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Eminem copycat murderer gets life

Posted By Al-Hack On 2nd December, 2005 @ 3:29 am In Current affairs | Comments Disabled

jagdipTalking of murders that get little coverage in the media, I found 12 mentions for Jagdip Najran, most of them very recent. Yet this 26 year old Law student was [1] battered to death in May 2004 by a man obsessed by rapper Eminem.

The pair left the bar and stopped off for a drink at another pub before heading back to Duncan’s flat, where various weapons and violent videos were found.

But at some stage he battered her over the head with an iron baseball bat and stuffed her in a suitcase, where she remained alive for another hour, the court heard. “His motive for this unprovoked and brutal killing of a defenceless and vulnerable woman, has not been established,” said Mr Laidlaw.

He admitted murdering her yesterday. I think I’m going to feel sick.


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#1 Comment By mellow On 2nd December, 2005 @ 10:23 am

I read about this.
Was a weird one, very very sad. However it does seriously underline the whole ‘be careful who you go home with’ message.
The lack of coverage shocked me at first but then a number of murder cases go by every year with little or no coverage, and the only reason this is getting mentioned is that they have the ‘eminem made him do it’ angle, however tenuous the link may be.

#2 Comment By Geezer On 2nd December, 2005 @ 11:55 am

I can’t believe there is hardly anything of this story in the media apart from a few words on teletext….

The sheer savagery of his killing is shocking

“But at some stage he battered her over the head with an iron baseball bat and stuffed her in a suitcase, where she remained alive for another hour”

#3 Comment By krazie On 2nd December, 2005 @ 12:21 pm

I was having a conversation yestserday with my colleague on the issue of bringing back the death penalty.

eventhough i’m still vehemently against it, i don’t think any tears would be shed if he were sent to the gallows.

#4 Comment By sonia On 2nd December, 2005 @ 12:37 pm

but bringing back the death penalty?!

not a good reaction to something like this. why do we think somehow someone will be punished ‘more’ if we condemn them to death. i dont think humans should ever play the role of who decides to hand out death - i mean its such a funny concept - why would we want to and why do we think we have any right? and if someone says oh there’s not enough space in jails - well then they ought not to be arresting people on silly things as they currently do.

#5 Comment By Peter On 2nd December, 2005 @ 12:46 pm

Terrible case. But the death penalty would just make the world a sadder place.

#6 Comment By leon On 2nd December, 2005 @ 1:26 pm

I don’t think Krazie was calling for the death penalty to return…

#7 Comment By krazie On 2nd December, 2005 @ 1:32 pm

Sonia, i’m not in favour of re-introducing the death penalty. And i don’t think any UK government would do either.

However, if you were to ask the British public if the above case should be by trial and execution, i would guess that you would have an overwhelming majority in favour.

#8 Comment By Col. Mustafa On 2nd December, 2005 @ 1:38 pm

Very sad.

#9 Comment By Vikrant On 2nd December, 2005 @ 1:52 pm

*pukes*

#10 Comment By blue mountain On 2nd December, 2005 @ 1:57 pm

Post no. 5…Peter

Terrible case. But the death penalty would just make the world a sadder place.

So I assume that the world is much happier than it was 50 years ago and the Europeans are a happy lot compared to Americans.

#11 Comment By contrarymary On 2nd December, 2005 @ 2:12 pm

this has been splashed all over the papers - mainly as mellow points out in a - violent rap music made him do it kind of way. there’s also the salacious aspect to it, as the pair went home together - two factors our great british press love.

now the murderer is being interviewed regarding the murder of that jogger in a park in Hackney.

as for the death penalty - one argument which for me means it should never be reintroduced here - is miscarriages of justice.

#12 Comment By blue mountain On 2nd December, 2005 @ 2:53 pm

Don’t worry marymaryquitecontrary.

Another bombing and they will soon start wondering whether it was a good idea to scrap death penalty !

#13 Comment By Bikhair On 2nd December, 2005 @ 3:18 pm

blue mountain,

“Another bombing and they will soon start wondering whether it was a good idea to scrap death penalty !”

How do you guys come to disregard such a great application of the law? If you guys love life, you have to be willing to take the lives of those who wish to end them especially in such heinous ways.

#14 Comment By krazie On 2nd December, 2005 @ 3:19 pm

Bluemountain. You’ve got more confidence in our Criminal Justice System than most.

#15 Comment By blue mountain On 2nd December, 2005 @ 3:20 pm

Hmmm………

#16 Comment By blue mountain On 2nd December, 2005 @ 3:21 pm

my give up !!

#17 Comment By shihab On 2nd December, 2005 @ 3:45 pm

“Another bombing and they will soon start wondering whether it was a good idea to scrap death penalty !”

Of course, there’s no better deterrant to a suicide bomber than the death penalty

#18 Comment By Siddharth On 2nd December, 2005 @ 3:56 pm

hahaha

#19 Comment By Vikrant On 2nd December, 2005 @ 4:15 pm

How do you guys come to disregard such a great application of the law? If you guys love life, you have to be willing to take the lives of those who wish to end them especially in such heinous ways.

Bit rich comming from a fundy Wahabbi.

#20 Comment By Vikrant On 2nd December, 2005 @ 4:16 pm

Of course, there’s no better deterrant to a suicide bomber than the death penalty

I take it that you were being sarcastic.

#21 Comment By sonia On 2nd December, 2005 @ 5:25 pm

sure - if you asked the public they’d probably want to kill off lots of people. yeah exactly so what would that prove ( that the public would be in favour of death penalty in this instance) except that there are plenty of potential murderers in the public. such ideas imply that if a majority is in favour of killing someone then its okay? - right so if the majority of the nazis were in favour of gassing the Jewish part of their population which were a minority - its okay?

see where this sort of thing leads - just because a majority is in favour of tyranny doesn’t make it not a tyranny.

#22 Comment By Bikhair On 2nd December, 2005 @ 6:00 pm

Shihab,

Ha Ha, that was funny coming from you.

#23 Comment By Bikhair On 2nd December, 2005 @ 6:01 pm

Vikrant,

“Bit rich comming from a fundy Wahabbi.”

In this instance most people agree with me. So yes I have a wealth of support.

#24 Comment By shihab On 2nd December, 2005 @ 7:30 pm

“Shihab,
Ha Ha, that was funny coming from you.”

Proof, if proof were needed, that my intermittent jokes on this forum are every bit as bad as my paranoia suggests.

Ah well, back to the old monkhouse book…

#25 Comment By j0nz On 2nd December, 2005 @ 7:32 pm

I wonder how long this sick f***er will get? Should be no less than 50 years IMO. I bet this psychopath will be out in 15-20 years.

#26 Comment By j0nz On 2nd December, 2005 @ 7:33 pm

I am against the death penalty. But if he’d of done that to someone I loved, god help him.

#27 Comment By Sunny On 2nd December, 2005 @ 8:13 pm

I read this in the Guardian this morning too… its sick! Just the pure psychotic nature of this means that no amount of prison will help. He actually needs to be in a mental insitution.

#28 Comment By shihab On 2nd December, 2005 @ 8:24 pm

Mental institution… meaning he’ll be out and in the care of the community in a few years…

#29 Comment By Jez On 2nd December, 2005 @ 9:00 pm

psyhopath “Christopher Duncan” is also prime suspect for the unsolved murder of the jogger Margaret Muller - I think that was nearly 18 months ago . . so it’s all the fault of an incompetent police force !

#30 Comment By El Cid On 3rd December, 2005 @ 1:10 am

I dont want to go off on a tangent but when is anyone gonna discuss what is happening in Egypt? Remember what happened in Algeria? What’s the answer Sunny and co? It goes to the heart of the matter.

#31 Comment By sonia On 3rd December, 2005 @ 2:20 am

maybe they used the same crappy proportional representation system - who knows/ or the same system that got bush into office first time..?

and anway back up to a point earlier - its pretty clear prison doesn’t *help* - why usually turns people into even more hardened criminals if they weren’t already! though i daresay the original idea of prison wasn’t to ‘help’ but to ‘punish’.

#32 Comment By sonia On 3rd December, 2005 @ 2:28 am

krazie - i was just responding to the train of thought your comment raised - i wasn’t trying to imply you were for it or vilify you personally! :-) sorry if that wasn’t clear..

bikhair -

you have to be willing to take the lives of those who wish to end them especially in such heinous ways

really - (i may have misunderstood this but you seemed to be Religious) and i dont see how taking people’s lives fits into the remit of ‘humans’ - if God can forgive, and is the Judge, then how can humans intervene and take life away and thus not allow the person to ‘ask for forgiveness’ or sth along those lines.. i dont really get that…?perhaps with your religious wisdom you could clarify that for me. isnt humans wanting to make decisions on death trying to muscle in on this ‘divine right’ …dunno really whatcha think?

#33 Comment By Spice On 3rd December, 2005 @ 7:25 pm

I think the whole thing is so sad. Jag went to College with me and although we never really saw eye to eye, I find this news shocking. Its total injustice that she was killed over a year ago and nothing has been in the media about it until now. I just wish we hadn’t held a grudge over something so stupid and I wish that she was still here. Nobody deserves such a brutal death. I hope this guy has a long prison sentence and rots in jail. He doesn’t deserve the death penalty, thats too quick and painless, he deserves a slow and painful death, that girl bled to death, curled up in a suitcase!

#34 Comment By sonia On 3rd December, 2005 @ 11:36 pm

guardian blog debate on bringing back the death penalty:

[2] http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/12/02/death_rows.html

#35 Comment By Rohin On 4th December, 2005 @ 3:57 pm

Did any of you read the discussion of this same story on [3] Sepia Mutiny? What a difference between American and British views. I don’t want to sound like a tub-thumping Brit (oh okay I do) but South Asians in America often seem to have a much more conservative outlook, which is why so many in that thread have blamed the victim in this crime for effectively asking to be murdered by going home with a white guy. Surprising stuff.

(Interestingly we started talking about the death penalty, which the Americans have and we don’t!)

#36 Comment By Rohin On 4th December, 2005 @ 5:58 pm

Here is the [4] latest:

“It is her fault also… even if not equally.”

#37 Comment By Manish On 4th December, 2005 @ 6:39 pm

Rohin, I have to take issue with one thing: nobody except maybe one lone wacko mentioned race as a factor, only that you should get to know whomever you’re snogging before leaving the venue.

#38 Comment By Rohin On 4th December, 2005 @ 6:50 pm

Yes, fair point Manish, race is not the main complaint from the aunty & uncle mafia, but you have to agree that there has been a distinct air of judgement on that thread, directed squarely at Najran. I’m sure this would have been less prevalent had the killer been another Indian.

Now don’t be gittin’ the impression that I bad-mouth SM(!), I frequently big you guys up, but irrespective it’s your visitors who have surprised me on this topic, not SM itself.

#39 Comment By Sunny On 4th December, 2005 @ 8:29 pm

Wow, I just looked at the SM comments. I was always of the opinion that its British Asians who’re more conservative, so I’m not sure I necessarily agree with that hypothesis. But I am surprised how many people are having a go at the girl and making a big deal about the couple sleeping with each other.

#40 Comment By Vol-in-Law On 5th December, 2005 @ 9:55 am

When I worked at Mile End there always seemed to be murders and mysterious deaths, sometimes of students. I think the East End is a dangerous area for middle class people like Jagdip and Margaret, whatever their race or ethnicity.

#41 Comment By Satpal On 8th December, 2005 @ 10:38 am

i reckon a lot of people in jail already have mental problems. people do crime because of this.

i wonder if the guy was not white, would eminem’s name be mentioned?

#42 Comment By lee y On 17th December, 2005 @ 2:30 pm

the man that did this probably wanted eminem to be accused but its not eminems fault he raps about it it doesnt mean that he does it?

signed lee y

#43 Comment By shady On 18th January, 2006 @ 6:32 pm

i think its all bs i mean eminem may rap about it but it aint his fault the dude wanted 2 accuse em em is the greatest rapper ya ita a tradgy but dont blame em its not his fault

#44 Comment By shady On 18th January, 2006 @ 6:33 pm

this is all bs dont blame em for a physo person
peace out love ya em

#45 Comment By Prince ipal On 19th January, 2006 @ 2:29 pm

I have little sympathy for the victim in this crime. You make choices in life, and if you choose to pick up strange, eminem-wannabe clowns in pubs and slope off to some dingy flat to get your rocks off, so be it.
Her parents must have been so proud of her. I wonder how they broke the news to the rest of the family?
Was she hit by a car? Did she have long-term health problems? Was it a freak yachting accident?…..Well actually no, it’s a bit more complicated than that!!

The reason why this story had little media exposure is because it is a complete non-story.
Slut bangs crazed druggy, gets killed…..and now for the weather.

#46 Comment By desiree On 19th January, 2006 @ 6:40 pm

this is all crap i love eminem this is bs i agree with shady
i want to meet eminem ya im obsessed mbut i would never kill anyone

#47 Comment By Don On 19th January, 2006 @ 6:51 pm

Oh, dear. Cockroaches creeping into the cellar again.

#48 Comment By tatiana On 24th March, 2006 @ 5:21 pm

I THINK EMINEM MOTS RETIRE HEMSELF,
CHR. DUNCAN ARE A BIG STUPID BECAUSE EMINEM SAY WHAT HE WANTS BUT HE NEVER TOUCH A WOMEN.

FUCK THE MEN.

#49 Comment By tatiana On 3rd April, 2006 @ 5:16 pm

CHR. DUNCAN DON’T LOVE HEM SELFS,
IN OTHER PLACE HE THINK TWICE BEFORE HE COMMET SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THIS.

#50 Comment By tatiana On 3rd April, 2006 @ 5:19 pm

EMINEM DON’T HAVE CONSIENCE, BECAUSE IN ONE OF HEM SITES HE TELL THAT ‘THAT BOY MUST STILL DO WHAT HE DO AND HE MUST STILL SING HEM SONGS.

I BLAME EMINEM

#51 Comment By mizzutti On 4th April, 2006 @ 5:47 pm

eminem are a big stupid,i always hate hem.

EMINEM MUST STOP SING.

I BLAME EMINEM TO.

HE CRITIC HEM MOTHER BUT HIS FATHER IS NOT BETTER.AND WHY HE DON’T SING SO MANY SONGS FOR HIS FUCKING FATHER TO.
CAUSE HE CAN ONLEY CRITIC WOMEN.
I KNOW A MAN,HE LIKE HEM SONGS, HE WANTS ME BUT I DON’T WANNA BE WITH A FAN OF EMINEM,ONLEY FOR THAT REASON I DON’T LIKE HEM.EMINEM YOU COMMPLICATE THE WORLD.

#52 Comment By Vikrant On 4th April, 2006 @ 5:49 pm

Hell why do all eminem fans have faulty “caps lock” keys?


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[1] battered to death: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4489056.stm
[2] http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/12/02/death_rows.html: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/12/02/death_rows.html
[3] Sepia Mutiny: http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/002601.html
[4] latest: http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/002601.html#comment36860