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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106950</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting all these anecdotes.

p.s. thara it&#039;s most interesting that there are people out there who think the term dhakaiya was coined by british bangladeshis. its an interesting link to find out more about the context of the usage here in england amongst people here. ( very revealing too - explains why people insisting they&#039;re not actually from dhaka at all falls on deaf ears!)

But there are other contexts dating way back -  perhaps i should point out that there is usage of the term dhakaiya e.g. &#039;dhakaiya kutti&#039; dating back to the 16th/17th century, referring to a specific group of people who started living in dhaka as it was then,  and the dialect that sprang up with said group. and other more recent uses of the term dhakaiya to refer to general colloquialisms that dhaka youth use etc. etc. 

 so umm..i understand the specific usage here in england, hence the entry in the &#039;urban&#039; dictionary for current youth lingo,  but it&#039;s hardly been &#039;coined&#039; - &quot;appropriated&quot; would be more accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting all these anecdotes.</p>
<p>p.s. thara it&#8217;s most interesting that there are people out there who think the term dhakaiya was coined by british bangladeshis. its an interesting link to find out more about the context of the usage here in england amongst people here. ( very revealing too &#8211; explains why people insisting they&#8217;re not actually from dhaka at all falls on deaf ears!)</p>
<p>But there are other contexts dating way back &#8211;  perhaps i should point out that there is usage of the term dhakaiya e.g. &#8216;dhakaiya kutti&#8217; dating back to the 16th/17th century, referring to a specific group of people who started living in dhaka as it was then,  and the dialect that sprang up with said group. and other more recent uses of the term dhakaiya to refer to general colloquialisms that dhaka youth use etc. etc. </p>
<p> so umm..i understand the specific usage here in england, hence the entry in the &#8216;urban&#8217; dictionary for current youth lingo,  but it&#8217;s hardly been &#8216;coined&#8217; &#8211; &#8220;appropriated&#8221; would be more accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruzi</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106914</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh Dhaka people in this country get so paranoid. They can&#039;t find themselves a position in the diaspora Bengalis in this country. so they get obsessive about maintainig a hypothetical bengali culture n lingo based around events of &#039;71. They think coming from dhaka town where they drive second hand Toyota Corollas and go to theatres and join these useless corrupt parties makes them exprerts on bengali people. Most of who regardless of region have nothing to do with them,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh Dhaka people in this country get so paranoid. They can&#8217;t find themselves a position in the diaspora Bengalis in this country. so they get obsessive about maintainig a hypothetical bengali culture n lingo based around events of &#8217;71. They think coming from dhaka town where they drive second hand Toyota Corollas and go to theatres and join these useless corrupt parties makes them exprerts on bengali people. Most of who regardless of region have nothing to do with them,</p>
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		<title>By: thara</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106609</link>
		<dc:creator>thara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urban dictionary definition of a Dhakaiya:

Dhakaiya 
 
A somewhat derogatory definition coined by the British Bangladeshi diaspora community (hailing predminantly from the Greater Sylhet region of Bangladesh) to describe Non-Sylheti Bangladeshis from the other regions of the country, particularly the capital Dhaka.

In common usage &#039;Dhakaiya&#039; describes recently arrived first generation Non-Sylhetis who are overly conscious of class, caste and prestige. Typically, Dhakaiyas have an over-inflated idea that they are better educated and &#039;cultured&#039; than Sylhetis. This despite speaking &#039;but-but&#039; Empire English circa 1945. Dhakaiyas also make great efforts to deny the Sylheti language it&#039;s due respect and insist it is only a &#039;colloquial dialect&#039;. 

Sociologists believe that this behaviour is in reaction to the fact that Sylhetis of the second and third generation tend to be comparatively well off and integrated into British society through their extended families. Thus creating insecurities for Dhakaiyas. In addition Sylhetis have created a vibrant Sylheti community in Britain, often unaccessable to Dhakaiyas. For example, ChannelS TV, Sylheti newspapers, mosques, community centres and airlines (Air Sylhet &amp; Royal Bengal Tiger Airline). 
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dhakaiya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urban dictionary definition of a Dhakaiya:</p>
<p>Dhakaiya </p>
<p>A somewhat derogatory definition coined by the British Bangladeshi diaspora community (hailing predminantly from the Greater Sylhet region of Bangladesh) to describe Non-Sylheti Bangladeshis from the other regions of the country, particularly the capital Dhaka.</p>
<p>In common usage &#8216;Dhakaiya&#8217; describes recently arrived first generation Non-Sylhetis who are overly conscious of class, caste and prestige. Typically, Dhakaiyas have an over-inflated idea that they are better educated and &#8216;cultured&#8217; than Sylhetis. This despite speaking &#8216;but-but&#8217; Empire English circa 1945. Dhakaiyas also make great efforts to deny the Sylheti language it&#8217;s due respect and insist it is only a &#8216;colloquial dialect&#8217;. </p>
<p>Sociologists believe that this behaviour is in reaction to the fact that Sylhetis of the second and third generation tend to be comparatively well off and integrated into British society through their extended families. Thus creating insecurities for Dhakaiyas. In addition Sylhetis have created a vibrant Sylheti community in Britain, often unaccessable to Dhakaiyas. For example, ChannelS TV, Sylheti newspapers, mosques, community centres and airlines (Air Sylhet &amp; Royal Bengal Tiger Airline). </p>
<p><a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dhakaiya" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dhakaiya</a></p>
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		<title>By: thara</title>
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		<dc:creator>thara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny boy

Don&#039;t you get tired of accusing asians of every sin under the sun? If bloggers took you and pickled politics seriously theyd  think that all asians ever do is engage in oppressing women and islamic fundamentalism. 

Pakistan? What about palestine, algeria, jordan and syria. Whenever islamic parties win elections you pseudo liberal hypocrits start crying and support military response. and no, you&#039;re a indian sikh, so you cant speak for sylhetis or muslims from experience. Thats a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny boy</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you get tired of accusing asians of every sin under the sun? If bloggers took you and pickled politics seriously theyd  think that all asians ever do is engage in oppressing women and islamic fundamentalism. </p>
<p>Pakistan? What about palestine, algeria, jordan and syria. Whenever islamic parties win elections you pseudo liberal hypocrits start crying and support military response. and no, you&#8217;re a indian sikh, so you cant speak for sylhetis or muslims from experience. Thats a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Ros</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106607</link>
		<dc:creator>Ros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s this thread about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s this thread about?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106597</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;pointing out the absurdity of this thread&lt;/i&gt;

Well that started when the village idiot, and his mate fugstar, started accusing others of being &quot;sellouts&quot; again. 

I&#039;m only talking to stupid people in their own language. It&#039;s not like he has any intelligent point to make other than: &quot;Oh look, you don&#039;t represent mainstream Asian/Sylheti/village opinion so you people are sellouts. Rah rah look at me I want some attention for my opinions.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>pointing out the absurdity of this thread</i></p>
<p>Well that started when the village idiot, and his mate fugstar, started accusing others of being &#8220;sellouts&#8221; again. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m only talking to stupid people in their own language. It&#8217;s not like he has any intelligent point to make other than: &#8220;Oh look, you don&#8217;t represent mainstream Asian/Sylheti/village opinion so you people are sellouts. Rah rah look at me I want some attention for my opinions.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106593</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not whining - pointing out the absurdity of this thread (or as it has become).

But do have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not whining &#8211; pointing out the absurdity of this thread (or as it has become).</p>
<p>But do have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;has given rise to the electoral supremacy of Islam-light AKP party&lt;/i&gt;

maybe the politics classes in the village aren&#039;t up to scratch. How about the drubbing the Islamist parties got in Pakistan? 

But then, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is from the village isn&#039;t he? And he remains an idiot, standing up for all the village idiots. Carry on, you&#039;re funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>has given rise to the electoral supremacy of Islam-light AKP party</i></p>
<p>maybe the politics classes in the village aren&#8217;t up to scratch. How about the drubbing the Islamist parties got in Pakistan? </p>
<p>But then, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is from the village isn&#8217;t he? And he remains an idiot, standing up for all the village idiots. Carry on, you&#8217;re funny!</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh stop whining Refresh, I&#039;m enjoying needling this village idiot.

&lt;i&gt;Better a villager than a soapy Asian.&lt;/i&gt;

You would say that wouldn&#039;t you, is mummy still making your chapattis for you? Why not go sit back on your donkey and head back to the &quot;brown brothers&quot; so you can put up pictures of the nasty white man and throw darts at his head. That&#039;s the only way to vent your frustration at the world leaving you behind isn&#039;t it?

fugstar and ashik - the YMCA village boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh stop whining Refresh, I&#8217;m enjoying needling this village idiot.</p>
<p><i>Better a villager than a soapy Asian.</i></p>
<p>You would say that wouldn&#8217;t you, is mummy still making your chapattis for you? Why not go sit back on your donkey and head back to the &#8220;brown brothers&#8221; so you can put up pictures of the nasty white man and throw darts at his head. That&#8217;s the only way to vent your frustration at the world leaving you behind isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>fugstar and ashik &#8211; the YMCA village boys.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106578</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we need a weekend thread people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we need a weekend thread people!</p>
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		<title>By: fugstar</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106577</link>
		<dc:creator>fugstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>80s pop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>80s pop</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106574</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Rumbold, yes it could get ugly, but think what fun it could be as well..&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If we could get Douglas Clark down for a wee dramm of whisky, that would be the icing on the cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonia:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Rumbold, yes it could get ugly, but think what fun it could be as well..&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If we could get Douglas Clark down for a wee dramm of whisky, that would be the icing on the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumbold, yes it could get ugly, but think what fun it could be as well..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumbold, yes it could get ugly, but think what fun it could be as well..</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106571</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ork</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ork</p>
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		<title>By: fugstar</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106569</link>
		<dc:creator>fugstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hobbit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hobbit</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106568</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whereas yours are as dull as ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whereas yours are as dull as ever.</p>
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		<title>By: fugstar</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106567</link>
		<dc:creator>fugstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arent there some beans you should be counting?


PPs true colours shining bright as ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arent there some beans you should be counting?</p>
<p>PPs true colours shining bright as ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1753#comment-106564</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refresh, Sunny and Sid reckon their village days behind them. The trail of soap remains. 

Seriously tho, the urban-rural tension you mention is there throughout the subcontinent and even wider afield. In Turkey the rural drift to the cities and the consequent strain on housing and education, transport etc as well as identity issues has given rise to the electoral supremacy of Islam-light AKP party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refresh, Sunny and Sid reckon their village days behind them. The trail of soap remains. </p>
<p>Seriously tho, the urban-rural tension you mention is there throughout the subcontinent and even wider afield. In Turkey the rural drift to the cities and the consequent strain on housing and education, transport etc as well as identity issues has given rise to the electoral supremacy of Islam-light AKP party.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;You know what Rumbold, i was thinking maybe we should trial PP nights at the pub, whaddya think?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With no preview function, things could get ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonia:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;You know what Rumbold, i was thinking maybe we should trial PP nights at the pub, whaddya think?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>With no preview function, things could get ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Unlike you Sid I aint fathering a cricket team.&lt;/em&gt;

All the more Child Benefit for you then, eh? Doubt it will prevent you from indulging the old Benefit Fraud that your District is so famous for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Unlike you Sid I aint fathering a cricket team.</em></p>
<p>All the more Child Benefit for you then, eh? Doubt it will prevent you from indulging the old Benefit Fraud that your District is so famous for.</p>
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