Don’t really understand your last one. Race has always been an issue in America that it isnt here. It’s an issue either by people voting for Obama because they are black and are supporting the Bro, whites who are voting for him because he is black and they are liberals and whites who will not vote for him because he is black.

He can say he will be a President for all Americans as much as he likes but race is playing a huge part in this and he is having to distance himsself even more from Wright this morning. There are voters who are saying, quite rightly, how come he didn’t know what this guy was saying when he attended his chuch for twenty years? I am afraid Wright is turning out to be his Lee Jasper.

Thanks to any of you who tuned out for the mass anti BNP leaflet of all London tube stations, there was a good reponse and most were covered. Fingers crossed for results on Friday morning but judging by what has happened in Italy there is a lurch to the right across Europe.

Secondly, the day after Bhutto’s assassination, Axelrod’s first response was to say how this was a product of Clinton’s poor judgement. (December 2007).
Two links for that:
http://thepage.time.com/axelrod-on-bhutto-assassination/
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/12/does_axelrod_think_hills_vote.php

The first link dissects the race card issue as well.

Some of us have noticed and documented how the Obama campaign has been utterly negative from its very beginning.

BTW I think that Wright is becoming a bigger and bigger problem for Obama. I don’t think this should be an important issue, but since Obama made his campaign foucus on ‘judgement’ (and not just on policy), it is inevitable that this will matter.

Sunny – the links were very close for over 20 years: he was his mentor, was initially part of his campaign team; his family regularly attends that church, etc. etc. To top it off, Oprah (!!!) left the church because she disagreed with the preaching. It is difficult for Obama to brush it aside as an occasional encounter in church.

Clinton has made only one statement about it – at the PA debates – and has attacked the Republican ads, as well as saying it is time to move on. But I am sure Obama supporters will find some way to put it all down to her negative campaigning. Sigh.

that’s too high sunny. about 2/3 of black americans are identified democrats. most of the rest are dem-leaning independents. dem part identification is around 35% of the pop last i checked. you can do the math.

Had he been Caucasian and direct comments at blacks similar to those directed at white voters in rural Pennsylvania, and had he surrounded himself with such an odious entourage, such as the ‘reverend’ Wright (a black David Duke), the media would have raked him over the coals and cast him out months ago.

Furthermore, American Blacks have been shrinking as a total percentage of the U.S. population, and their staus as priority minority has been ceded to Hispanics who now form the largest visible minority in the country.

Hispanics are of a much different mind-set, have risked life and limb to illegally enter the country, have a daring, go-getter attitude and display signs of self-reliance and independance that are more in tune with republican thinking.

Because of history they feel they are already an integral part of America, and with their growing demographic, their rising economic and social profile, they are not here to *overcome*, but to overwhelm.

With their attitudes and ambitions, they have common traits with the increasing numbers of East Europeans moving to the UK , in fact.

I sincerely believe these elections will be the last in American history where so much energy is always focused on Black/White issues.

Any 20-something Americans harbouring presidential ambitions had better bone up on their spanish.

WTF has all this to do with Asians in the Media?

Eh?

Well, you;re the one making it about race… Obama has pointedly tried not to address it for ages and even now refuses to condemn Bil Clinton or others for their remarks. And when he did address race, he did so in an all-encompassing way.

You can’t have your cake and eat it too. On the one hand you’re complaining about how people can’t move beyond race, and on the other you’re complaining about his pastor. What has the pastor got to do with Obama – who he disagrees with? And what about McCain’s relationship with Hagee?

Watch the Jon Stewart video!

You’re forgetting the independents, where again Obama has better numbers than Clinton.

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We all know about the Clintons, they have a track record and if she is selected or elected it will be, like Livingston,because she is a known quantity. I dont like them and hate Livingstone because of what he has done to London in terms of everything but particularly the racial divisions he and his lackies have fostered.

But I look at Obama and wonder what is there? Can anyone tell me what his slogans mean? What is the “Audacity of Hope” all about?

He doesn’t seem to have any policies beyond trust me and it will all be OK. One of his problems is going to be is he a black man first, as Guardian writer Gary Younge seems to think, or is he a man who is half black who will be a president for all Americans? There is a misconception this side of the pond that the rainbow coalition of all the non whites will be supporting him. The only problem with that is that there is no such thing.

There are other ethnic groups in the States who, interms of the Hispanics, are equal in numbers or just about and Asians who are economically better off and who do not identify with Democratic tax and spend, because it is they who are being taxed.

These groups also are wary, as is the majority white population, of so called affirmative action schemes which much of the black electorate want extended. This anti white discrimination is one of the reasons why Republicans have made such inroads into traditional Democrat voting blue collar communities in much the same way as the BNP has here.

Obama has problems, the least of which are slum landlords and racist pastors. It is also no good posters here asking what about whitewatergate? That was then, this is now.

He will also be faced with, if elected, the biggest economic slump since the thirties, two foreign wars and the expectations of a black electorate which he cannot fulfill. We are in for rough ride on both aside os the Atlantic over the next few years.

Anyway only four days to go until the London elections, plus the BNP are standing 650 candidates in elections around the country, so its back to the grindstone of leafleting. I,m not looking forward to Friday morning.

“After he convincingly wins North Carolina next week there will be zero chance for her to win on delegate numbers. She’ll need to win the remaining states by over 80% in the remaining states to barely catch up in the delegate count.”

Sunny, there was zero chance she would win the pledge delegate count before the Pennsylvania primary either, nothing really changed on that account.

However, more importantly, as as it stands, she has to convince 75% of the remaining superdelegates to vote for her. Obama only needs to convince 25% to cling to the nomination – so this race is over.

I am beginning to think the Rev. Wright issue will hurt Obama to the point that a mediocre politician will once again have an easy path to the White House.

I always think that Poltics is so bereft of people of vision at the moment that the first truly inspired politico to get head and shoulders above the trough could clean up- here or America. I’d like that person to be Obama but I’m not holding my breath.

The Democrat base is energised by Obama, and they’ll be turned off by an establishment coup.