To come to logic.

I would say u can ask true Muslim the reason she wears hijab or vile is that to protect her self. Since u dressed in such a way were the other person will not have indecent thoughts abt u, Keeping her self safe from all the possible situation were she can be abused. That is one reason. And one more is if any female who doesn’t were hijab or proper dress that doesn’t cover the parts which incite indecent thought she is entitle for the mistake opposite sex do, Because in Islam what ever u do u r responsible as it is u should make sure what information u r passing though if u give wrong information then u will be punishable.

If a person can see the beauty of a woman walking alone on a road. The first thought that will run across his mind is to take advantage of her. if a women were a hijab then u cut the evil from the root it self. As it is said “prevention is better then cure”. Can any girl say she doesn’t wana be safe i don’t think so. why do u ppl give chance for other ppl to take advantage cut the evil from root.

And coming to u fareeha about the Saudi women they can were any thing under vile or hijab. they can be naked in front of there husband that is allowed since it is husband property and husband is his wife property. But according to u. You want woman to be public property. And coming to islamic imam who told u woman will be entitled of more sins then man. He is right but he dint complete the full sentence. Let me rephrase the sentence for u. Woman are entitle to more sins and good deeds then men because a woman can 6 ppl in there family to hell or heaven. 1) mother 2) father 3) brother 4) sister 5) husband 6) children either she can guide them to right path and gain more good deeds. why women in the sense, It is said in Quran a man is physically strong but emotionally week but woman is physically week but emotionally strong and patient. hope this answer u r question.

modesty comes from actions and speech, not looks.

I agree, in my college generally ( of course not all) the girls who covered from head to toe, were up to something mischevious- dating boys undercover, skipping college…. who would tell their parents when they didn’t even see their faces.

i’m not oppressed…. i’m not stupid…. i choice my life….

Saudi women cannot vote. This undermines Islam, demeans women, and offends everyone.

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b’shalom

bananabrain

I always notice you guys fling the mud at people make fun of peoples spelling but NEVER! try to [...] deconstruct(like Derida, Foucault) their argumants.

perhaps this is because that wouldn’t actually help us to understand them. those guys could make an emergency exit sign incomprehensible. and, OK, fair enough, we shouldn’t be rude about spelling, but i personally would avoid bringing up derrida in this context and then spelling his name wrong while you’re at it. unless this too is a “joke”, of course.

Arab’s been killing so many are brave service menanwomen, now even peace activeists, did you ever axe your self why.
actually, it’s fairly obvious. what isn’t quite so obvious is why 90% of the people the charmingly named “insurgents” kill in iraq are, in fact, muslims. the “wrong sort”, i dare say, but not “zionist crusaders” at any rate.

We give Palestine to the Isreal neo cons when there was all ready Palestinians living on the land (of the sovereign country of Palestine).
“we” being who? the UN? or are you perhaps referring to the first zionist conference in basel in 1870? *rolls eyes* as you ought to know, the 1948 resolution recognising israel (the only state whose existence was explicitly ratified by the international community) divided the territory into a jewish state and an arab state. except, of course, that the arab state was jordan, not palestine. in fact – and i do hate to bring it up – there has never been a sovereign country of palestine (i do think there should be one, of course, so don’t get me wrong) but the territory divided was the “british mandate in palestine” – an area under british sovereignty comprising modern day israel, jordan and the west bank (though not gaza or the golan heights). before 1915, palestine was a distinctly non-sovereign province of the ottoman empire. and before that, it was a part of various empires and kingdoms during the crusades and early islamic empires and, before that, part of the byzantine and roman empires and, before that, a sovereign jewish state. i’m not saying there were no such people as palestinians or anything stupid like that; i’m just saying that the name is older than the group of people who want to be a sovereign nation of palestine.

secondly, “neo-cons” are, unless i have completely misunderstood the term, of recent provenance. you seem to be implying that the rumsfelds, wolfovitzes and other bush cronies were a recognised group in 1948 – which, as they were mostly in short trousers then, or not even born, is probably not correct.

And we give Isreal atomic bombs.
er… actually, the US gives conventional weapons as military aid. the israelis obviously pursue this policy of “nuclear ambiguity” (otherwise known as “you want to find out if we’re bluffing?”) but i understand that before they had their own reactor (not that they do, according to them *rolls eyes*) they had to nick a bunch of uranium from someone – nobody was going to sell it to them in the early 70s. apparently the story of how they got their hands on it has passed into legend in the world of covert operations, although ken follett once wrote a terribly bad novel about it called “triple”. the actual weaponisation and so on the israelis did for themselves. either way, it’s a deterrent, not something to threaten other countries with (which is, according to my sources, why the scuds that landed on tel aviv in 1990 didn’t contain chemical or biological warheads, not because saddam didn’t have any WMDs). or, perhaps you meant to say “the french gave saddam a nuclear reactor and the russians are in the process of giving high-grade uranium to iran although they’re sitting on vast reserves of oil and natural gas”.

Of course they Palestians blow up the neo cons with suicide bomb matyrs, they don’t have no atomic bombs.
nobody’s used atomic bombs on the palestinians! and, in the absence of neocons to avenge themselves on, of course, it therefore follows that these ‘martyrs’ go into pizza restaurants and onto buses and blow up women and children. sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Yes, Saddam did opress some of his own people, Kurds and Shites.
yes he did. but what’s a meatgrinder here, a chemical attack there, or a rape-room elsewhere?

He did bad things but does that make him a bad person. Remember they is good and bad in all of us.
i wonder – what *does* make someone a bad person other than their actions?

b’shalom

bananabrain

Whoa, hold up, Don, Siddharth, Natasha and other you sad regreatful Kafirs

You Question Me, I Answer You. I always notice you guys fling the mud at people make fun of peoples spelling but NEVER! try to debate or deconstruct(like Derida, Foucault) their argumants. For instance I got in a big(huge actually) fight with my brother last week over American foreign policy. Generally the Israeli-Palestinian issue and particullary the Middle East. I asked him “Why Do They Arabs Hate Us? It’s Our Foreign Policy, Stupid.”
The greatest living president this one time he said “Its the economy stupid.” He was talking about how “that” was the importan thing (the economy). You see, William Jefferson Clinton was not making a insult, he was making it cristal clear. It become a famous “catch frays”. That is where my title come’s from.

Arab’s been killing so many are brave service menanwomen, now even peace activeists, did you ever axe your self why. You think its for no reason? Well I going to tell you.

It’s are foreign policy stupid.

We give Palestine to the Isreal neo cons when there was all ready Palestians living on the land (of the sovereign country of Palestine). And we give Isreal atomic bombs. Of course they Palestians blow up the neo cons with suicide bomb matyrs, they don’t have no atomic bombs. There own children bomb belts its the only weapon they have, they love the land so much, they must use it, to get there land back. Of course. We made them do it with are own foreign policy.

What if it was you’re land.

Think about it.

In regards to Iraq, Yes, Saddam did opress some of his own people, Kurds and Shites. But he held a great Iraquois Nation together. His inimitable strong man style. You got to respect that. Good/bad its not all black and white they is shades of gray.

Did you see how he tell the judge

· goto hell
· you’re court don’t have no legimacy
· my under pants is dirty

He is brave you got to give him that. He dont take no crap from no body.

He did bad things but does that make him a bad person. Remeber they is good and bad in all of us.

Wasalaam