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		<title>By: car classic insurance</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-17152</link>
		<dc:creator>car classic insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice site. I can tell you put some effort into making it! I added you to my internet favorites for future reference. Great comments and all around terrific site! From, David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice site. I can tell you put some effort into making it! I added you to my internet favorites for future reference. Great comments and all around terrific site! From, David</p>
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		<title>By: cannabis</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-14379</link>
		<dc:creator>cannabis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey you! What a kewl blog, do you own any other blogs? I would love to see them too. Maybe you would like to see mine its about all kinds of herbs, you can find it here: http://www.herbalsmokeshop.be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey you! What a kewl blog, do you own any other blogs? I would love to see them too. Maybe you would like to see mine its about all kinds of herbs, you can find it here: <a href="http://www.herbalsmokeshop.be" rel="nofollow">http://www.herbalsmokeshop.be</a></p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-6093</link>
		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nice to hear some rational, reasonable comment from muslims over this issue. I tuned in ‘cos I thought that you were all going to be planning to torch BK!

Freethought forever! &lt;/i&gt;

I know wicked ain&#039;t it?! 

Power to PP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nice to hear some rational, reasonable comment from muslims over this issue. I tuned in ‘cos I thought that you were all going to be planning to torch BK!</p>
<p>Freethought forever! </i></p>
<p>I know wicked ain&#8217;t it?! </p>
<p>Power to PP</p>
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		<title>By: The atheist</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-6092</link>
		<dc:creator>The atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to hear some rational, reasonable comment from muslims over this issue. I tuned in &#039;cos I thought that you were all going to be planning to torch BK!

Freethought forever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to hear some rational, reasonable comment from muslims over this issue. I tuned in &#8216;cos I thought that you were all going to be planning to torch BK!</p>
<p>Freethought forever!</p>
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		<title>By: Inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5804</link>
		<dc:creator>Inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or perhaps we could threaten to give up Islam if BK doesn&#039;t give up the design, or, promise to continue being Muslims if the Arabs come up with a new inscription to symbolise and iconicise &#039;God&#039;.  After all, if Muslims didn&#039;t believe in statues, we shouldn&#039;t take offence when what is supposed to be a mere word bears resemblance to BK&#039;s cone should we?  

If we do, that would mean that the word, &#039;Allah&#039;, is no different from the statues adorning the various temples and churches in its value to the flock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps we could threaten to give up Islam if BK doesn&#8217;t give up the design, or, promise to continue being Muslims if the Arabs come up with a new inscription to symbolise and iconicise &#8216;God&#8217;.  After all, if Muslims didn&#8217;t believe in statues, we shouldn&#8217;t take offence when what is supposed to be a mere word bears resemblance to BK&#8217;s cone should we?  </p>
<p>If we do, that would mean that the word, &#8216;Allah&#8217;, is no different from the statues adorning the various temples and churches in its value to the flock.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5410</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you seem quite fond of banning. why not ban christmas while we&#039;re at it. oooh no we&#039;re quite happy to have a holiday...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you seem quite fond of banning. why not ban christmas while we&#8217;re at it. oooh no we&#8217;re quite happy to have a holiday&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kalyaa</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5408</link>
		<dc:creator>kalyaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it reesembles a religious symbol, which it does then yes surely it should be banned. why make a big fuss about it when banning it is the most cost effective method both personally and financially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it reesembles a religious symbol, which it does then yes surely it should be banned. why make a big fuss about it when banning it is the most cost effective method both personally and financially.</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5355</link>
		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t normally make big cut-and-pastes, but there&#039;s a good reason:

&lt;i&gt;We highlight sexist, racist and homophobic attitudes by Asians here because we believe them to be wrong. So just because other racists/bigots may pick them up doesn’t mean we shouldn’t highlight and talk about the issue. All this has already been stated above.

The naive attitude that “progressives” like yourself (and Jamal) have is that you keep highlighting issues that you care about (Bush, the war etc), but want to sweep under the carpet all the things too uncomfortable for you to deal with.

Racist Asians? ‘Oh no, let’s not talk about that’. Sexism? ‘Oh stop pointing fingers at us, others are worse’. Stupidity by the so-called community leaders or the ethnic press - ‘no we don’t want to talk about it because then racists might use it for their own agenda’.

So everyone else thinks all us Asians are like that. Sorry mate we don’t hide behind that victim mentality that you do. We are proud of our roots but we also want to take things forward and fight against social ills.

The stupidity of our community leaders, ethnic media, self-styled personal jihadis etc all has to be highlighted and argued against otherwise we get nowhere. We get apologists like you who would prefer such things simply go away.&lt;/i&gt;

i&#039;m pretty sure i could rewrite this to apply to my own community. and it&#039;s not just us jews; i&#039;m pretty sure everyone could do it, black, white, chinese, hindus, whatever.

so cheers to you sunny, for being willing to stand up and be counted!

b&#039;shalom

bananabrain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t normally make big cut-and-pastes, but there&#8217;s a good reason:</p>
<p><i>We highlight sexist, racist and homophobic attitudes by Asians here because we believe them to be wrong. So just because other racists/bigots may pick them up doesn’t mean we shouldn’t highlight and talk about the issue. All this has already been stated above.</p>
<p>The naive attitude that “progressives” like yourself (and Jamal) have is that you keep highlighting issues that you care about (Bush, the war etc), but want to sweep under the carpet all the things too uncomfortable for you to deal with.</p>
<p>Racist Asians? ‘Oh no, let’s not talk about that’. Sexism? ‘Oh stop pointing fingers at us, others are worse’. Stupidity by the so-called community leaders or the ethnic press &#8211; ‘no we don’t want to talk about it because then racists might use it for their own agenda’.</p>
<p>So everyone else thinks all us Asians are like that. Sorry mate we don’t hide behind that victim mentality that you do. We are proud of our roots but we also want to take things forward and fight against social ills.</p>
<p>The stupidity of our community leaders, ethnic media, self-styled personal jihadis etc all has to be highlighted and argued against otherwise we get nowhere. We get apologists like you who would prefer such things simply go away.</i></p>
<p>i&#8217;m pretty sure i could rewrite this to apply to my own community. and it&#8217;s not just us jews; i&#8217;m pretty sure everyone could do it, black, white, chinese, hindus, whatever.</p>
<p>so cheers to you sunny, for being willing to stand up and be counted!</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
<p>bananabrain</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5325</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny  your &quot;freedom of speech&quot;,&quot;democracy&quot; ends for me and blue mountain isnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny  your &#8220;freedom of speech&#8221;,&#8221;democracy&#8221; ends for me and blue mountain isnt it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5316</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religious sanction is no excuse OP, we both know that. Abuse of women happens in all non-Muslim societies too - maybe you should direct your invective to domestic abuse in this country instead of being a one-trick pony about Islam. We don&#039;t and never will support wife-beating on here, so again - please stop making baseless statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious sanction is no excuse OP, we both know that. Abuse of women happens in all non-Muslim societies too &#8211; maybe you should direct your invective to domestic abuse in this country instead of being a one-trick pony about Islam. We don&#8217;t and never will support wife-beating on here, so again &#8211; please stop making baseless statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5313</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wife beating is also a &#039;right&#039; in Islam. So it is probably &#039;undemocratic&#039; to condemn it, because we are infringing on Muslims&#039; &#039;rights&#039; to practise their religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wife beating is also a &#8216;right&#8217; in Islam. So it is probably &#8216;undemocratic&#8217; to condemn it, because we are infringing on Muslims&#8217; &#8216;rights&#8217; to practise their religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5310</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still looking forward to the OP v Bikhair clash of civilisations on the issue of women &quot;forced into burkha wearing&quot; by evil Muslim men right here, ringside, on PP. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still looking forward to the OP v Bikhair clash of civilisations on the issue of women &#8220;forced into burkha wearing&#8221; by evil Muslim men right here, ringside, on PP. <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/172/comment-page-2#comment-5309</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Pickler,

It has always struck me as odd that the males can dress as Chicago Gangsters or Hoodies, but the women are required to remain modest. Is this the human version of Peacocks? I believe it is the male peacock that puts on the display.

Quite the antithesis of western culure really. Well, Western European at least, not too sure I&#039;m up to speed on the Gangstas on the West Side, although they seem to dress down their chix and then say &#039;I dare ya.&#039; 

Although I believe that Dalek dress should be reserved for Dr Who get togethers. Where it is appropriate and gets you kudos.

Dress codes are a minefield.

douglas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Pickler,</p>
<p>It has always struck me as odd that the males can dress as Chicago Gangsters or Hoodies, but the women are required to remain modest. Is this the human version of Peacocks? I believe it is the male peacock that puts on the display.</p>
<p>Quite the antithesis of western culure really. Well, Western European at least, not too sure I&#8217;m up to speed on the Gangstas on the West Side, although they seem to dress down their chix and then say &#8216;I dare ya.&#8217; </p>
<p>Although I believe that Dalek dress should be reserved for Dr Who get togethers. Where it is appropriate and gets you kudos.</p>
<p>Dress codes are a minefield.</p>
<p>douglas</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bikhair has her own opinions that she is allowed to have, because, do try to remember, this is a democracy. That doesn&#039;t mean we agree with her in the same way much of the drivel you spout on HP&#039;s comment boxes is not shared by the commentators there.

And for the record, wearing a Hijab is a right that, whether you like it or not, is a right under freedom to express your religion etc etc. I would defend that right because it is fundamental to democracy, but I would not defend that dresscode being imposed on someone.

So, unless you show examples where the writers of this blog have put sexual equality to religion, please don&#039;t throw useless accusations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bikhair has her own opinions that she is allowed to have, because, do try to remember, this is a democracy. That doesn&#8217;t mean we agree with her in the same way much of the drivel you spout on HP&#8217;s comment boxes is not shared by the commentators there.</p>
<p>And for the record, wearing a Hijab is a right that, whether you like it or not, is a right under freedom to express your religion etc etc. I would defend that right because it is fundamental to democracy, but I would not defend that dresscode being imposed on someone.</p>
<p>So, unless you show examples where the writers of this blog have put sexual equality to religion, please don&#8217;t throw useless accusations.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the many commenters who, on a thread a few weeks ago said it was OK for women to &#039;choose&#039; to dress like a dalek. Yeah, they are really saying that it is appropriate for men to &#039;choose&#039; to dress like that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the many commenters who, on a thread a few weeks ago said it was OK for women to &#8216;choose&#8217; to dress like a dalek. Yeah, they are really saying that it is appropriate for men to &#8216;choose&#8217; to dress like that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you cite any relevant examples by the commentators, feel free. Until then keep the false accusations to yourself. &lt;/i&gt;

Bikhair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you cite any relevant examples by the commentators, feel free. Until then keep the false accusations to yourself. </i></p>
<p>Bikhair?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gender equality is bound to play second fiddle on an ‘Asian’ blog that gives house room to Islam.&lt;/i&gt;

Rubbish OP - your rhetoric is again giving way to what you see on here. If you cite any relevant examples by the commentators, feel free. Until then keep the false accusations to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Gender equality is bound to play second fiddle on an ‘Asian’ blog that gives house room to Islam.</i></p>
<p>Rubbish OP &#8211; your rhetoric is again giving way to what you see on here. If you cite any relevant examples by the commentators, feel free. Until then keep the false accusations to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Surely we live in a post-sexist age where women can chat up men and be the main bread winners in a household. So what the fuss?) &lt;/i&gt;.

What indeed? So I&#039;m waiting with baited breath for those men who say it&#039;s OK for women to dress in sacks with slits to say that it&#039;s OK for men too. And those men who say that polygyamy is part of the diversity rainbow to be equally keen on polyandry.

Still waiting.

Gender equality is bound to play second fiddle on an &#039;Asian&#039; blog that gives house room to Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Surely we live in a post-sexist age where women can chat up men and be the main bread winners in a household. So what the fuss?) </i>.</p>
<p>What indeed? So I&#8217;m waiting with baited breath for those men who say it&#8217;s OK for women to dress in sacks with slits to say that it&#8217;s OK for men too. And those men who say that polygyamy is part of the diversity rainbow to be equally keen on polyandry.</p>
<p>Still waiting.</p>
<p>Gender equality is bound to play second fiddle on an &#8216;Asian&#8217; blog that gives house room to Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How comes Sunny is singled out for criticism? 
With apologies to Sidney James, I was the one who lowered the tone by first letting slip my lurid and sexist fascination with the enchanting Mishal Hussein. I cannot suppress the man within and nor do I really want to. She is a seriously horny work of breakfast TV totty. The hint of innate intelligence that goes with her job as a newsreader only serves to multiply her attractiveness -- to someone as evidently sick as me. 
It&#039;s a terrible illness and very addictive; in many parts of the world it can strike about 10 out of every 10 heterosexual males.
Of course, if women were covered from head to toe, so that only their eyes showed, then weak men like me wouldn&#039;t be so distracted and could focus on the autocue-reading in hand. A hole for the mouth might also help. 
(Only teasing. Surely we live in a post-sexist age where women can chat up men and be the main bread winners in a household. So what the fuss?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How comes Sunny is singled out for criticism?<br />
With apologies to Sidney James, I was the one who lowered the tone by first letting slip my lurid and sexist fascination with the enchanting Mishal Hussein. I cannot suppress the man within and nor do I really want to. She is a seriously horny work of breakfast TV totty. The hint of innate intelligence that goes with her job as a newsreader only serves to multiply her attractiveness &#8212; to someone as evidently sick as me.<br />
It&#8217;s a terrible illness and very addictive; in many parts of the world it can strike about 10 out of every 10 heterosexual males.<br />
Of course, if women were covered from head to toe, so that only their eyes showed, then weak men like me wouldn&#8217;t be so distracted and could focus on the autocue-reading in hand. A hole for the mouth might also help.<br />
(Only teasing. Surely we live in a post-sexist age where women can chat up men and be the main bread winners in a household. So what the fuss?)</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Pickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s an ice cream like you doing in a tub like that?</description>
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