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		<title>By: Jet</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-109230</link>
		<dc:creator>Jet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mehdi is not completely safe yet and he needs all the support he can get!

Please visit http://www.madhikazemi.com/ and
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/UKMADHI/signatures.html as well.

Thnx in advance,

Jet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mehdi is not completely safe yet and he needs all the support he can get!</p>
<p>Please visit <a href="http://www.madhikazemi.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.madhikazemi.com/</a> and<br />
<a href="http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/UKMADHI/signatures.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/UKMADHI/signatures.html</a> as well.</p>
<p>Thnx in advance,</p>
<p>Jet</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107678</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>68 good question bananabrain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>68 good question bananabrain</p>
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		<title>By: ZinZin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107658</link>
		<dc:creator>ZinZin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It might not come to anything but it would be fun to watch&quot;

One day..One day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It might not come to anything but it would be fun to watch&#8221;</p>
<p>One day..One day</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107640</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZinZin:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;He should be sued for defamation.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It might not come to anything but it would be fun to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZinZin:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;He should be sued for defamation.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It might not come to anything but it would be fun to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107634</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you need to realise that Galloway is now being paid by the Iranian Regime through Press TV.

Remember his attitude to the sex criminal Uday Hussein.
He grovelled and referred to him as &quot;Your Excellency&quot;
Months later the cash began to flow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you need to realise that Galloway is now being paid by the Iranian Regime through Press TV.</p>
<p>Remember his attitude to the sex criminal Uday Hussein.<br />
He grovelled and referred to him as &#8220;Your Excellency&#8221;<br />
Months later the cash began to flow.</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107632</link>
		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i personally would like to know if his humanitarian principles extend as far as supporting the right of a future islamist government to [re-]introduce slavery as provided for in shari&#039;a!

b&#039;shalom

bananabrain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i personally would like to know if his humanitarian principles extend as far as supporting the right of a future islamist government to [re-]introduce slavery as provided for in shari&#8217;a!</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
<p>bananabrain</p>
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		<title>By: ZinZin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107614</link>
		<dc:creator>ZinZin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumbold
I don&#039;t think anyone doubts the existence of Galloway&#039;s humanitarian credentials. The man is a homophobe and his dissembling is appalling. He should be sued for defamation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumbold<br />
I don&#8217;t think anyone doubts the existence of Galloway&#8217;s humanitarian credentials. The man is a homophobe and his dissembling is appalling. He should be sued for defamation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107601</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Galloway is now smearing the dead boyfriend of Mehdi Kazemi. Apparently Iran is nice to homosexuals (if it even has any), and the boyfriend was executed for &#039;sex crimes&#039;. This a common slur used by Iran and other regimes who want to kill homosexuals. The other common one is to arrest people for &#039;terrorist offences&#039;, knowing that there then will not be much protest.

Video here:

http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2008/03/13/galloway_shills_for_iranian_gallows.php

Just when you think he cannot sink any lower, he does. If dark-skinned Muslims said half the things he said they would be under arrest and charged with glorifying terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Galloway is now smearing the dead boyfriend of Mehdi Kazemi. Apparently Iran is nice to homosexuals (if it even has any), and the boyfriend was executed for &#8216;sex crimes&#8217;. This a common slur used by Iran and other regimes who want to kill homosexuals. The other common one is to arrest people for &#8216;terrorist offences&#8217;, knowing that there then will not be much protest.</p>
<p>Video here:</p>
<p><a href="http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2008/03/13/galloway_shills_for_iranian_gallows.php" rel="nofollow">http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2008/03/13/galloway_shills_for_iranian_gallows.php</a></p>
<p>Just when you think he cannot sink any lower, he does. If dark-skinned Muslims said half the things he said they would be under arrest and charged with glorifying terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy Newton</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107579</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess credibility would come into it if there was some reason for believing that this man wasn&#039;t really gay or didn&#039;t really have a boyfriend who had named him as his lover.  There are undoubtedly immigrants who lie about their circumstances to get leave to stay.  Hell, there are immigrants who lie about which country they came from.  An interpreter told me that a lot of the time she was called in to interpret for people from, say, Iraq, and it would be immediately obvious to her that the person she was speaking to hadn&#039;t even been there on holiday.  So in that sense, yes, credibility is an issue.  But if what this boy says is true I do not understand how anyone could think it would be right to send him back to be executed and as far as I&#039;m concerned that&#039;s the end of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess credibility would come into it if there was some reason for believing that this man wasn&#8217;t really gay or didn&#8217;t really have a boyfriend who had named him as his lover.  There are undoubtedly immigrants who lie about their circumstances to get leave to stay.  Hell, there are immigrants who lie about which country they came from.  An interpreter told me that a lot of the time she was called in to interpret for people from, say, Iraq, and it would be immediately obvious to her that the person she was speaking to hadn&#8217;t even been there on holiday.  So in that sense, yes, credibility is an issue.  But if what this boy says is true I do not understand how anyone could think it would be right to send him back to be executed and as far as I&#8217;m concerned that&#8217;s the end of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107578</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldnâ€™t agree more. No offence taken.

Concept of seed is still important in Eastern societies for inheritance purposes. It used to be important in Europe till recently. Hell, the treason laws in the UK still class having sexual intercourse with the wife or eldest unmarried daughter of the reigning monarch as treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldnâ€™t agree more. No offence taken.</p>
<p>Concept of seed is still important in Eastern societies for inheritance purposes. It used to be important in Europe till recently. Hell, the treason laws in the UK still class having sexual intercourse with the wife or eldest unmarried daughter of the reigning monarch as treason.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107577</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wasting seed? most hetereosexuals are wankers anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wasting seed? most hetereosexuals are wankers anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107575</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m not suggesting you are stupid Ashiq, in case you get the wrong idea, but suggesting that the obsession with &quot;seed&quot; is stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not suggesting you are stupid Ashiq, in case you get the wrong idea, but suggesting that the obsession with &#8220;seed&#8221; is stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes there are plenty of examples of closed societies and their transgressions. It does not excuse any of it. 

And it is also pretty stupid about &#039;wasting seed&#039; because the human race is = if anything - in danger of dying out because of over-population, not underpopulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are plenty of examples of closed societies and their transgressions. It does not excuse any of it. </p>
<p>And it is also pretty stupid about &#8216;wasting seed&#8217; because the human race is = if anything &#8211; in danger of dying out because of over-population, not underpopulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107555</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itâ€™s probably fair to say homosexuality is severely punished in closed societies where deviation from the norm is frowned on. 

I think Abrahamic faiths abhor homosexuality mainly because of the implications for procreation rather than just for being gay. Hence the severe punishments in the Quran/Bible. A middle ages Pope once said that it was better that a man rapes a nun than that he masturbates because at least he is not wasting his seed! 

Homosexuality was also severely punished in Secular countries like the Ex-Soviet Union. Weird since Communism was supposed to be about sexual and gender equality (and was relatively speaking in places like Communist Afghanistan).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itâ€™s probably fair to say homosexuality is severely punished in closed societies where deviation from the norm is frowned on. </p>
<p>I think Abrahamic faiths abhor homosexuality mainly because of the implications for procreation rather than just for being gay. Hence the severe punishments in the Quran/Bible. A middle ages Pope once said that it was better that a man rapes a nun than that he masturbates because at least he is not wasting his seed! </p>
<p>Homosexuality was also severely punished in Secular countries like the Ex-Soviet Union. Weird since Communism was supposed to be about sexual and gender equality (and was relatively speaking in places like Communist Afghanistan).</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107503</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes let&#039;s not talk about mehdi &#039;bhai&#039; -why that would be using him! so let us ignore him, leave him to his fate, and reconcile ourselves to his no doubt sure torture and death - that would be the honourable, not-using, thing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes let&#8217;s not talk about mehdi &#8216;bhai&#8217; -why that would be using him! so let us ignore him, leave him to his fate, and reconcile ourselves to his no doubt sure torture and death &#8211; that would be the honourable, not-using, thing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107462</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;iâ€™m interested in this to the extent of finding a better answer to the question â€˜What ways can sexual morality and chastity be maintained and improved amongst the beleivers, without tired social techniques like boycotting and legalese?â€™&lt;/em&gt;

Why should &quot;sexual morality and chastity&quot; in Iran, and for you that means reducing homosesual actvity I&#039;m sure, be &quot;maintained&quot; by Westerners recoiling in horror at the lynching of gays? 

This is analoguous to saying, 

&quot;iâ€™m interested in this to the extent of finding a better answer to the question of improved human rights and freedom  amongst the beleivers, by bringing the word of god to bear on homosexuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>iâ€™m interested in this to the extent of finding a better answer to the question â€˜What ways can sexual morality and chastity be maintained and improved amongst the beleivers, without tired social techniques like boycotting and legalese?â€™</em></p>
<p>Why should &#8220;sexual morality and chastity&#8221; in Iran, and for you that means reducing homosesual actvity I&#8217;m sure, be &#8220;maintained&#8221; by Westerners recoiling in horror at the lynching of gays? </p>
<p>This is analoguous to saying, </p>
<p>&#8220;iâ€™m interested in this to the extent of finding a better answer to the question of improved human rights and freedom  amongst the beleivers, by bringing the word of god to bear on homosexuals.</p>
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		<title>By: fugstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fugstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>56
Some folks, prolly myself included, have a tendancy to use other people&#039;s problems for their own intellectual self pleasurement. should be avoided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>56<br />
Some folks, prolly myself included, have a tendancy to use other people&#8217;s problems for their own intellectual self pleasurement. should be avoided.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1758#comment-107458</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Dont let these people use you.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Dont let these people use you.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>?</p>
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		<title>By: fugstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>fugstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mehdi bhai, try canada. dont let these people use you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mehdi bhai, try canada. dont let these people use you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fugstar:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If something is regarded as wrong in the religion i hold, im not going to change the religion. Whatâ€™s a crime against god in the muslim view, isnt a crime against me and doesnt concern me all that much. State doesnt interest me as much as society. So the denial of freedom thing isnt my objective. I dont know why you got that impression, was it anything i said? or was it stuff that rhymes with what i said? I donâ€™t apply my view (as if thats ever important) outside the community that holds the religious belief.

iâ€™m interested in this to the extent of finding a better answer to the question â€˜What ways can sexual morality and chastity be maintained and improved amongst the beleivers, without tired social techniques like boycotting and legalese?â€™&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, if you don&#039;t want homosexual acts to be prohibited by law then I apologise for the misunderstanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fugstar:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If something is regarded as wrong in the religion i hold, im not going to change the religion. Whatâ€™s a crime against god in the muslim view, isnt a crime against me and doesnt concern me all that much. State doesnt interest me as much as society. So the denial of freedom thing isnt my objective. I dont know why you got that impression, was it anything i said? or was it stuff that rhymes with what i said? I donâ€™t apply my view (as if thats ever important) outside the community that holds the religious belief.</p>
<p>iâ€™m interested in this to the extent of finding a better answer to the question â€˜What ways can sexual morality and chastity be maintained and improved amongst the beleivers, without tired social techniques like boycotting and legalese?â€™&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, if you don&#8217;t want homosexual acts to be prohibited by law then I apologise for the misunderstanding.</p>
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