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    Eminem copycat murderer gets life


    by Al-Hack on 2nd December, 2005 at 3:29 am    

    jagdipTalking of murders that get little coverage in the media, I found 12 mentions for Jagdip Najran, most of them very recent. Yet this 26 year old Law student was battered to death in May 2004 by a man obsessed by rapper Eminem.

    The pair left the bar and stopped off for a drink at another pub before heading back to Duncan’s flat, where various weapons and violent videos were found.

    But at some stage he battered her over the head with an iron baseball bat and stuffed her in a suitcase, where she remained alive for another hour, the court heard. “His motive for this unprovoked and brutal killing of a defenceless and vulnerable woman, has not been established,” said Mr Laidlaw.

    He admitted murdering her yesterday. I think I’m going to feel sick.



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    1. mellow — on 2nd December, 2005 at 10:23 am  

      I read about this.
      Was a weird one, very very sad. However it does seriously underline the whole ‘be careful who you go home with’ message.
      The lack of coverage shocked me at first but then a number of murder cases go by every year with little or no coverage, and the only reason this is getting mentioned is that they have the ‘eminem made him do it’ angle, however tenuous the link may be.

    2. Geezer — on 2nd December, 2005 at 11:55 am  

      I can’t believe there is hardly anything of this story in the media apart from a few words on teletext….

      The sheer savagery of his killing is shocking

      “But at some stage he battered her over the head with an iron baseball bat and stuffed her in a suitcase, where she remained alive for another hour”

    3. krazie — on 2nd December, 2005 at 12:21 pm  

      I was having a conversation yestserday with my colleague on the issue of bringing back the death penalty.

      eventhough i’m still vehemently against it, i don’t think any tears would be shed if he were sent to the gallows.

    4. sonia — on 2nd December, 2005 at 12:37 pm  

      but bringing back the death penalty?!

      not a good reaction to something like this. why do we think somehow someone will be punished ‘more’ if we condemn them to death. i dont think humans should ever play the role of who decides to hand out death - i mean its such a funny concept - why would we want to and why do we think we have any right? and if someone says oh there’s not enough space in jails - well then they ought not to be arresting people on silly things as they currently do.

    5. Peter — on 2nd December, 2005 at 12:46 pm  

      Terrible case. But the death penalty would just make the world a sadder place.

    6. leon — on 2nd December, 2005 at 1:26 pm  

      I don’t think Krazie was calling for the death penalty to return…

    7. krazie — on 2nd December, 2005 at 1:32 pm  

      Sonia, i’m not in favour of re-introducing the death penalty. And i don’t think any UK government would do either.

      However, if you were to ask the British public if the above case should be by trial and execution, i would guess that you would have an overwhelming majority in favour.

    8. Col. Mustafa — on 2nd December, 2005 at 1:38 pm  

      Very sad.

    9. Vikrant — on 2nd December, 2005 at 1:52 pm  

      *pukes*

    10. blue mountain — on 2nd December, 2005 at 1:57 pm  

      Post no. 5…Peter

      Terrible case. But the death penalty would just make the world a sadder place.

      So I assume that the world is much happier than it was 50 years ago and the Europeans are a happy lot compared to Americans.

    11. contrarymary — on 2nd December, 2005 at 2:12 pm  

      this has been splashed all over the papers - mainly as mellow points out in a - violent rap music made him do it kind of way. there’s also the salacious aspect to it, as the pair went home together - two factors our great british press love.

      now the murderer is being interviewed regarding the murder of that jogger in a park in Hackney.

      as for the death penalty - one argument which for me means it should never be reintroduced here - is miscarriages of justice.

    12. blue mountain — on 2nd December, 2005 at 2:53 pm  

      Don’t worry marymaryquitecontrary.

      Another bombing and they will soon start wondering whether it was a good idea to scrap death penalty !

    13. Bikhair — on 2nd December, 2005 at 3:18 pm  

      blue mountain,

      “Another bombing and they will soon start wondering whether it was a good idea to scrap death penalty !”

      How do you guys come to disregard such a great application of the law? If you guys love life, you have to be willing to take the lives of those who wish to end them especially in such heinous ways.

    14. krazie — on 2nd December, 2005 at 3:19 pm  

      Bluemountain. You’ve got more confidence in our Criminal Justice System than most.

    15. blue mountain — on 2nd December, 2005 at 3:20 pm  

      Hmmm………

    16. blue mountain — on 2nd December, 2005 at 3:21 pm  

      my give up !!

    17. shihab — on 2nd December, 2005 at 3:45 pm  

      “Another bombing and they will soon start wondering whether it was a good idea to scrap death penalty !”

      Of course, there’s no better deterrant to a suicide bomber than the death penalty

    18. Siddharth — on 2nd December, 2005 at 3:56 pm  

      hahaha

    19. Vikrant — on 2nd December, 2005 at 4:15 pm  

      How do you guys come to disregard such a great application of the law? If you guys love life, you have to be willing to take the lives of those who wish to end them especially in such heinous ways.

      Bit rich comming from a fundy Wahabbi.

    20. Vikrant — on 2nd December, 2005 at 4:16 pm  

      Of course, there’s no better deterrant to a suicide bomber than the death penalty

      I take it that you were being sarcastic.

    21. sonia — on 2nd December, 2005 at 5:25 pm  

      sure - if you asked the public they’d probably want to kill off lots of people. yeah exactly so what would that prove ( that the public would be in favour of death penalty in this instance) except that there are plenty of potential murderers in the public. such ideas imply that if a majority is in favour of killing someone then its okay? - right so if the majority of the nazis were in favour of gassing the Jewish part of their population which were a minority - its okay?

      see where this sort of thing leads - just because a majority is in favour of tyranny doesn’t make it not a tyranny.

    22. Bikhair — on 2nd December, 2005 at 6:00 pm  

      Shihab,

      Ha Ha, that was funny coming from you.

    23. Bikhair — on 2nd December, 2005 at 6:01 pm  

      Vikrant,

      “Bit rich comming from a fundy Wahabbi.”

      In this instance most people agree with me. So yes I have a wealth of support.

    24. shihab — on 2nd December, 2005 at 7:30 pm  

      “Shihab,
      Ha Ha, that was funny coming from you.”

      Proof, if proof were needed, that my intermittent jokes on this forum are every bit as bad as my paranoia suggests.

      Ah well, back to the old monkhouse book…

    25. j0nz — on 2nd December, 2005 at 7:32 pm  

      I wonder how long this sick f***er will get? Should be no less than 50 years IMO. I bet this psychopath will be out in 15-20 years.

    26. j0nz — on 2nd December, 2005 at 7:33 pm  

      I am against the death penalty. But if he’d of done that to someone I loved, god help him.

    27. Sunny — on 2nd December, 2005 at 8:13 pm  

      I read this in the Guardian this morning too… its sick! Just the pure psychotic nature of this means that no amount of prison will help. He actually needs to be in a mental insitution.

    28. shihab — on 2nd December, 2005 at 8:24 pm  

      Mental institution… meaning he’ll be out and in the care of the community in a few years…

    29. Jez — on 2nd December, 2005 at 9:00 pm  

      psyhopath “Christopher Duncan” is also prime suspect for the unsolved murder of the jogger Margaret Muller - I think that was nearly 18 months ago . . so it’s all the fault of an incompetent police force !

    30. El Cid — on 3rd December, 2005 at 1:10 am  

      I dont want to go off on a tangent but when is anyone gonna discuss what is happening in Egypt? Remember what happened in Algeria? What’s the answer Sunny and co? It goes to the heart of the matter.

    31. sonia — on 3rd December, 2005 at 2:20 am  

      maybe they used the same crappy proportional representation system - who knows/ or the same system that got bush into office first time..?

      and anway back up to a point earlier - its pretty clear prison doesn’t *help* - why usually turns people into even more hardened criminals if they weren’t already! though i daresay the original idea of prison wasn’t to ‘help’ but to ‘punish’.

    32. sonia — on 3rd December, 2005 at 2:28 am  

      krazie - i was just responding to the train of thought your comment raised - i wasn’t trying to imply you were for it or vilify you personally! :-) sorry if that wasn’t clear..

      bikhair -

      you have to be willing to take the lives of those who wish to end them especially in such heinous ways

      really - (i may have misunderstood this but you seemed to be Religious) and i dont see how taking people’s lives fits into the remit of ‘humans’ - if God can forgive, and is the Judge, then how can humans intervene and take life away and thus not allow the person to ‘ask for forgiveness’ or sth along those lines.. i dont really get that…?perhaps with your religious wisdom you could clarify that for me. isnt humans wanting to make decisions on death trying to muscle in on this ‘divine right’ …dunno really whatcha think?

    33. Spice — on 3rd December, 2005 at 7:25 pm  

      I think the whole thing is so sad. Jag went to College with me and although we never really saw eye to eye, I find this news shocking. Its total injustice that she was killed over a year ago and nothing has been in the media about it until now. I just wish we hadn’t held a grudge over something so stupid and I wish that she was still here. Nobody deserves such a brutal death. I hope this guy has a long prison sentence and rots in jail. He doesn’t deserve the death penalty, thats too quick and painless, he deserves a slow and painful death, that girl bled to death, curled up in a suitcase!

    34. sonia — on 3rd December, 2005 at 11:36 pm  

      guardian blog debate on bringing back the death penalty:

      http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/12/02/death_rows.html

    35. Rohin — on 4th December, 2005 at 3:57 pm  

      Did any of you read the discussion of this same story on Sepia Mutiny? What a difference between American and British views. I don’t want to sound like a tub-thumping Brit (oh okay I do) but South Asians in America often seem to have a much more conservative outlook, which is why so many in that thread have blamed the victim in this crime for effectively asking to be murdered by going home with a white guy. Surprising stuff.

      (Interestingly we started talking about the death penalty, which the Americans have and we don’t!)

    36. Rohin — on 4th December, 2005 at 5:58 pm  

      Here is the latest:

      “It is her fault also… even if not equally.”

    37. Manish — on 4th December, 2005 at 6:39 pm  

      Rohin, I have to take issue with one thing: nobody except maybe one lone wacko mentioned race as a factor, only that you should get to know whomever you’re snogging before leaving the venue.

    38. Rohin — on 4th December, 2005 at 6:50 pm  

      Yes, fair point Manish, race is not the main complaint from the aunty & uncle mafia, but you have to agree that there has been a distinct air of judgement on that thread, directed squarely at Najran. I’m sure this would have been less prevalent had the killer been another Indian.

      Now don’t be gittin’ the impression that I bad-mouth SM(!), I frequently big you guys up, but irrespective it’s your visitors who have surprised me on this topic, not SM itself.

    39. Sunny — on 4th December, 2005 at 8:29 pm  

      Wow, I just looked at the SM comments. I was always of the opinion that its British Asians who’re more conservative, so I’m not sure I necessarily agree with that hypothesis. But I am surprised how many people are having a go at the girl and making a big deal about the couple sleeping with each other.

    40. Vol-in-Law — on 5th December, 2005 at 9:55 am  

      When I worked at Mile End there always seemed to be murders and mysterious deaths, sometimes of students. I think the East End is a dangerous area for middle class people like Jagdip and Margaret, whatever their race or ethnicity.

    41. Satpal — on 8th December, 2005 at 10:38 am  

      i reckon a lot of people in jail already have mental problems. people do crime because of this.

      i wonder if the guy was not white, would eminem’s name be mentioned?

    42. lee y — on 17th December, 2005 at 2:30 pm  

      the man that did this probably wanted eminem to be accused but its not eminems fault he raps about it it doesnt mean that he does it?

      signed lee y

    43. shady — on 18th January, 2006 at 6:32 pm  

      i think its all bs i mean eminem may rap about it but it aint his fault the dude wanted 2 accuse em em is the greatest rapper ya ita a tradgy but dont blame em its not his fault

    44. shady — on 18th January, 2006 at 6:33 pm  

      this is all bs dont blame em for a physo person
      peace out love ya em

    45. Prince ipal — on 19th January, 2006 at 2:29 pm  

      I have little sympathy for the victim in this crime. You make choices in life, and if you choose to pick up strange, eminem-wannabe clowns in pubs and slope off to some dingy flat to get your rocks off, so be it.
      Her parents must have been so proud of her. I wonder how they broke the news to the rest of the family?
      Was she hit by a car? Did she have long-term health problems? Was it a freak yachting accident?…..Well actually no, it’s a bit more complicated than that!!

      The reason why this story had little media exposure is because it is a complete non-story.
      Slut bangs crazed druggy, gets killed…..and now for the weather.

    46. desiree — on 19th January, 2006 at 6:40 pm  

      this is all crap i love eminem this is bs i agree with shady
      i want to meet eminem ya im obsessed mbut i would never kill anyone

    47. Don — on 19th January, 2006 at 6:51 pm  

      Oh, dear. Cockroaches creeping into the cellar again.

    48. tatiana — on 24th March, 2006 at 5:21 pm  

      I THINK EMINEM MOTS RETIRE HEMSELF,
      CHR. DUNCAN ARE A BIG STUPID BECAUSE EMINEM SAY WHAT HE WANTS BUT HE NEVER TOUCH A WOMEN.

      FUCK THE MEN.

    49. tatiana — on 3rd April, 2006 at 5:16 pm  

      CHR. DUNCAN DON’T LOVE HEM SELFS,
      IN OTHER PLACE HE THINK TWICE BEFORE HE COMMET SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THIS.

    50. tatiana — on 3rd April, 2006 at 5:19 pm  

      EMINEM DON’T HAVE CONSIENCE, BECAUSE IN ONE OF HEM SITES HE TELL THAT ‘THAT BOY MUST STILL DO WHAT HE DO AND HE MUST STILL SING HEM SONGS.

      I BLAME EMINEM

    51. mizzutti — on 4th April, 2006 at 5:47 pm  

      eminem are a big stupid,i always hate hem.

      EMINEM MUST STOP SING.

      I BLAME EMINEM TO.

      HE CRITIC HEM MOTHER BUT HIS FATHER IS NOT BETTER.AND WHY HE DON’T SING SO MANY SONGS FOR HIS FUCKING FATHER TO.
      CAUSE HE CAN ONLEY CRITIC WOMEN.
      I KNOW A MAN,HE LIKE HEM SONGS, HE WANTS ME BUT I DON’T WANNA BE WITH A FAN OF EMINEM,ONLEY FOR THAT REASON I DON’T LIKE HEM.EMINEM YOU COMMPLICATE THE WORLD.

    52. Vikrant — on 4th April, 2006 at 5:49 pm  

      Hell why do all eminem fans have faulty “caps lock” keys?

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