Interesting point and one the race industry never admit to. Although I use the initials BME in fact the whole thing is a massive fraud, the idea that there is any unity of interests between the hundreds of ethnic groups in the country is nonsense and many are equally intolerant of other supposed members of the group.

As far as I can make out the scam started about ten years ago and was dreamed up by another of the Jasper organization Operation Black Vote. I have come across Asians who are openly racist towards people of African descent and call them Bandoor Lokh or in Syhleti Bandoor Manus, monkey people. There is no unity of interests between the three main religions of the sub continent in the UK and there is no reason why their should be.

The reason why non of this is mentioned is that the race industry is a business and the money lies with the state which has to be forced to hand it over. There is no financial mileage in pointing out that West Africans look down on Jamaicans and call them slaves.

What is good is that whereas people were to frightened to take on the Lee Jaspers and all of the other crooks and hustlers it is now open season on them which can only be healthy for all of us.

I give this contact everywhere I post http://www.hopenotehate.org.uk. Get involved we need peopleon the streets handing out the anti BNP literature. Tomorrow it’s Camden and there is free food and a free Billy Bragg concert. Be there or be square!

I saw the rise of the far right in my area in the early sixties. Our area was full of it, it had been a stronghold of the British Union of Fascists in the thirties and my family remembered that.

My family being English/Irish travelers was more or less immune from racism but people I went to school with became open fascists after the National Front was formed in 1967.

I was active against them through that decade and then when they collapsed after the Tories got in 1979 scaled down my involvement and went into business building although I still had all my old contacts from the street fighting days.

The rot set in as far as I am concerned when Ken Livingstone arried out a coup just after Labour won the old GLC in May 1981. He was heavily influenced by a group called Socialist Action which had formulated a theory that white people, and particularly the white working class, were racist and the revolution was to be made by ethnic minorities, disabled people, Gays and old uncle Tom Cobley and all. Any one but whitey!

Livingstone began to fund any group that said it was oppressed and this is where a whole series of ethnic minority and left wing hustlers began to appear. The next thing was that the loony left began to take over councils, Hackney was one, and political correctness went mad. I was asked to tender for building work on Hackney Council but was told that my workforce had to reflect the community and I had to employ ethnic minorities even if they couldn’t lay bricks or rewire a house.

All my white employees had to take Race Awareness Training for which I would have to pay and guess who was running the courses, the same black loony left who were setting up the council and GLC funded equality schemes. Linda Bellos mad a fortune out of it. It seems impossible now but white people were demoted and lost their jobs because they asked for black or white coffee. The mere accusation of racism and an enquiry was launched. I told Hacknet Council where iit could stuff there contract and stayed in the private sector and doing my own developements. Over the years I employed many black and Asian people but they were good at their jobs and some are friends to this day.

This was the background that the Lee Jaspers came from. A reign of terror where white people kept their heads down while Livingston poured money into groups that spouted anti white and anti Jewish racial hatred.

I first came across Jasper when one of his front groups either the National Black Alliance or the National Black Caucus, I can’t remember as there were so many, announced a march through Bermondsey in South London, then as now a largely white area, to prtest against racial attacks. They had brought over Al Sharpton from the States and when they marched into the area they were absolutely smashed by NF/Combat 18.

I remember Jasper running down Southwark Park Rd as fast as his little legs to hide behind the police as the whites went on the rampage attacking any ethnic minorities they could find.He had been told by experienced anti fascists to call the thing off but his attitude was there were no no go areas for black militants like himself.

I kept in touch with the anti fascist movement through the nineties as did a few older people who had gone through the sixties and seventies and who were either in business like me or in the professions and we would provide what help we could.

What we saw develop from our voluntary movement was a huge anti white money making racket with Jasper in the middle of it. The man has never got off his backside to do anything unless there was money in it.

It is wrong as some of those posting to say that he has been persecuted by Gilligan and the Standard, instead ask yourselves are the allegations true or not, where has the money gone and who in the black communities of London has benefited? The beneficiaries are a handful of Jasper’s mates, over twenty years of money being poured into these scams and African Caribbeans are as badly off as ever.

Well done Sunny, you have taken on a difficult subject that a lot of people didn’t want to touch. Lastly on the subject of the Daily Mail. It’s not a paper I read but remember it was the only one under David English who followed the Stephen Lawrence case and called the five accused murderers.

Gawd Almighty is this what the English language is reduced to. You’d all be better off writing poetry.

1) Britain’s dominant discourse is sustained by a bunch of rightwing columnists like Rod Liddle. They are given ample space in the billionaire press to villify and malign individuals and groups of their choice with immunity. Their views are read (and no doubt internalised) by millions.

2) But the victims and their sympathisers are rarely allowed equal (or any) space to defend themselves and present their case. They can’t complaint – the IPCC is a joke. So they vent their fury and drop expletives like scumbag in their ghetto press or blogs, which the offenders have not heard of. And they end up slinging mud at each other. Sad but inevitable.

3) The urgent issue is: how to get some mainstream space and representation! Figures like Sunny , Lenny Henry or Meera Syal have raised the matter but nobody up there is listening. In the British scheme of things, ethnics are supposed to remain in their place, like true post-colonials.

4) So what else do the ethnics do? In their frustration, they stir up their inter-communal differences. Bashing Muslims and Sikhs is a favourite -never the white working class or the toffs or the police.

5) Time to leave the ghetto and challenge the policies of mainstream institutions like the Home Office, police and the obnoxious tabloids. They have the power and when it is misused, we get injustices of which we are the victims.
So it is time to interact with those that matter. Leave fellow ethnics and their petty differences alone.
[End of homily]

which smacks of spite and envy to me..

RAMIIE

Give it a rest Refresh, that’s your answer every time I say something you don’t like. I know exactly what I’m saying – I’ve been saying it for ages. For lack of an adequate response, this is your best comeback. I don’t normally agree with marvin but he was spot on. You can’t see yourself as anything else but a victim. As for the village boy, well I can’t really help fugstar.

swaraj – good points mate, and let’s not forget Yasmin Alibhai’s columns in the Indy every week. But I forget, most Asians are spineless and cowards right?

Ros hasn’t even come back to me on Rod Liddle. Are we still Daily Mail lover Ros? Tell me, I’m dying to hear you tell THE TRUTH.

Ros, please get your facts right. There are many Asians who stand up for what they believe in. Baroness Verma does lots on Human Rights and forced marriages; Baroness Warsi also speaks on subjects that concern her; Lord Ahmed does his bit; they’re just a few. As you don’t hear their voices why don’t they count?? So, you’re saying that Asians have to speak out publicly to be admired, championed?? Obviously, those that work effectively behind the scenes are not as good in your skewed view of the world!

‘Everyone’s playing the race card Refresh – including you.’

Don’t think so.

But you’ve got to admit Marvin was being less than honest.

I don’t think you are playing the card, but I do think there is every chance you are being played.

Of course its boring. That’s the problem with the moral high ground.

Everyone’s playing the race card Refresh – including you. Please stop trying to take the high moral ground. It’s getting rather boring.

Doesn’t their silence on these grave issues suggest they are cowards or do you prefer the term opportunistic or pragmatic? (Keith Vaz is an exception of sorts among politicians.)
How many Asians with some POWER have the courage to stand up publicly against injustices and criticise the establishment? The other Asians don’t count as we never hear their voices anyway.

‘The rest of you attacking Sunny, cos he is brown, and not sticking up for a brown brother, regardless of his actions, well it’s fucking pathetic.’

Surely you are not playing the ‘race-card’ on Sunny’s behalf, given your post at #26?

Now that is pathetic!

Lee Jasper was shown up in the media for cronyism, and being part of Ken’s little clique. Ken has spent a lot of time being Mayor of London, and over that time has pissed a lot of people off. He’s employed 60 of his closest friends at the GLA.

Why isn’t the campaign against Ken racist? Cos the whole focus is not on race you fucking num nuts. And he’s white. It’s on Ken and 60 of his closest friends.

Lee Jasper, as exactly the opportunist Ken would do if he were Brown, immediately attacked the media as ‘racist’ for picking up on his dodgy deals.

Pathetic!

Sunny, I do take my hat off to you for your “asiatic balls of steel”!!!

The rest of you attacking Sunny, cos he is brown, and not sticking up for a brown brother, regardless of his actions, well it’s fucking pathetic.

(2) I dont find your asian generalisation resembles my reality though, but i see where you are coming from.

hmm,
Sunny Pindu, was it just too difficult to read on one sentence and hold both ideas in your head at the same time?

Its titles ‘Good riddance Lee Jasper’, not quite the acknowledgement of his work.

As for having done his time – are we really sure?

Now you may think that just because a person has done his/her time, it gives them the right to stick around forever. This is probably why you’re so protective about the “community leaders” who are happy to protect their own power bases while refusing to give the youngsters a voice or any representation.

either way a new generation, rooted in the realities of today, needs to arise.

I’ve also repeatedly stated that I don’t want to become another career “race relations expert”. If I do, I hope to god someone kicks me out and takes over the discussions once I’m past it. I know so much about what goes on behind the scenes that one could write a whole book about it. There’s a lot more that will undoubtedly come out of the GLA.

Your comments perhaps stem from the fact that you were not here when most of the serious political battles around race and discrimination (or for that matter, gender equality and gay rights) were being fought. Lee and many many others deserve to be recognised for their work and how they managed to frame the issues – correctly for the time.

You and the rest of us are net beneficiaries of that work. I am quite keen to see how you and others who were not part of the political scene of the 80’s and 90’s view those of us who were.

And it seems to me you like what came out of it.

I see your attacks as that of a newcomer taking on the old-guard and so frame the issues in a different way. That’s fine. Although I have to say its probably more to do with finding a gap in the market. I don’t decry that, because for all I know you may have seen something the rest of us haven’t. But it would be a tragedy to assume that it was always as you think you found it.

Right now I simply see you marking out your territory, and hope your contributions to come, will be relevant and worthwhile. My recommendation would be that there is plenty to be learnt from the hard work that has gone before.

Lee Jasper should be recognised for his efforts. As for his presumed ‘fall from grace’, well what do you expect. Its politics after all.

No doubt your day too will come.

http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1026

I can’t remember the last time I took Rod Liddle seriously. He’s an odious scumbag. What that has to do with this I don’t know. The fact of the matter is, you (Ros) are as racist as the people you condemn. As soon as some criticism of Jasper comes out, you’re happily calling all Asians cowardly and deviant. That’s really going to get you plaudits.