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		<title>By: big muscle men</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-105075</link>
		<dc:creator>big muscle men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;big muscle men...&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>Whey concentrate powders are quit a bit cheaper, typically cost around $30 for a 5lb tub online, where an isolate can cost around&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama definitely surprised me as for as the number of state he won. I supported him all the way his campaign, but I always have little doubt in mind that whether he&#039;ll make it or not. But he proved I&#039;m wrong. I&#039;m happy for him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama definitely surprised me as for as the number of state he won. I supported him all the way his campaign, but I always have little doubt in mind that whether he&#8217;ll make it or not. But he proved I&#8217;m wrong. I&#8217;m happy for him.<br />
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		<title>By: axel foley</title>
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		<dc:creator>axel foley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sonia

This post in in response to the last comment in &#039;Youths throw...&#039;

Your own hypocrisy is quite astounding also. 

You are the woman who goes hell for leather at anyone who exhibits some form of overt religious identity or affinity with tradition - you even went as far as to accuse people who have respect for their ancestors as being up their &#039;ancestor&#039;s arses&#039;. 

But at the same time, you play little the good Muslim at home in front of the family.

You and Desi should get together and paint your toenails or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sonia</p>
<p>This post in in response to the last comment in &#8216;Youths throw&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>Your own hypocrisy is quite astounding also. </p>
<p>You are the woman who goes hell for leather at anyone who exhibits some form of overt religious identity or affinity with tradition &#8211; you even went as far as to accuse people who have respect for their ancestors as being up their &#8216;ancestor&#8217;s arses&#8217;. </p>
<p>But at the same time, you play little the good Muslim at home in front of the family.</p>
<p>You and Desi should get together and paint your toenails or something.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes let&#039;s hope he has the same courage if and when he gets the top position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes let&#8217;s hope he has the same courage if and when he gets the top position.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Obama on whether she was offended by questions around whether her husband was &#039;black&#039; enough..

..&quot;&quot;There are inherent risks for all people, but particularly for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/01/michelle.obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;people of color&lt;/a&gt;, so, you know, I can&#039;t live my life worrying about what might go wrong,&quot; she said. &quot;What we are going through, Barack and our family, is nothing compared to our leaders who pushed through on the civil rights movement.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Obama on whether she was offended by questions around whether her husband was &#8216;black&#8217; enough..</p>
<p>..&#8221;"There are inherent risks for all people, but particularly for <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/01/michelle.obama/" rel="nofollow">people of color</a>, so, you know, I can&#8217;t live my life worrying about what might go wrong,&#8221; she said. &#8220;What we are going through, Barack and our family, is nothing compared to our leaders who pushed through on the civil rights movement.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse my usual typos. Too many to list.</description>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100730</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My worry is that a US backed into a corner is a far more dangerous beast than one driven by hubris and greed.

Right now with two thirds of the american public thinking they are in a recession, and US/UK understated policy of maintaining a &#039;stable&#039; Middle East for the sole purpose of keeping the oil flowing (ie to them and through them, in preference to China and India), may mean they are persuaded to back McCain because he will mobilise and send more troops out to bring back the spoils. To the detriment of the rest of the world.

Within 12 months he will open a new front with Venezuela, whilst the surge becomes Big Surge.  

I anticipate if McCain becomes President he will have have to have conscription.

These are the BALLS we are looking out, Ladies and Gentlemen. Apologies to those who can&#039;t stomach the imagery that paints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My worry is that a US backed into a corner is a far more dangerous beast than one driven by hubris and greed.</p>
<p>Right now with two thirds of the american public thinking they are in a recession, and US/UK understated policy of maintaining a &#8216;stable&#8217; Middle East for the sole purpose of keeping the oil flowing (ie to them and through them, in preference to China and India), may mean they are persuaded to back McCain because he will mobilise and send more troops out to bring back the spoils. To the detriment of the rest of the world.</p>
<p>Within 12 months he will open a new front with Venezuela, whilst the surge becomes Big Surge.  </p>
<p>I anticipate if McCain becomes President he will have have to have conscription.</p>
<p>These are the BALLS we are looking out, Ladies and Gentlemen. Apologies to those who can&#8217;t stomach the imagery that paints.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That shows balls, and that he is guided by principle.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agree with the first part, not convinced by the second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That shows balls, and that he is guided by principle.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agree with the first part, not convinced by the second.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ravi,

&#039;Obama is far more courageous than McCain or Hillary - he did vote against the Iraq war in a time when you were branded a traitor and an enemy enabler, if you so much said that Bush was wrong in his choice of tie.&#039;

Excellent observation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravi,</p>
<p>&#8216;Obama is far more courageous than McCain or Hillary &#8211; he did vote against the Iraq war in a time when you were branded a traitor and an enemy enabler, if you so much said that Bush was wrong in his choice of tie.&#8217;</p>
<p>Excellent observation!</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100717</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;As far as I can tell, Team Obama hasnâ€™t been playing the â€œperson of colourâ€ card at all. However, that tactic has been used by some of his competitors in an effort to undermine him as being purely a â€œblack candidateâ€.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, Bill Clinton&#039;s comment that Jesse Jackson also won South Carolina in the 80s, or Hillary&#039;s comment that Dr.  King was full of ideas, but it was a (white) president who signed the law - was very very shameful. They tried to reduce their opponent to race, and that surely backfired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;As far as I can tell, Team Obama hasnâ€™t been playing the â€œperson of colourâ€ card at all. However, that tactic has been used by some of his competitors in an effort to undermine him as being purely a â€œblack candidateâ€.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, Bill Clinton&#8217;s comment that Jesse Jackson also won South Carolina in the 80s, or Hillary&#8217;s comment that Dr.  King was full of ideas, but it was a (white) president who signed the law &#8211; was very very shameful. They tried to reduce their opponent to race, and that surely backfired.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100714</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Barak or McCain (the latter hopefully, because he has BALLS)&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obama is far more courageous than McCain or Hillary - he did vote against the Iraq war in a time when you were branded a traitor and an enemy enabler, if you so much said that Bush was wrong in his choice of tie. He was also accused of being an anti-American for not wearing that silly American flag pin - and his response was that he does not use it because it had become a symbol of false patriotism.  This despite having &#039;Hussein&#039; as his middle-name, being black and liberal. 

That shows balls, and that he is guided by principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Barak or McCain (the latter hopefully, because he has BALLS)&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama is far more courageous than McCain or Hillary &#8211; he did vote against the Iraq war in a time when you were branded a traitor and an enemy enabler, if you so much said that Bush was wrong in his choice of tie. He was also accused of being an anti-American for not wearing that silly American flag pin &#8211; and his response was that he does not use it because it had become a symbol of false patriotism.  This despite having &#8216;Hussein&#8217; as his middle-name, being black and liberal. </p>
<p>That shows balls, and that he is guided by principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100708</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any case balls to do what exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any case balls to do what exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100707</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kesara, its not balls we need (whatever they are), thought Bush had enough for the whole of mankind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kesara, its not balls we need (whatever they are), thought Bush had enough for the whole of mankind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100703</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;frankly im sure obamaâ€™s spin doctors would have called him mad if he didnâ€™t play the â€˜person of colourâ€™ card&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As far as I can tell, Team Obama hasn&#039;t been playing the &quot;person of colour&quot; card at all. However, that tactic &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; been used by some of his competitors in an effort to undermine him as being purely a &quot;black candidate&quot;. It appears to have backfired somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>frankly im sure obamaâ€™s spin doctors would have called him mad if he didnâ€™t play the â€˜person of colourâ€™ card</p></blockquote>
<p>As far as I can tell, Team Obama hasn&#8217;t been playing the &#8220;person of colour&#8221; card at all. However, that tactic <i>has</i> been used by some of his competitors in an effort to undermine him as being purely a &#8220;black candidate&#8221;. It appears to have backfired somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Kesara</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100701</link>
		<dc:creator>Kesara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barak or McCain (the latter hopefully, because he has BALLS) but please not Hillary, shes all about image - when push comes to shove she&#039;ll talk about public relations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barak or McCain (the latter hopefully, because he has BALLS) but please not Hillary, shes all about image &#8211; when push comes to shove she&#8217;ll talk about public relations.</p>
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		<title>By: chairwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>chairwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodness Sunny, I didn&#039;t realise you lived in Utopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness Sunny, I didn&#8217;t realise you lived in Utopia.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1689#comment-100693</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;1) Obama has a very high rating amongst Democrats, more than Clinton in fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

However so far, he is losing the popular vote - since most independents are voting for him, I feel he has less support from democrats in general than Hillary. She has strong support from old people, white women, latinos and Asians (East Asians - not sure about South Asians).

The good news for Obama - is that the remaining US States do not have that many latinos, and he has far more money that she has. I just hope we have a clear winner soon, or fucking Florida will once again decide an election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>1) Obama has a very high rating amongst Democrats, more than Clinton in fact.</p></blockquote>
<p>However so far, he is losing the popular vote &#8211; since most independents are voting for him, I feel he has less support from democrats in general than Hillary. She has strong support from old people, white women, latinos and Asians (East Asians &#8211; not sure about South Asians).</p>
<p>The good news for Obama &#8211; is that the remaining US States do not have that many latinos, and he has far more money that she has. I just hope we have a clear winner soon, or fucking Florida will once again decide an election.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;But if Obama agrees to be her VP that could damage him; heâ€™s made such a big play about being different, about her being the past that agreeing to run with her could look hypocritical/opportunistic.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, that&#039;s politics, innit? He needs to show that he is different from Clinton in the primaries, or become irrelevant. On the other hand, he could justify his VP position that because he is different from Clinton, he can complement her strengths as a VP. After all, if your follow the conventional narrative... she is about experience, and he is a about uniting the nation.
And he does stand a better chance to be elected as a president after Clinton - because it gives him exposure during that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;But if Obama agrees to be her VP that could damage him; heâ€™s made such a big play about being different, about her being the past that agreeing to run with her could look hypocritical/opportunistic.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s politics, innit? He needs to show that he is different from Clinton in the primaries, or become irrelevant. On the other hand, he could justify his VP position that because he is different from Clinton, he can complement her strengths as a VP. After all, if your follow the conventional narrative&#8230; she is about experience, and he is a about uniting the nation.<br />
And he does stand a better chance to be elected as a president after Clinton &#8211; because it gives him exposure during that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point to note. Barack Obama has raised more money as a presidential nominee (let alone for the presidential race that has yet to come) than anyone by far. That includes George Bush. He has already passed the 100 million mark, raising over 30 million alone in the last quarter. And like I said, the presidential contest is still to come.

And the vast majority of this money is donated online by ordinary people, not big business. You could say people won&#039;t vote for Barack Obama.... but he&#039;s way more successful than all the other candidates. In fact he raised more money than the Republicans COMBINED (if it wasn&#039;t for Mitt Romney&#039;s own money going in).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point to note. Barack Obama has raised more money as a presidential nominee (let alone for the presidential race that has yet to come) than anyone by far. That includes George Bush. He has already passed the 100 million mark, raising over 30 million alone in the last quarter. And like I said, the presidential contest is still to come.</p>
<p>And the vast majority of this money is donated online by ordinary people, not big business. You could say people won&#8217;t vote for Barack Obama&#8230;. but he&#8217;s way more successful than all the other candidates. In fact he raised more money than the Republicans COMBINED (if it wasn&#8217;t for Mitt Romney&#8217;s own money going in).</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;About Obama, Lets get real someone with the middle name â€œHusseinâ€ is not going to be voted into power by the American people and should he gain the nomination I can just picture the Fox News headlines now â€œA vote for Obama is a vote for Osamaâ€ ; heâ€™s soft on terror etc etc&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m afraid this doesn&#039;t stand up for various reasons.

1) Obama has a very high rating amongst Democrats, more than Clinton in fact. So if he&#039;s selected as their nominee then they&#039;ll vote for him because the last thing they want is another Republican like Bush.

2) Democrat turn-outs have been way higher than Republicans this year, another reason why its very likely to be a Dem candidate.

3) Obama also rates much better among Independent and Republican voters than Clinton. Of course some are racist, but not all are. 

4) So even if your redneck from hicksville won&#039;t vote Obama, the rest of the country will. Obama&#039;s share of the white MAN vote increased this time round to almost level Clinton. He just loses out in the white women vote.

5) He&#039;ll win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>About Obama, Lets get real someone with the middle name â€œHusseinâ€ is not going to be voted into power by the American people and should he gain the nomination I can just picture the Fox News headlines now â€œA vote for Obama is a vote for Osamaâ€ ; heâ€™s soft on terror etc etc</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid this doesn&#8217;t stand up for various reasons.</p>
<p>1) Obama has a very high rating amongst Democrats, more than Clinton in fact. So if he&#8217;s selected as their nominee then they&#8217;ll vote for him because the last thing they want is another Republican like Bush.</p>
<p>2) Democrat turn-outs have been way higher than Republicans this year, another reason why its very likely to be a Dem candidate.</p>
<p>3) Obama also rates much better among Independent and Republican voters than Clinton. Of course some are racist, but not all are. </p>
<p>4) So even if your redneck from hicksville won&#8217;t vote Obama, the rest of the country will. Obama&#8217;s share of the white MAN vote increased this time round to almost level Clinton. He just loses out in the white women vote.</p>
<p>5) He&#8217;ll win.</p>
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