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		<title>By: S Loeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Loeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marvin - very, very surprised to hear this fella has a girlfriend. Very surprised indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvin &#8211; very, very surprised to hear this fella has a girlfriend. Very surprised indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108375</link>
		<dc:creator>marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/whereilive/streatham/display.var.2126810.0.witness_appeal_after_23yearold_is_shot_on_a_bus.php</description>
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		<title>By: marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108373</link>
		<dc:creator>marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of St Reatham, &lt;a&gt;more gun crime&lt;/a&gt;  (right next to where the shootout happened, with 16 bullet cases on the ground, and opposite the Ice Rink where a kid got shot in the head, oh and where a reveller exited the nightclub with a sub-machine gun)

Good luck to this fella if he gets elected. I debated politics with his girlfriend, nice girl.

I&#039;d like to know what&#039;s to be done about all this gun crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of St Reatham, <a>more gun crime</a>  (right next to where the shootout happened, with 16 bullet cases on the ground, and opposite the Ice Rink where a kid got shot in the head, oh and where a reveller exited the nightclub with a sub-machine gun)</p>
<p>Good luck to this fella if he gets elected. I debated politics with his girlfriend, nice girl.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know what&#8217;s to be done about all this gun crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108222</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sunny regarding multiple id&#039;s. Sonia, I&#039;m not sure why you&#039;re only talking skin colour when I qualified my point about him being black by mentioning understanding roots and culture...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sunny regarding multiple id&#8217;s. Sonia, I&#8217;m not sure why you&#8217;re only talking skin colour when I qualified my point about him being black by mentioning understanding roots and culture&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So I donâ€™t know that its much use to worry about the colour of the dictatorâ€™s skin..but if it makes some of us feel better about being led by someone who looks more like us, sure.&lt;/i&gt;

sonia - you&#039;re unfairly focusing on one aspect. We have multiple identities, remember? You sound like one of those right wing bloggers when one says people might vote for Obama based on his race. That is not the ONLY reason to support ethnic minority candidates. I wouldn&#039;t be supporting right-wingers for example, others more right wing won&#039;t like Compass candidates despite their ethnicity. Don&#039;t get too hung up over it. Jeez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So I donâ€™t know that its much use to worry about the colour of the dictatorâ€™s skin..but if it makes some of us feel better about being led by someone who looks more like us, sure.</i></p>
<p>sonia &#8211; you&#8217;re unfairly focusing on one aspect. We have multiple identities, remember? You sound like one of those right wing bloggers when one says people might vote for Obama based on his race. That is not the ONLY reason to support ethnic minority candidates. I wouldn&#8217;t be supporting right-wingers for example, others more right wing won&#8217;t like Compass candidates despite their ethnicity. Don&#8217;t get too hung up over it. Jeez.</p>
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		<title>By: fugstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fugstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like his shiny head and look forward to see his election moves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like his shiny head and look forward to see his election moves.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108149</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I don&#039;t know that its much use to worry about the colour of the dictator&#039;s skin..but if it makes some of us feel better about being led by someone who looks more like us, sure. History has shown us we don&#039;t mind being bossed around by those who look like us..but show us a different face and background, and boy then we don&#039;t like it. India is a good case in point - we always hear about empire, do people really think that the brits were the only imperialists in india? what was the caste system all about? people don&#039;t point to that - oh no- the maharajahs and the princes - why they were &quot;on top&quot; of &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; system - so that ws fine! and it was god-ordained - even better! kept us in place all those years...! and along come some foreigners, and oh then, we didn&#039;t like it as much. Made no real difference to the people at the bottom, whether you got a white man at the top, or some brown high-caste person..but it seemed to symbolically..or did it ever? the indian nationalists were never exactly low-caste people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I don&#8217;t know that its much use to worry about the colour of the dictator&#8217;s skin..but if it makes some of us feel better about being led by someone who looks more like us, sure. History has shown us we don&#8217;t mind being bossed around by those who look like us..but show us a different face and background, and boy then we don&#8217;t like it. India is a good case in point &#8211; we always hear about empire, do people really think that the brits were the only imperialists in india? what was the caste system all about? people don&#8217;t point to that &#8211; oh no- the maharajahs and the princes &#8211; why they were &#8220;on top&#8221; of <em>our</em> system &#8211; so that ws fine! and it was god-ordained &#8211; even better! kept us in place all those years&#8230;! and along come some foreigners, and oh then, we didn&#8217;t like it as much. Made no real difference to the people at the bottom, whether you got a white man at the top, or some brown high-caste person..but it seemed to symbolically..or did it ever? the indian nationalists were never exactly low-caste people.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and of course mrs. thatcher had an influence on this country - she was the bloody dictator for a good-ish while wasn&#039;t she? just because she was voted in -(by people who wanted to see some change!) doesn&#039;t change that fact...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and of course mrs. thatcher had an influence on this country &#8211; she was the bloody dictator for a good-ish while wasn&#8217;t she? just because she was voted in -(by people who wanted to see some change!) doesn&#8217;t change that fact&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12 - leon - of course, if chuka becomes the prime minister then sure..i was meaning while he is a puny MP who has to listen to the party whip..and lick ass if he wants to get to the top..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 &#8211; leon &#8211; of course, if chuka becomes the prime minister then sure..i was meaning while he is a puny MP who has to listen to the party whip..and lick ass if he wants to get to the top..</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108145</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frankly, this crazy system is basically voting for a dictator for a set term, that is what it is. Don&#039;t know why we can&#039;t call a spade a spade - if this is the system people are happy with - fine - but let&#039;s be honest!  

and the colour/sex of a leader never made any difference to anyone, has it? &quot;Monochrome&quot; societies have proved that definitively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frankly, this crazy system is basically voting for a dictator for a set term, that is what it is. Don&#8217;t know why we can&#8217;t call a spade a spade &#8211; if this is the system people are happy with &#8211; fine &#8211; but let&#8217;s be honest!  </p>
<p>and the colour/sex of a leader never made any difference to anyone, has it? &#8220;Monochrome&#8221; societies have proved that definitively.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108144</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the problem actually is - is giving person xyz and a a few of their &#039;followers&#039;- power to make decisions for all of us - on the basis of promises they make- when they are asking us to give us that power. The power is To do a specific set of jobs. And we are the employers! And it is all in our name! And we sit back, and when those in power do not do what they said they would - what can we do - nothing. Because we have given them silly amounts of power - and they are actually our RULERS by now, and we have to wait till the next round, and boom! we do it all over again with another lot of people. DOES NO ONE ELSE SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS SYSTEM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the problem actually is &#8211; is giving person xyz and a a few of their &#8216;followers&#8217;- power to make decisions for all of us &#8211; on the basis of promises they make- when they are asking us to give us that power. The power is To do a specific set of jobs. And we are the employers! And it is all in our name! And we sit back, and when those in power do not do what they said they would &#8211; what can we do &#8211; nothing. Because we have given them silly amounts of power &#8211; and they are actually our RULERS by now, and we have to wait till the next round, and boom! we do it all over again with another lot of people. DOES NO ONE ELSE SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS SYSTEM?</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108143</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it? Why? The representation thing is a farce really isn&#039;t it with our current system of governance. It&#039;s not like white males currently in power actually do something to help the white males who are not in power? they don&#039;t really give a damn apart from keeping themselves in power.  You can have a society of brown women who have similar party political systems, with the person who gets into power completely &quot;representative&quot; of the group - but yet, have the same problems of power - i.e. once they are in power, they are divorced from the reality of the people. And this is the problem of all societies who choose governance systems with &#039;leaders&#039;..and give the leaders all the power, once they are elected. Doesn&#039;t matter shit if the leaders are the same colour, sexuality, ethnicity, class as the people, it really doesn&#039;t ( look at the political problems a place like Bangladesh has if you don&#039;t believe me) - that is NOT the problem with our current system of governance. The &#039;parliament&#039; has to look like the people in society - is a red herring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it? Why? The representation thing is a farce really isn&#8217;t it with our current system of governance. It&#8217;s not like white males currently in power actually do something to help the white males who are not in power? they don&#8217;t really give a damn apart from keeping themselves in power.  You can have a society of brown women who have similar party political systems, with the person who gets into power completely &#8220;representative&#8221; of the group &#8211; but yet, have the same problems of power &#8211; i.e. once they are in power, they are divorced from the reality of the people. And this is the problem of all societies who choose governance systems with &#8216;leaders&#8217;..and give the leaders all the power, once they are elected. Doesn&#8217;t matter shit if the leaders are the same colour, sexuality, ethnicity, class as the people, it really doesn&#8217;t ( look at the political problems a place like Bangladesh has if you don&#8217;t believe me) &#8211; that is NOT the problem with our current system of governance. The &#8216;parliament&#8217; has to look like the people in society &#8211; is a red herring.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108140</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are too many lawyers in parliament.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are too many middle aged white men from privileged backgrounds too. 

There are not enough women, there are not enough younger people, and there are not enough working class people either. Parliament as it stands does not reflect the country it&#039;s meant to represent. 

Another lawyer who is black (and understands those roots and culture) may not be perfect but it&#039;s a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are too many lawyers in parliament.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are too many middle aged white men from privileged backgrounds too. </p>
<p>There are not enough women, there are not enough younger people, and there are not enough working class people either. Parliament as it stands does not reflect the country it&#8217;s meant to represent. </p>
<p>Another lawyer who is black (and understands those roots and culture) may not be perfect but it&#8217;s a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon you can&#039;t deny Thatchers affect on this country whether you liked her or not! It&#039;s not about whether she&#039;s in power now obviously, its about the effects of her policies while in power and how they were continued.

As for Chuka, I&#039;m sure once a General Election is called you&#039;ll have all the policy detail you need to decide whether you will vote for him if you&#039;re a Streatham resident at that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon you can&#8217;t deny Thatchers affect on this country whether you liked her or not! It&#8217;s not about whether she&#8217;s in power now obviously, its about the effects of her policies while in power and how they were continued.</p>
<p>As for Chuka, I&#8217;m sure once a General Election is called you&#8217;ll have all the policy detail you need to decide whether you will vote for him if you&#8217;re a Streatham resident at that time.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good questions Rumbold. Of course that&#039;s usually difficult to tell with any politician. and in the end does it make a difference what with the party system being what it is and the whips.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good questions Rumbold. Of course that&#8217;s usually difficult to tell with any politician. and in the end does it make a difference what with the party system being what it is and the whips.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1782#comment-108133</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I would be interested to know is what his policies are. On his website he simply states a number of broad statements (&#039;peaceful solutions&#039;, &#039;terrorism is bad&#039;), and intersperses this with statistics to show how wonderful the Labour Government is. Then he talks about widening income inequality over the last 15 years is bad, which appears to be Mrs. Thatcher&#039;s fault, despite her not being in office for 18 years.

He may indeed make a good MP, but what measures would he actually push for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would be interested to know is what his policies are. On his website he simply states a number of broad statements (&#8216;peaceful solutions&#8217;, &#8216;terrorism is bad&#8217;), and intersperses this with statistics to show how wonderful the Labour Government is. Then he talks about widening income inequality over the last 15 years is bad, which appears to be Mrs. Thatcher&#8217;s fault, despite her not being in office for 18 years.</p>
<p>He may indeed make a good MP, but what measures would he actually push for?</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon:

There are too many lawyers in parliament. Not that all lawyers are bad, just that it would be nice to draw our law-makers from a mix of professions, so that they have more experience of the world when making the law. How many Labour MPs have run their own business, or served in the army? How many Conservatives have worked in domestic violence centres?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon:</p>
<p>There are too many lawyers in parliament. Not that all lawyers are bad, just that it would be nice to draw our law-makers from a mix of professions, so that they have more experience of the world when making the law. How many Labour MPs have run their own business, or served in the army? How many Conservatives have worked in domestic violence centres?</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not elected yet! But yes another lawyer although one that maybe a little different from the usual given the type of law he practices...either way he represents a new generation (don&#039;t worry Rummy the Tories have their own coming up too) that are now starting to make their first breakthroughs. More of this to come from what I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not elected yet! But yes another lawyer although one that maybe a little different from the usual given the type of law he practices&#8230;either way he represents a new generation (don&#8217;t worry Rummy the Tories have their own coming up too) that are now starting to make their first breakthroughs. More of this to come from what I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another lawyer in Parliament. Oh good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another lawyer in Parliament. Oh good.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuka has put up a short note of thanks on his campaign blog: http://www.chuka4streatham.com/?p=153</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuka has put up a short note of thanks on his campaign blog: <a href="http://www.chuka4streatham.com/?p=153" rel="nofollow">http://www.chuka4streatham.com/?p=153</a></p>
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