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    Cameron should thank Davis


    by Rumbold
    13th June, 2008 at 11:40 am    

    In the wake of David Davis’ honourable resignation, many commentators are suggesting that this will somehow hurt the Conservative party, as it takes away attention from the decline of Gordon Brown and the good showing of the Conservatives in the opinion polls. It is likely to do the opposite in fact. The Conservatives, despite leading in the polls, have looked shaky recently. Their utter lack of policies on most issues is becoming an increasing embarrassment, while their refusal to make any concrete promises on the 10p tax band or fuel duty has just confirmed that they don’t really have any ideas, or at least ones which they are willing to share with us. The financial scandals surrounding Caroline Spellman and the MEPs have reinforced the public view that politicians are all as bad as each other. David Cameron comes across as a smooth-taking PR executive.

    Enter David Davis. A former SAS reservist, he not only resigned on a matter of principle, but went against the opinion polls, which suggested public support for the 42 day limit. Thus in one stroke the Conservatives can point to a principled Tory grandee, who also has concrete proposals on this issue. David Cameron should be thanking his lucky stars.


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    1. zaffer — on 13th June, 2008 at 12:01 pm  

      I don’t think you can look shakey but maintain a commanding lead in the polls. Take a look at their shadow cabinet, they look fierce- a cabinet ready for government. David Cameron has always looked like a smooth talking PR executive ( chiefly because he is one) but if anything has shown more conviction ( eg. forcing Brown’s hand in October 2007) over the last couple of years.

    2. marvin — on 13th June, 2008 at 12:33 pm  

      Can somebody correct the headline it feels like a LOL Catz headline

    3. Avi Cohen — on 13th June, 2008 at 12:34 pm  

      Well Murdoch is planning to finance a campaign by Kelvin McKenzie to stand against David Davis.

      It is amazing that a Aussie/Yank can push the country what ever way he wants. This is the man who keeps talking about British values whilst actually being an American and noone questions where his interests lie.

      McKenzie believes that even 420 days detention is acceptable:
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7452264.stm

      Melanie Phillips is apparently happy for Murdoch to steer the country even though he isn’t a resident!

      It is time this Govt had the courage to face down this nasty newspaper man and his hysteria and scare mongering insteading of kissing his arse.

    4. schmoo — on 13th June, 2008 at 12:53 pm  

      Never trust a Tory - or ‘liberal’ idiots who support them.

    5. Bishop Hill — on 13th June, 2008 at 1:27 pm  

      I think we’ve had enough party politics, thanks Schmoo.

    6. Leon — on 13th June, 2008 at 1:37 pm  

      If Cameron should thank Davis why isn’t he throwing the full Tory machine behind the by election?

      Why is Cameron’s public support so soft?

      Why are multiple quotes coming out from team Cameron about Davis being mad etc and them being fuming about all this?

    7. Kulvinder — on 13th June, 2008 at 1:53 pm  

      If Cameron should thank Davis why isn’t he throwing the full Tory machine behind the by election?

      Because it wasn’t the party line?

      I agree with Rumbold that most commentators (especially within Westminster village) have got it wrong. Theres really no public sense of a tory meltdown, a casual glance at the blogs as well as the bbc’s hys shows that DD’s stance has gone down incredibly well.

      The people aren’t stupid they know this is gesture politics, but on this issue they wanted a grand gesture. The Conservatives cannot lose out of this situtaion, but the reason they won’t throw the full party machine behind him is because it was HIS gesture it wasn’t something they asked for, and it has to be said he doesn’t exactly need a lot of party support to re-elect him.

      My guess is the various tory MPs will just turn up on their own backs to support him.

    8. MaidMarian — on 13th June, 2008 at 2:44 pm  

      Leon (6) - ‘Why is Cameron’s public support so soft?’

      I would hazard a guess that he, probably correctly, has identified that the charge of ‘soft on terror’ is not something he wants to be on the wrong end of and that it is something that could jump up and bite him at just about any time if he goes all out behind Davis’ stunt.

      His public support for Davis is soft because he can read polls as much as anyone else can.

      Just as worrying though is the way that Davis, who about 24 hours ago was a gay-hating card carrying hanger and flogger can suddenly become a talkboard liberties hero on the back of a vanity exercise.

      Principles? If he felt he was gong to lose this election I am quite certain his principles would have taken him in rather different directions!

    9. Kulvinder — on 13th June, 2008 at 3:10 pm  

      Just as worrying though is the way that Davis, who about 24 hours ago was a gay-hating card carrying hanger and flogger can suddenly become a talkboard liberties hero on the back of a vanity exercise.

      Oh i gave up worrying about such things when the egalitarian-right-on Labour party tubthumbingly supported an illegal war and has increasingly eroded our rights.

      By all means highlight the failings of David Davis, i hold no candle for some of his other opinions, but those he opposes have views that are just as reprehensible.

      I did not ask for but i was given a realpolitik choice; as such i choose the lesser of two evils at any given moment.

    10. Don — on 13th June, 2008 at 5:56 pm  

      It ain’t hard to be the lesser of two evils when the opposition is Kelvin McKenzie. But if this is the starter that opens up a real debate on erosion of liberties, then I guess fair enough.

    11. Avi Cohen — on 13th June, 2008 at 6:03 pm  

      Hey the UN just released a report saying there should be a referendum on keeping the Royals:

      http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080613/tuk-un-should-britain-scrap-royals-dba1618.html

      Surely they have better things to do!

    12. Don — on 13th June, 2008 at 8:08 pm  

      I’m guessing most people’s response to that UN tarradiddle is mocking laughter rather than the urge to out and burn stuff.

    13. Rumbold — on 13th June, 2008 at 8:40 pm  

      Don:

      “I’m guessing most people’s response to that UN tarradiddle is mocking laughter rather than the urge to out and burn stuff.”

      Speak for yourself. Windsor Zindabad!

    14. Gege — on 13th June, 2008 at 10:46 pm  

      I hope to God that DD wins.I wonder if there is any truth in the rumours of friction between DD and DC.

      By the way,why is there a low level of activity on PP? Sunny your team needs to post articles more frequently.

    15. Leon — on 13th June, 2008 at 11:28 pm  

      By the way,why is there a low level of activity on PP? Sunny your team needs to post articles more frequently.

      Eh? There’s normally a new post each day, just how much content do you want? And more importantly are you prepared to pay for it!? :D

    16. Darrell — on 14th June, 2008 at 7:40 am  

      If I was Cameron I would dearly love to throw Davis out of the Party and I think it is fair to say his shadow cabinet career and cabinet career is over unless his putsch attempt succeeds; there is nothing honourable about what he did. David Davis is fighting for the cause of David Davis and well…all those people around Con Home and the Telegraph who hate Cameron…

      People on the liberal left who support this man simply are not a)considering his position on other questions b) doing the math on the circumstances of his resignation…it simply doesnt add up if he is so concerned about 42 days he would resign the position he is best able to change that from and the fact that the Conservative Party are offering him no support for his ‘personal campaign’…if you want a really short lived task count how many times Cameron visits his constituency…none I bet

    17. Helen Wright — on 14th June, 2008 at 10:44 pm  

      It’s emabarassing when a man hides behind a skirt; but when the Prime Minister of Great Britain hides behind a Rupert Murdoch stooge, it’s downright shameful. How the hell do we get rid of him?

    18. Chris Stiles — on 16th June, 2008 at 9:53 am  

      ‘Why is Cameron’s public support so soft?’

      Why should his support be explicit? Tacit support plus a disawowal that DD is being ordered around presents nice contrast to the authoritarian - whipping-MPs into marching lockstep - Brown.

      Just as worrying though is the way that Davis, who about 24 hours ago was a gay-hating card carrying hanger and flogger can suddenly become a talkboard liberties hero on the back of a vanity exercise.

      Given his past support for Michael Brown it’s not entirely accurate to call him ‘Gay Hating’. Besides, the two sets of views Davis seems to hold are only unreconcilable if you view him as a Tory Whig. He might well be a paleo-conservative of the old school who believes that the state should be strong AND that people should be protected from the power of an overweening state.

    19. sonia — on 16th June, 2008 at 11:44 am  

      Of course the amusing thing is about all this is it just goes to show: if all politicians were ‘principled’ they would all resign.

      which is why so many of them claim that they are principled and that’s why they’re staying of course! to make that difference, don’t you know! Because if enough them stand up to the party whip…

      that’s what clare short said wasn’t it/

      i meant that’s why i don’t bother standing to be an MP - id have to resign every 2 days.

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