Rupees for questions, blogger shtyle


by Rohin
13th December, 2005 at 1:21 pm    

Sunny has chosen a great time to piss jet off as I’m working silly hours (hint hint other writers!) I briefly wanted to mention some hilarity in the Brown Blogosphere. I realise some of the gags may be a bit too obscure for those who aren’t followers of the main desi blogs, but it’s pretty amusing nevertheless.

A joint sting operation (great phrase) set by CobraPost and Aaj Tak has ensnared eleven Indian MPs. They were bribed by a phantom group, comprised of Indian journos-cum-bloggers. I shan’t write too much as it’s a bit off beat for most of our readers, but the reason I bring it to your attention is one of the questions posed, which cracked me right up:

“Is it true that while NRI firms such as India Uncut of USA, Sepia Mutiny of Britain and AnarCap Lib of Netherlands have been allowed to invest in Indian SSIs, the reputed German investment firm Desipundit has been denied permission? If so, the reasons thereof? Is the Union Government of India planning to make automatic the long procedure of permission for SSIs to import new technologies such as Trackbacks, Pingbacks, Blogrolls, Splogs and Hitcounters?” [Link]

Whilst you may not recognise the ‘NRI firms’ (all blogging colleagues of PP), the thought of an Indian MP asking about importing pingbacks and blogrolls is hilarious! Neil Hamilton never made me laugh this much.

And Anna, Sepia Mutiny’s resident looker, takes the blame for her American site being labelled British:

it’s my fault…all my “s/z” and “o/ou” substitutions…they thought we were even closer to pickled politics than we are. ;)

Lastly – following up on our Imperial College piece, the uni have cracked under surprisingly-vocal-for-Imperial student pressure and caved on the hoodie/face cover ban. I wasn’t challenged once when I wore a hoodie there, although I never launched my main plan of sporting a bulky rucksack and beard. What’s odd is that they’ve also recanted their call for ID cards to be shown. What the hell? How is that unreasonable?


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  1. DesiPundit » Operation Duryodhana: Why Was Desipundit Denied Permission To Invest In SSIs?

    [...] According to the story by Aniruddha Bahal in Cobrapost, one question that BJP MP Chandra Pratap Singh asked on behalf of ‘NISMA’ was: Is it true that while NRI firms such as India Uncut of USA, Sepia Mutiny of Britain and AnarCap Lib of Netherlands have been allowed to invest in Indian SSIs, the reputed German investment firm Desipundit has been denied permission? If so, the reasons thereof? Is the Union Government of India planning to make automatic the long procedure of permission for SSIs to import new technologies such as Trackbacks, Pingbacks, Blogrolls, Splogs and Hitcounters? [link] This is hilarious! Could this question have something to do with a blogger who works at Cobrapost? Updates: This issue is being discussed all over the blogosphere, and quite a few people are talking about it. Rashmi has an insightful post. There has been a lot of discussion going on, over at Sepia Mutiny. Mutineers are mulling over the cultural implications of SM being labelled British (Not to mention, some veiled speculations of an alleged insidious alliance between the two Vijs, Manish and Shivam – an idea coming across that they were labelled British on purpose!!). Amit discusses the issue, in more detail and Mridula connecting OpDur with IIT-Kan. Both Instapundit and AsiaPundit have spoken. Others to have talked about it: PickledPolitics, BD, Rajeev Roy [More will be added] [...]




  1. jamal — on 13th December, 2005 at 2:47 pm  

    I cdould actually imagine that question being asked.. lol

    On a side note, you may be intrested in publishing my peice on the Sydney Race Riots, theres been 2 days of it so far, although its not been reported too much.

  2. Jai Singh — on 13th December, 2005 at 3:34 pm  

    Jamal,

    There’s currently a huge on-going debate about the Sydney riots on the Sepia Mutiny site; you may want to consider posting your link there too.

    http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/002663.html#comments

  3. sonia — on 13th December, 2005 at 3:39 pm  

    imperial college caves in – ah well the hoodie thing was a bit unrealistic eh!

  4. sonia — on 13th December, 2005 at 3:44 pm  

    the sting thing was a brilliant idea..fab!

    now i do think the s/z thing is getting out of hand, i must stick a post about it on my blog. im quite tired of people imagining it’s only american – technically both forms are perfectly acceptable in British English. It’s only since americans decided they’d stick to the z and the silly Microsoft spellchecker that ppl imagine its not British English – very recent devt.I prefer using my z’s and im constantly getting told its American.

    right im off to do my research and have the full backing of the OED behind me.

  5. Jay Singh — on 13th December, 2005 at 3:49 pm  

    There is a great article in the Times today about how the government is riding the Islamist tiger and feeding those sinister and arrogant so called moderates who effectively use suicide bombing to advance their Islamist agenda in British society – in all seriousness, this is a very important article that should be read by everyone, especially those Islamists who grace this site – if you ever had the feeling that the ‘moderates’ who appeared on your TV screen after 7/7 and so on did not seem so moderate and speak with forked tongue but you just werent quite able to put your finger on why that is – check out this comment piece and see:

    ++++++++++

    Islamist violence has thus provided a wonderful, unexpected opportunity for these moderates to demand more power and money from the State. This will leave them and their favoured co-religionists as the main intermediaries between the state and the Muslim community.

    The events of 7/7 appear, in their view, to be as much the fault of the Government as the bombers themselves: there is a strong flavour of “it woz Iraq and deprivation and unemployment and Islamophobia wot made ’em do it, guv”. To prevent a repeat, they seem to imply, there should effectively be a Muslim veto over counter-terrorist legislation and foreign policy.

    Their long-term solution for the ills of society? More of their kind of political Islam. More Islam in the national curriculum, including GCSEs in Islamic studies; more Islamist rapid rebuttal units — that is, propaganda. And what are two of the most important ways of empowering Muslim women? Give them more Islamic education and Arabic lessons. Since a large majority of them are South Asian, the only reason they would need Arabic is for more Koranic instruction. As such, the report endorses a key aim of some radical elements — the “Arabisation” of British Muslims.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-1922518,00.html

  6. Vikrant — on 13th December, 2005 at 3:51 pm  

    import new technologies such as Trackbacks, Pingbacks, Blogrolls, Splogs and Hitcounters?”

    Rofl… man it cant get dumber than this.

  7. jamal — on 13th December, 2005 at 5:55 pm  

    Jay, you right, that debate is huge.

  8. Fe'reeha — on 13th December, 2005 at 7:34 pm  

    OK! Now slightly off topic. But I completely bought Rohin’s argument that face contact is important between a doctor and a patient, hence viels are not practical and should be banned.

    Yet, I had an appointmnet with a doctor, and,…well, I do not know how to explain myself. The thing is the doc was not in viel, she was actually wearing a short skirt and tight blouse, but she had not even bothered to wash her face. Her hair was tangled, and she had warts and facial hair. I mean there was hair, long thick creepy hair actually coming out of warts, eeeeeew! And I am not kidding.
    Manicure was probably a concept alien to her, and her nails were rough, coarse and full of dirt and god knows what? I have no objection to her being the way she was, but if someone is examining me with those hands, I think I have every right to complain.
    (I can give the name and address of the doctor off line). The thing is I would rather have my doctor in viel if this is what I have to see. Should’nt there be a law on facial cleanliness etc for doctors?
    Seriously? Am I sounding rude? Or am I just making a sound and reasonable demand?

  9. Don — on 13th December, 2005 at 8:18 pm  

    Fe’reeha,

    Are you sure she was a doctor and not Snowwhite’s stepmum? Didn’t offer you an apple?

  10. El Cid — on 13th December, 2005 at 10:16 pm  

    Fe’reeha,
    Are you suggesting that only ugly women should wear the full veil? Sounds like you’re giving the Koran a more modern flavour — i.e. bringing it foward to the 1970s. Still, I guess that’s progress!

  11. Fe'reeha — on 14th December, 2005 at 1:29 am  

    I was not suggeting anything. Only saying that for me, personally, I would rather have a neat and tidy vieled doctor, rather than an ungroomed uncovered one.
    The doctor was not ugly, she was just negligent of herself.
    There is a difference!

  12. donraja — on 14th December, 2005 at 2:54 am  

    Although I’m not an avid follower of indian politics, when I read this I had to let out a mild chuckle to myself. And indians are supposed to be the clever ones…. tut tut

  13. Rohin — on 14th December, 2005 at 2:13 pm  

    Fe’reeha, as you said you weren’t fussy about her looks, but it was her dirty hands that bothered you. In hospitals we have posters for patients everywhere saying:

    Expect to see us washing our hands before every patient, but if you don’t think we’ve done it – IT’S OK TO ASK.

    So don’t be afraid to speak up! I don’t mind patients telling me to wash my hands.

  14. El Cid — on 14th December, 2005 at 2:22 pm  

    Rohin, the post mentions the hands as an afterthought, c’mon!! But yes Dr, we should all clean our hands as much as poss.

  15. Mirax — on 14th December, 2005 at 2:27 pm  

    You sound extremely childish Fe’reeha. Doctors aren’t there to satisfy your aesthetic requirements! Facial hair and warts and untidy hair and you’d prefer the burka? what kind of thinking is that?

    I have never encountered a doctor with dirt encrusted finger nails (you seem to be exaggerating) and if I ever did, I would make damn sure that she cleaned up instead of wishing that she’d just simply hide it all away from view.

    Lack of grooming is a separate issue from veiling and the two are not mutually exclusive btw.

  16. Fe'reeha — on 14th December, 2005 at 6:48 pm  

    You sound extremely childish Fe’reeha. Doctors aren’t there to satisfy your aesthetic requirements! Facial hair and warts and untidy hair and you’d prefer the burka? what kind of thinking is that?

    Is there a competition between a burka and facial warts? I would still rather vote for the burka. What I can’t see, probably won’t hurt as much as what I can.
    And is a clean hair free face coming under aesthetic sense now? I thought it was plain requirement of a civilised way of life, isn’t it?
    And I am not exaggerating! Why will I do it?

    Thanks Rohin, for telling me about the poser. But seriously do you think we can actually ask a doctor to wash their hands and cut their nails without asking them? Usually I have never come across a doctor who played with my sense of cleanliness, it was an odd experience, but the hair did disturb me more than the hands.

  17. Rohin — on 14th December, 2005 at 7:01 pm  

    Fe’reeha, you’re going a bit bonkers here!

    What if she had an endocrine condition that meant she had facial hair? It happens. Should she be penalised?

    What if she hit every branch on the ugly tree and had Quasimodo and Anne Widdecombe for parents? It’s not her fault. Warts aren’t necessarily a result of dirt.

    Dirty hands – complain, don’t be afraid. Ugly doctor – well, you can’t all be treated by me (teehee!) so you’ll have to deal with it. Is your solution covering up people when they’re ugly? Does that say something about covered up Muslim women? Are they the real uggos?!

    Ah I’m just pulling your leg, but can’t say you don’t deserve it! Irrespective…I want to meet this doctor.

  18. Al-Hack — on 14th December, 2005 at 7:08 pm  

    Stop being so PC guys. I’d want my damn doctor to atleast practice what they preach about hygeine!

  19. Mirax — on 14th December, 2005 at 7:15 pm  

    FWIW, I find the burka MUCH, MUCH more threatening than some physical blemishes and will never allow anyone stupid enough to envelope themselves in one to treat or offer me any kind of important advice.

  20. Mirax — on 14th December, 2005 at 7:18 pm  

    “want my damn doctor to atleast practice what they preach about hygeine! ”

    Fair enough. But as Rohin points out, that is easily achieved by either talking to the doctor directly or by the means of a complaint to the right authorities. But this is not about hygiene, I suspect, just one person’s intolerance.

  21. Fe'reeha — on 14th December, 2005 at 8:00 pm  

    It’s strange how you can just “assume” that I am the one being intolerant.
    I did not even let the doctor feel that I was disturbed by her hair. And iot is precisely for this reason that I am not writing her name here or the name of the surgery.

    In fact I let her do her work and did not even say one single unpleasant word. I think that comes in the bracket of being tolerant.
    All I am saying is the way I could keep my personal fears and bias towards facial hair and dirty nails hidden while I was in my doc’s chambers, why can’t the others do the same?
    As Rohin has said that the hair could be the result of harmonal disturbance, maybe a burka clad woman has some pschological reasons to cover up the way she wants to. Why is that argument not acceptable when it comes to burka.
    I cannot believe I am fighting the case of a burka. There has to be a start for everything.

  22. Rohin — on 14th December, 2005 at 8:30 pm  

    I’m a bit uncomfortable with this argument, as I don’t think I know what I’m arguing about.

    Fe’reeha, if a doctor is dirty and you are offended by their personal hygiene, then they are breaking the standards set for a doctor. You have a right to complain, I don’t actually think sitting stoically and keeping “my personal fears and bias towards facial hair and dirty nails hidden while I was in my doc’s chambers” is sensible. In fact, it’s the opposite of what you should do.

    Thus comparing it to someone being required to keep quiet about a doctor who obscures their face is meaningless. If someone feels uncomfortable with a doctor whose face is covered, they can’t ask them to take it off – they’re offended their religious sensibilities and SHOCK HORROR that’s the worst crime in the world tauba tauba tauba. Asking someone to wash is not illegal, telling someone they should change their religious practices is now ILLEGAL.

    There is NO case for the burqa Fe’reeha. I never thought you would be on this side of the fence having read much of your writing in the past. You’re now saying that being ugly is a reason to cover up? What?! You’re advocating women with low self esteem due to no fault of their own covering themselves up to avoid society? Instead why not criticise society or the fashion world for making them feel ugly. A woman who is so weak she has to cover her face for the reason of LOOKS needs counselling, not a burqa.

    I think it’s pretty clear neither I nor Mirax are Islamophobes, from all we’ve said on this site. But we both feel similarly – it’s idiotic. It’s not at all a requirement of the religion, it’s a vehicle for female oppression and it’s an offence to every human being. It’s a deliberate attempt to distance oneself from society at large and it’s an instant wall of mistrust. It’s also a security risk. How do you KNOW the person treating you is a doctor, you can’t compare them to their ID card can you?

  23. Fe'reeha — on 14th December, 2005 at 9:12 pm  

    OK! I am convinved. You are right! A doctor needs to show the face, and since it is nowhere even written in Quran that face needs to be covered than the argument does not even stand.
    But coming back to facial hair. If I say to my doctor that I need her to tweaze them out, won’t she be offended?
    The only reason I did not say anything to her was that I thought I would sound rude.
    I think I have just realised I am a bit phobic towards facial hair and which could be one reason why I write so much against Imams (ok, that was just a joke)

  24. Fe'reeha — on 14th December, 2005 at 9:18 pm  

    By the way, I never implied that an ugly person should hide behind a viel. My stance is quite clear on this issue.
    Forcing on or off viels is both evil. It should always come out of choice. And by choice I mean, the woman’s choice, not the government’s, nor the society’s.

  25. Mirax — on 14th December, 2005 at 9:18 pm  

    ‘The only reason I did not say anything to her was that I thought I would sound rude.’

    Facial hair or warts, yes inexcusably rude. Because doctors’ looks have NO BEARING on their treatment of patients.

    Dirty nails, not at all. Because this is a health issue and affects you , the patient.
    Quite simple really.

  26. Rohin — on 14th December, 2005 at 9:22 pm  

    I dunno, I know lots of Asian girls with too much facial hair. I desperately want to tell them to get rid of their ‘tache and ‘burns but I’ve already made too many girls cry by being rude (I wish that was a lie). Perhaps you can try it out on this doctor and see what the reaction is, let me know – I think I could be doing a public service. Although I still think I’d put DEODORANT at the top of the list. I was out in Hounslow today and MY GOD two shop assistants stank to high heaven. Then yesterday I was walking behind a group and the waft of B.O. was intolerable.

    These people were all GIRLS by the way. Boys – no problem, tell them straight. Girls – I can’t tell them they stink, can I? It’s down to you Fe’reeha, as a girl. If you don’t tell stinky hairy women to sort their act out (look more like THIS) then we’re all doomed.

    Now enough of this banter, it’s gone mindless. I’ve shaken burqas out of you (and not the other way round, mind you) and that’s the end of it!

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