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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-8900</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>integrate

multiculturalism

round and round the mulberry bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>integrate</p>
<p>multiculturalism</p>
<p>round and round the mulberry bush.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-8899</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes interestingly a lot of arabs dont actually think of themselves as &#039;asians&#039; - there&#039;s an idea floating about in the middle east that &#039;asians&#039; are the &#039;rest of them over that way further east&#039; cos we&#039;re closer to the &#039;west&#039; and paler-skinned so we&#039;re practically white. 

{asia = a continent with many countries and many people} really..no&gt;!

i do find it amusing how everyone likes to shit on someone &#039;below&#039; them and then complain about racism or some other -ism that affects them. like   in the indian sub-continent people complain about the &#039;whites&#039; and then go on about how their neighbours daughter is so &#039;kalo&#039;/( black) they&#039;ll never find a husband.

humans are such hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes interestingly a lot of arabs dont actually think of themselves as &#8216;asians&#8217; &#8211; there&#8217;s an idea floating about in the middle east that &#8216;asians&#8217; are the &#8216;rest of them over that way further east&#8217; cos we&#8217;re closer to the &#8216;west&#8217; and paler-skinned so we&#8217;re practically white. </p>
<p>{asia = a continent with many countries and many people} really..no&gt;!</p>
<p>i do find it amusing how everyone likes to shit on someone &#8216;below&#8217; them and then complain about racism or some other -ism that affects them. like   in the indian sub-continent people complain about the &#8216;whites&#8217; and then go on about how their neighbours daughter is so &#8216;kalo&#8217;/( black) they&#8217;ll never find a husband.</p>
<p>humans are such hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Sajn</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7110</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Here in the UK, the term “Asian” is used to refer only to people whose ethnicity originates from the Indian subcontinent, ie. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Nepal. It’s the British equivalent of the American term “South Asian”.

The Australian commenter was aware of this fact, as indicated by her subsequent apology. &quot;

Jai I understand that. What I objected to was your classification of Lebanese to be non-Asians. I would expect you to know that they are as Asian as we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Here in the UK, the term “Asian” is used to refer only to people whose ethnicity originates from the Indian subcontinent, ie. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Nepal. It’s the British equivalent of the American term “South Asian”.</p>
<p>The Australian commenter was aware of this fact, as indicated by her subsequent apology. &#8221;</p>
<p>Jai I understand that. What I objected to was your classification of Lebanese to be non-Asians. I would expect you to know that they are as Asian as we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7037</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me thinks &quot;English/White slut&quot; character is just nother piece of Bikhair&#039;s psychofancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me thinks &#8220;English/White slut&#8221; character is just nother piece of Bikhair&#8217;s psychofancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7035</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raz: you&#039;re so right. If Mount Leb is indeed Lebanese, I&#039;m Sir Les Paterson impersonating Peter Sellers impersonating an Indian doctor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raz: you&#8217;re so right. If Mount Leb is indeed Lebanese, I&#8217;m Sir Les Paterson impersonating Peter Sellers impersonating an Indian doctor.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7034</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vikrant et al. Apology accepted apart for the bit about apologising for Jihadis demonising others. Don&#039;t do that, in any case, see my post (102) for clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vikrant et al. Apology accepted apart for the bit about apologising for Jihadis demonising others. Don&#8217;t do that, in any case, see my post (102) for clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: raz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7033</link>
		<dc:creator>raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Originally posted by Mount Lebanon:

&quot;The ME types walk up to the kids and call the young girls ‘tarts’&quot;

LOL Aren&#039;t you, &#039;supposedly&#039; a Christian Arab, a &#039;ME type&#039; yourself?! If you&#039;re going to impersonate someone, at least try and make it look authentic :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Originally posted by Mount Lebanon:</p>
<p>&#8220;The ME types walk up to the kids and call the young girls ‘tarts’&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL Aren&#8217;t you, &#8217;supposedly&#8217; a Christian Arab, a &#8216;ME type&#8217; yourself?! If you&#8217;re going to impersonate someone, at least try and make it look authentic <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Hack,Siddharth et al. i do apologise for getting a  bit carried away with Bikhair. 

BTW isnt it high time you stop calling people who dont suscribe your apologising-for-jehadis-demonising-others brand of thinking as ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Hack,Siddharth et al. i do apologise for getting a  bit carried away with Bikhair. </p>
<p>BTW isnt it high time you stop calling people who dont suscribe your apologising-for-jehadis-demonising-others brand of thinking as ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Mount Lebanon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mount Lebanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al-Hack,

I&#039;m Lebanese(Catholic Maronite) your post is full of typical Muslim whinging about being victimized.  I Immigrated to Australia a number of years ago.  There is an anti-Muslim animus here but Muslims have(as in my native country) have not been the best  ambassadors of their faith.   Below is a little potted history of what has been happening on some beaches around Sydney.

This problem has been brewing for a number of years. A day at the beach which was once something to look forward to is now an unpleasant experience. This is how Muslim types skate around the law when they go to the beach:

They&#039;ll deliberately kick a soccer ball at a mother and young child. If the ball strikes the child or mother they just smile. If the woman says anything she has three in-your-face Muslim types calling her a slut or whore and telling her to &#039;get off our beach&#039;. If a male goes to her aid the Muslim use the mobile phone and suddenly you&#039;re surrounded by about 10 - 15 Muslims who want to belt an Aussie. These Muslim types walk behind teenage girls and call them sluts or whores and say &#039;how would you like a 10 inch banana&#039;. Other stuff they do is surround a couple of teenage girls sunbathing and jump on them. We have a movement on the beach known as Nippers which is to teach young kids (around 10 years of age) how to enjoy the beach and they are organised into teams and stuff like that (think little athletics). The ME types walk up to the kids and call the young girls &#039;tarts&#039;. As I said a day at the beach is nothing but a hassle at certain beaches.

Our police force hierarchy has been politicised by our politicians and made impuissant by a pommie commissioner we had a few years back who promoted &#039;yes men&#039; and got rid of a lot of good old fashioned cops. Believe it or not we had two female officers on patrol at Cronulla about 3 months ago. Can you imagine 20 Muslims itching to bash a cop being scared of two female officers? 

Our premier (something like a yank governor) Morris Iemma keeps talking about the law breakers facing the full force of the law. Once in court they get things like conferencing (for young offenders 14 - 15 -16 year-olds) or 120 hours community service by our limp wristed magistrates. I can almost smell the brown stuff running down the leg of a law breaker just thinking about it. 120 of community service - how will I cope?

A couple of nights ago (Monday 12th from about 9pm) was  a busy one for cops. Muslims came streaming out of the Lakemba mosque chanting god is great. Then they &#039;visited&#039; some suburbs and smashed parked cars with baseball bats and steel bars etc.

Muslim Arabs(Christian Arabs have intergrated quite well in Australia, as they have elsewhere in the West) have been urged via text messaging to turn up at Cronulla this Sunday 18th for a confrontation.

How can we ever thank our politicians enough for bringing this mob into our country? Do we pay our politicians enough? 

Multiculturalism is a huge success in Australia.   We have had enough, and you have the gall to call this Muslim bashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al-Hack,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Lebanese(Catholic Maronite) your post is full of typical Muslim whinging about being victimized.  I Immigrated to Australia a number of years ago.  There is an anti-Muslim animus here but Muslims have(as in my native country) have not been the best  ambassadors of their faith.   Below is a little potted history of what has been happening on some beaches around Sydney.</p>
<p>This problem has been brewing for a number of years. A day at the beach which was once something to look forward to is now an unpleasant experience. This is how Muslim types skate around the law when they go to the beach:</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll deliberately kick a soccer ball at a mother and young child. If the ball strikes the child or mother they just smile. If the woman says anything she has three in-your-face Muslim types calling her a slut or whore and telling her to &#8216;get off our beach&#8217;. If a male goes to her aid the Muslim use the mobile phone and suddenly you&#8217;re surrounded by about 10 &#8211; 15 Muslims who want to belt an Aussie. These Muslim types walk behind teenage girls and call them sluts or whores and say &#8216;how would you like a 10 inch banana&#8217;. Other stuff they do is surround a couple of teenage girls sunbathing and jump on them. We have a movement on the beach known as Nippers which is to teach young kids (around 10 years of age) how to enjoy the beach and they are organised into teams and stuff like that (think little athletics). The ME types walk up to the kids and call the young girls &#8216;tarts&#8217;. As I said a day at the beach is nothing but a hassle at certain beaches.</p>
<p>Our police force hierarchy has been politicised by our politicians and made impuissant by a pommie commissioner we had a few years back who promoted &#8216;yes men&#8217; and got rid of a lot of good old fashioned cops. Believe it or not we had two female officers on patrol at Cronulla about 3 months ago. Can you imagine 20 Muslims itching to bash a cop being scared of two female officers? </p>
<p>Our premier (something like a yank governor) Morris Iemma keeps talking about the law breakers facing the full force of the law. Once in court they get things like conferencing (for young offenders 14 &#8211; 15 -16 year-olds) or 120 hours community service by our limp wristed magistrates. I can almost smell the brown stuff running down the leg of a law breaker just thinking about it. 120 of community service &#8211; how will I cope?</p>
<p>A couple of nights ago (Monday 12th from about 9pm) was  a busy one for cops. Muslims came streaming out of the Lakemba mosque chanting god is great. Then they &#8216;visited&#8217; some suburbs and smashed parked cars with baseball bats and steel bars etc.</p>
<p>Muslim Arabs(Christian Arabs have intergrated quite well in Australia, as they have elsewhere in the West) have been urged via text messaging to turn up at Cronulla this Sunday 18th for a confrontation.</p>
<p>How can we ever thank our politicians enough for bringing this mob into our country? Do we pay our politicians enough? </p>
<p>Multiculturalism is a huge success in Australia.   We have had enough, and you have the gall to call this Muslim bashing.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7018</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,

I agree with much of what you have said. I agree that it is a reaction to violent overbearing young men, who want to be seen as their own &#039;police&#039;. Who appear to be, in fact, a drug gang.

What I am unhappy about is the inability of the wider community to target their aggression properly. It would be entirely reasonable for folk to be offended by the gangsters and try to deal with that. What is not reasonable, but seems to be human nature, is to attack anyone you might think comes from their ethnic group. That is the pish mob psychology that leads to, or might indeed be, racism.

A crook is a crook, no matter what community they come from. It seems to me that the failur of the police to deal with this issue before it got out of hand is well worth investigating. I guess we can assume that that won&#039;t happen then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>I agree with much of what you have said. I agree that it is a reaction to violent overbearing young men, who want to be seen as their own &#8216;police&#8217;. Who appear to be, in fact, a drug gang.</p>
<p>What I am unhappy about is the inability of the wider community to target their aggression properly. It would be entirely reasonable for folk to be offended by the gangsters and try to deal with that. What is not reasonable, but seems to be human nature, is to attack anyone you might think comes from their ethnic group. That is the pish mob psychology that leads to, or might indeed be, racism.</p>
<p>A crook is a crook, no matter what community they come from. It seems to me that the failur of the police to deal with this issue before it got out of hand is well worth investigating. I guess we can assume that that won&#8217;t happen then?</p>
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		<title>By: jamal</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7014</link>
		<dc:creator>jamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don... that is true.  Conflict is apparantly the human condition, which is evidently the norm in/between most societies.  Peace is the exception.

Al Hack asked &quot;who is the victim?&quot;.  The victims are all those on either side that did not take part in the conflict, but will suffer from the fallout/aftermath for the next few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8230; that is true.  Conflict is apparantly the human condition, which is evidently the norm in/between most societies.  Peace is the exception.</p>
<p>Al Hack asked &#8220;who is the victim?&#8221;.  The victims are all those on either side that did not take part in the conflict, but will suffer from the fallout/aftermath for the next few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7012</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanvir,

In a perfect world. Trouble with human beings is that if they ever found a perfect world they would comprehensively fuck it up in a single generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanvir,</p>
<p>In a perfect world. Trouble with human beings is that if they ever found a perfect world they would comprehensively fuck it up in a single generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7011</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to think about the parallels between the Birmingham riot and the Cronulla riot, it&#039;s interesting to note that whilst the violence in the west midlands was stoked by pirate radio DJs, the violence in Cronulla was stoked by a perfectly legitimate (although a complete tosser) DJ called Alan Jones. 

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/alan-jones-i-led-this-charge/2005/12/12/1134236003153.html

For most right thinking aussies, this guy is a nutcase, and a criminally reprehensible one at that. But there is a significant minority of people in Australia who lap his crap right up. Not to excuse the violent yobs on either side, (and sorry to go off on a bit of a tangent)  but the media in Australia for the most part is weak, reprehensible, and sometimes even inflammatory and racist. 

For example - http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1442946.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to think about the parallels between the Birmingham riot and the Cronulla riot, it&#8217;s interesting to note that whilst the violence in the west midlands was stoked by pirate radio DJs, the violence in Cronulla was stoked by a perfectly legitimate (although a complete tosser) DJ called Alan Jones. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/alan-jones-i-led-this-charge/2005/12/12/1134236003153.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/alan-jones-i-led-this-charge/2005/12/12/1134236003153.html</a></p>
<p>For most right thinking aussies, this guy is a nutcase, and a criminally reprehensible one at that. But there is a significant minority of people in Australia who lap his crap right up. Not to excuse the violent yobs on either side, (and sorry to go off on a bit of a tangent)  but the media in Australia for the most part is weak, reprehensible, and sometimes even inflammatory and racist. </p>
<p>For example &#8211; <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1442946.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1442946.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tanvir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7010</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanvir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these two immigrant communities: white &#039;aussies&#039; and lebanese should learn to live together, and the aussie protests are just ironic and sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these two immigrant communities: white &#8216;aussies&#8217; and lebanese should learn to live together, and the aussie protests are just ironic and sad</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I think its time Rohin and I start bossing people around here.&#039;  
I suspect that that is your own personal power trip rather than Rohin&#039;s.


&#039;I will delete your ass because I have that power.&#039;

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/903959/cartman_cop.jpg

Having said that, fair point about Bikhair; she can be disturbingly flirtatious.

I can&#039;t agree with your comments  that characterise posters (presumably) here and on HP as muslim bashers. Apart from the odd inevitable nutter, could you point some out?

I don&#039;t see how  &#039;the fact that most Lebanese in Aussieland are Christian and that plenty of other Muslim minorities in the country and settling in just fine.&#039; supports your position. As far as I can see the comments you so vehemently oppose are making the point that this was a localised response (reprehensible as it may be, yadda yadda) to a specific, ethnically and culturally cohesive group of violent thugs who have terrorised white, asian, polynesian and lebanese christian people for an extended period with no apparent police response. Naturally the Romper Stomper scumbags rode this particular wave, but the wider group involved have distanced themselves from that and do seem to be appalled at the undoubted racist element in the events (see Mirax #38).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I think its time Rohin and I start bossing people around here.&#8217;<br />
I suspect that that is your own personal power trip rather than Rohin&#8217;s.</p>
<p>&#8216;I will delete your ass because I have that power.&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/903959/cartman_cop.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/903959/cartman_cop.jpg</a></p>
<p>Having said that, fair point about Bikhair; she can be disturbingly flirtatious.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t agree with your comments  that characterise posters (presumably) here and on HP as muslim bashers. Apart from the odd inevitable nutter, could you point some out?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how  &#8216;the fact that most Lebanese in Aussieland are Christian and that plenty of other Muslim minorities in the country and settling in just fine.&#8217; supports your position. As far as I can see the comments you so vehemently oppose are making the point that this was a localised response (reprehensible as it may be, yadda yadda) to a specific, ethnically and culturally cohesive group of violent thugs who have terrorised white, asian, polynesian and lebanese christian people for an extended period with no apparent police response. Naturally the Romper Stomper scumbags rode this particular wave, but the wider group involved have distanced themselves from that and do seem to be appalled at the undoubted racist element in the events (see Mirax #38).</p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
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		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siddarth I don&#039;t really get what angle your aiming at me from, but yes that would be perfectly acceptable in my book! I was coming from the angle that some of you really feel personally affected by these neo-nazi thugs...  I just wish there were more white people who were just as violently against racism. Yes I&#039;m a bit twisted I know...

Al-Hack your constant line that all the 5,000 are white racists and with no basis whatsoever for actual grievance is getting rather tiresome. 

How do you feel when I condemn ALL of those Muslims demonstating or rioting in Paris or Birmingham as intolerant scum? Did some of them at least not have legitimate grievances? And yes people died at the hand of Muslims in said instances, but does that detract the truth from the rest of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siddarth I don&#8217;t really get what angle your aiming at me from, but yes that would be perfectly acceptable in my book! I was coming from the angle that some of you really feel personally affected by these neo-nazi thugs&#8230;  I just wish there were more white people who were just as violently against racism. Yes I&#8217;m a bit twisted I know&#8230;</p>
<p>Al-Hack your constant line that all the 5,000 are white racists and with no basis whatsoever for actual grievance is getting rather tiresome. </p>
<p>How do you feel when I condemn ALL of those Muslims demonstating or rioting in Paris or Birmingham as intolerant scum? Did some of them at least not have legitimate grievances? And yes people died at the hand of Muslims in said instances, but does that detract the truth from the rest of them?</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7007</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>j0nz:

&lt;i&gt; just wish some gang of white people came in and kicked the shit out of them for what they did. I like a bit of balance, I do. &lt;/i&gt;

interesting that you think that would help to add &quot;a bit of balance&quot;. What if a gang of big strapping Punjabi guys  kicked the shit out of them for what they did. Would you think that equally balanced? Or would precipitate more of your, er, logic, as per (107)?

love 
s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>j0nz:</p>
<p><i> just wish some gang of white people came in and kicked the shit out of them for what they did. I like a bit of balance, I do. </i></p>
<p>interesting that you think that would help to add &#8220;a bit of balance&#8221;. What if a gang of big strapping Punjabi guys  kicked the shit out of them for what they did. Would you think that equally balanced? Or would precipitate more of your, er, logic, as per (107)?</p>
<p>love<br />
s</p>
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		<title>By: Al-Hack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al-Hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its time Rohin and I start bossing people around here.

Bikhair and Vikrant - tweedledee and tweedledum - can both of you ignorants SHUT THE FUCK UP. I will delete your ass because I have that power. Neither of you idiots contribute much to this debate, specially you Bikhair - run along before I tell your husband that his burqa wearing woman is secretly chatting up men over the internet. 

jonz tell me something. If there were 4,500 well meaning Aussies on that beach, and only about 500 neo nazis, then why were they singing, or allowed to sing racist chants and go running and beat up any innocent non-white? I mean surely your well meaning mates might have the good sense to stop it because they clearly outnumbered the neo-nazis?

That discussion on HP Sauce is full of whinny little pansies who don&#039;t want to accept that Australians can be racist bastards too. Everything is blamed on Muslim non-integration. Forget the fact that most Lebanese in Aussieland are Christian and that plenty of other Muslim minorities in the country and settling in just fine.

Oh no, we don&#039;t wouldn&#039;t want to let facts get in the way of a bit of Muslim bashing now would we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its time Rohin and I start bossing people around here.</p>
<p>Bikhair and Vikrant &#8211; tweedledee and tweedledum &#8211; can both of you ignorants SHUT THE FUCK UP. I will delete your ass because I have that power. Neither of you idiots contribute much to this debate, specially you Bikhair &#8211; run along before I tell your husband that his burqa wearing woman is secretly chatting up men over the internet. </p>
<p>jonz tell me something. If there were 4,500 well meaning Aussies on that beach, and only about 500 neo nazis, then why were they singing, or allowed to sing racist chants and go running and beat up any innocent non-white? I mean surely your well meaning mates might have the good sense to stop it because they clearly outnumbered the neo-nazis?</p>
<p>That discussion on HP Sauce is full of whinny little pansies who don&#8217;t want to accept that Australians can be racist bastards too. Everything is blamed on Muslim non-integration. Forget the fact that most Lebanese in Aussieland are Christian and that plenty of other Muslim minorities in the country and settling in just fine.</p>
<p>Oh no, we don&#8217;t wouldn&#8217;t want to let facts get in the way of a bit of Muslim bashing now would we?</p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/207/comment-page-3#comment-7005</link>
		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jai
I am very sorry to hear that. I just wish some gang of white people came in and kicked the shit out of them for what they did. I like a bit of balance, I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jai<br />
I am very sorry to hear that. I just wish some gang of white people came in and kicked the shit out of them for what they did. I like a bit of balance, I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Bikhair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bikhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia,

&quot;so bikhair - you’re not asian? Really which continent are you from then? Asia’s a big continent you know.&quot;

No I am not an Asian of any persuasion,nor amd I an Arab. I am an American, born in North America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonia,</p>
<p>&#8220;so bikhair &#8211; you’re not asian? Really which continent are you from then? Asia’s a big continent you know.&#8221;</p>
<p>No I am not an Asian of any persuasion,nor amd I an Arab. I am an American, born in North America.</p>
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