Comments on: MacShane outflanks the Conservatives

By: Praguetory

Praguetory — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:05:41 +0000

‘This could prove David Cameron’s toughest challenge yet.’

Labour exploding into a million pieces is a challenge!?!!

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Tue, 27 May 2008 18:51:27 +0000

Bishop Hill:

“Come off it! He is saying that everything the party has stood for is wrong! He’s right of course, but nobody is going to be believe it’s a genuine conversion.”

Dennis MacShane is too much of a EUphile for my liking, but he has always come across as a bit of an charming oddball. Therefore if he doesn’t believe this, there must be a reason for saying it.

Hermes123:

“The party no longer has a base, unlike the Tories.”

But the Conservatives base is also shrinking, as its members die off.

Gege:

“I’m not sure that he has ‘outflanked’ the Tories.”

The Conservatives used to be committed to the principle of giving our money back, but now they are not. They want to keep tax levels as high as they are now, which means that any talk of an overall tax cut by other parties outflanks their current position.

Cjcjc:

“I read his article this morning with amazement.”

So did I- I even spluttered.

By: cjcjc

cjcjc — Tue, 27 May 2008 17:27:57 +0000

I read his article this morning with amazement.
Where was he when taxes and spending were being ramped up?
And what on earth, exactly, is he up to?
Desperately trying to prevent the (inevitable?) post-Brown lurch to the left?
What?
Still, very very entertaining…
Conservative Home covering it, of course.
Labour Home more or less dead, as far as one can tell.

By: Gege

Gege — Tue, 27 May 2008 16:39:49 +0000

I’m not sure that he has ‘outflanked’ the Tories. The tories have been pointing out for years that spending was too high and they were shouted down by labour.

Anyhow, there is no evidence that the government will adopt his plans. He is just a back bencher.

By: Hermes123

Hermes123 — Tue, 27 May 2008 13:14:54 +0000

He is right, but he is forgetting that New Labour has moved on too far from being the party of Attlee’s government. It is now riddled with Eton-educated professionals, career politicians and politics graduates who see it all as an intellectual game. The party no longer has a base, unlike the Tories. That is why they will lose, no matter who the leader is next time.

By: Bishop Hill

Bishop Hill — Tue, 27 May 2008 11:42:24 +0000

Come off it! He is saying that everything the party has stood for is wrong! He’s right of course, but nobody is going to be believe it’s a genuine conversion.