Comments on: Abu Izzadeen convicted for supporting terrorism

By: Jerry

Jerry — Wed, 07 May 2008 07:38:53 +0000

So Abu Izzadeen was convicted of fund raising for terrorism and for inciting terrorism.

Did not Gordon Brown do some fund raising for terrorism and incite terrorism with the bombing of Iraq?

It seems to me that there is one law for those in power and another for those who are not.

By: The Dude

The Dude — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:28:36 +0000

BTW: I have no doubt that Abu Izzadeen is guilty. That being the case so is Tony Blair, Geoff Hoon and Gordon Brown. Otherwise equally under the law is a myth and a dangerous myth at that.

By: The Dude

The Dude — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:20:42 +0000

Precisely my dear Marvin, we’re ALL guilty! The fact remains that Abu Izzadeen’s opinions are NOT a million miles away from the opinions of a very many people in this country, not all of them are raving Muslim Islamic Fundamentalist. It’s coming to something when ordinary Iraqi’s citizens both Sunni and Shia regard the presence of both American, British and al-Qaidan fighting forces on their soil as nothing short of a act of terrorism. Remember ALL THREE are regarded to have no legitimate right to be in Iraq, period, as none were invited. Surely even in your book, there can be no offense in self defense.

By: marvin

marvin — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:13:31 +0000

all taxpayers of the UK could be found guilty of the same crime and as for incitement Actually "The Dude", are do sound very reminiscent of the man himself No such thing as innocents, eh!

By: The Dude

The Dude — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:11:26 +0000

And as for being found guilty of raising funds for terrorism, well any and all taxpayers of the UK could be found guilty of the same crime and as for incitement then just go to Bush and Blair. Hell, they just won’t be able to keep up with the demand. The prisons are going to be full to overflowing.

By: The Dude

The Dude — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:05:32 +0000

Gordon Bennett! Now you can be found guilty for merely speaking your mind. The powers that be had better start building alot more prisons and fast because most of the country are soon going to be in them.

By: marvin

marvin — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:45:17 +0000

Michael Moore says everything was laughing children and blue skies in Iraq before the war. Inversal Michael Moore says everything was laughing children and blue skies in Iraq after the war.

anti-war/pro-war
Milne/Kamm
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Sid you know I don’t think everything is hunky dory now. It’s terrible. I am really quite centrist. Michael Moore is not.

The fact is Iraq has been a messed up place for a very long time with the brutal Baath regime.

Yes, you could say that people lived in peace. But, what’s the truth? It may have seemed like peace but they either complied absolutely with the terrifyingly complex and paranoiac regime, or they pretty much ceased to exist.

They were probably fine, as long as they didn’t say or do the wrong thing.

A person like me, and I’m sure like you Sid would not bode well under a dictatorship.

The temporary alternative is anarchy. But can a society really live in a sustained anarchy for 20-30 years? I doubt it. History shows us that stability will be found.

It’s beyond appalling how the militias and death squads rule in some of the localities with terror. Words cannot describe it. There were nowhere near enough troops to ensure a stable Iraq.

By: sonia

sonia — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:42:47 +0000

“Freedom of speech means I can rave all day long about how Iâ€™m going to assassinate the president”

interesting you should say that. Isn’t it interesting: In the US of A you can’t go around raving about assasinating the President without getting arrested, actually. They take that very seriously..plenty of interesting case law that’s come out of that.

By: Golam Murtaza

Golam Murtaza — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:06:29 +0000

Marvin, you argue the Islamic militias in Iraq are nowhere near as efficient as the Ba’ath party. Maybe that’s true. But “nowhere near as brutal”?! I would have thought they’re every bit as brutal, surely?

By: Sid

Sid — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:38:05 +0000

Michael Moore says everything was laughing children and blue skies in Iraq before the war. Inversal Michael Moore says everything was laughing children and blue skies in Iraq after the war.

anti-war/pro-war
Milne/Kamm
0/1

By: marvin

marvin — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:34:00 +0000

Ms_Extreme (do you write ‘poems’ by any chance?!)

Abu was convicted of fund raising for terrorism and for inciting terrorism.

It’s not the same as idly saying you are going to assassinate the president. Abu raised money so that innocent people can be slaughtered.

And he’s got clear incitement to murder, he’s a quite nasty piece of work.

This is the inverse Michael Moore.

What, like a really thin, normal person?

By: bananabrain

bananabrain — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:38:51 +0000

deary me, poor trevor. muwahahahahaha. can i come in for a gloat?

b’shalom

bananabrain

By: Sid

Sid — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:38:21 +0000

Well the Saddam regime was destroyed, not the country.

This is the inverse Michael Moore.

By: Boyo

Boyo — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:31:48 +0000

I just thought: how ugly and stupid they all looked. I mean, really – what a bunch of losers. They can’t get a job or a girlfriend or whatever, so they decide to destroy the world.

By: Ms_Xtreme

Ms_Xtreme — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:25:55 +0000

I’m sorry, I don’t think someone giving speeches about anything is basis enough to prosecute them as terrorists.

Freedom of speech means I can rave all day long about how I’m going to assassinate the president. Doesn’t mean I will.

By: marvin

marvin — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:55:20 +0000

Well the Saddam regime was destroyed, not the country. And now Islamic militias are reigning terror. Nowhere near as brutal or efficient as the Baath party, but still very very bad.

A lot of mistakes have been made, to say the least, but the Iraqis themselves say the decision was correct. it’s only Western liberals who prefer them to live under Saddam.

Anyway, back to the topic.

I agree I think it’s really beggars belief that he was invited on to the Today program. What on earth were they thinking?

By: Sunny

Sunny — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:50:05 +0000

Oh god, we’re back into old territory again. Sure, the Iraqis voted. What else did you expect them to do given how the country has been destroyed?

Personally I think the actions of people like Tony Blair have played more than a small part in fuelling the actions of such people.

Yes, I’d agree with that.

By: marvin

marvin — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:43:56 +0000

Yeah what a cunt. Those Iraqis wanted to live under an unimaginably brutal and genocidal dictatorship. What turncoats, those 8 million Iraqis who voted! Those neo-con imperialist Iraqis – the most pro-Iraq war nation on earth!

Seriously, though, when did Britain last “raid a country” for it’s resources? The British empire was a long time ago. I know Bin Laden has got a long memory, way beyond his age but the British empire is a very weak motivating factor in blowing up buses and trains with our friends and families on board.

By: Dalbir

Dalbir — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:26:35 +0000

As much as I hate Islamist fundamentalism – what do the British expect when they raid other countries for their resources?

Personally I think the actions of people like Tony Blair have played more than a small part in fuelling the actions of such people.

Hail to Blair, the king of the Anglo-Saxons. If extremist elements within the Muslim community were ever looking for a leader to unite them, they found it in that asshole. Hark to the reborn Richard “Lionheart”..etc. etc. The last hope of Christendom..etc. etc.

What a big cunt he is….