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		<title>By: Natty</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1597/comment-page-1#comment-95527</link>
		<dc:creator>Natty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refresh - It wasn&#039;t the fault of PP and indeed there were people who accepted this may be the case. Just a few hardened Muslim bashers who like to think badly of that maligned community

I am glad the right wing is being exposed for whipping up hatred as much as the extremists on the other side.

It was similar in the approach to the war on Iraq and now that has also been exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refresh &#8211; It wasn&#8217;t the fault of PP and indeed there were people who accepted this may be the case. Just a few hardened Muslim bashers who like to think badly of that maligned community</p>
<p>I am glad the right wing is being exposed for whipping up hatred as much as the extremists on the other side.</p>
<p>It was similar in the approach to the war on Iraq and now that has also been exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1597/comment-page-1#comment-95525</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natty, its better to attempt to persuade best you can, and if that fails let events confirm your views. 

Lets just say that PP has improved from its earlier days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natty, its better to attempt to persuade best you can, and if that fails let events confirm your views. </p>
<p>Lets just say that PP has improved from its earlier days.</p>
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		<title>By: Natty</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1597/comment-page-1#comment-95522</link>
		<dc:creator>Natty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I said that the research may have been dodgy, I was roundly attacked here by a few. 

Now those people should hang there heads in shame for relying on a dodgy right wing think tank and research which whipped up hysteria without foundation.

So we see again how people are pushing an agenda.

Way to go Newsnight for exposing these dirty tricks.

For those of you who said literature couldn&#039;t be placed by anyone you better wipe the egg from your faces :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I said that the research may have been dodgy, I was roundly attacked here by a few. </p>
<p>Now those people should hang there heads in shame for relying on a dodgy right wing think tank and research which whipped up hysteria without foundation.</p>
<p>So we see again how people are pushing an agenda.</p>
<p>Way to go Newsnight for exposing these dirty tricks.</p>
<p>For those of you who said literature couldn&#8217;t be placed by anyone you better wipe the egg from your faces <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One would hope they all crawl back under that stone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would hope they all crawl back under that stone.</p>
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		<title>By: marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1597/comment-page-1#comment-95106</link>
		<dc:creator>marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;who is really behind them?&quot; ooh a conspiracy! The Jews perhaps? :)

NO, I doubt this is a conspiracy. You really don&#039;t need to conspire to make it appear a hate literature is available methinks. I suspect a junior researcher trying to prove himself, surely anyone higher up would see the stupidity of faking evidence. One would hope.

Will wait and see though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;who is really behind them?&#8221; ooh a conspiracy! The Jews perhaps? <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>NO, I doubt this is a conspiracy. You really don&#8217;t need to conspire to make it appear a hate literature is available methinks. I suspect a junior researcher trying to prove himself, surely anyone higher up would see the stupidity of faking evidence. One would hope.</p>
<p>Will wait and see though</p>
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		<title>By: Reffresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1597/comment-page-1#comment-95103</link>
		<dc:creator>Reffresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marvin,

Hate literature comes in many forms, the most pernicious of it unrecogniseable and the extremist Policy Exchange &#039;report&#039; was just one.

It was written for the weak-minded, and it served its purpose. 

Sack those numpties for faking receipts? Why? 

Why not expose them for what they want to achieve and why not put them under the microscope and find out who is really behind them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marvin,</p>
<p>Hate literature comes in many forms, the most pernicious of it unrecogniseable and the extremist Policy Exchange &#8216;report&#8217; was just one.</p>
<p>It was written for the weak-minded, and it served its purpose. </p>
<p>Sack those numpties for faking receipts? Why? </p>
<p>Why not expose them for what they want to achieve and why not put them under the microscope and find out who is really behind them?</p>
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		<title>By: marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1597/comment-page-1#comment-95065</link>
		<dc:creator>marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letter &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2231330,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letter <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,2231330,00.html" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1597/comment-page-1#comment-95064</link>
		<dc:creator>marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony Browne, director of Policy Exchange, has a letter published in the Guardian

&lt;blockquote&gt;East London Mosque does not dispute that extremist literature is sold at the East London Mosque bookshop, which is based on ELM premises and provides till receipts bearing the name &quot;ELM Book Centre&quot;. The mosque chairman, Muhammad Abdul Bari, who is also secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, merely makes the surprising claim that he has no responsibility for what is sold in the bookshop.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, the point is, extremist literature IS being sold at the East London Mosque Bookshop. Abdul is the chairman of the East London mosque. This is certainly worth mentioning. If he&#039;s the chairman, and in his position of responsibility, he should be involving himself in the bookshop. 

Certainly, if the Canterbury Catherdral bookshop was selling neo-nazi hate material, then we would expect the Archbishop of Canterbury to get involved and condemn and take moves to remove it, rather than saying &quot;oh, nought to do with me!&quot;

And let&#039;s hope the numpties responsible for (allegedly) faking receipts get the sack sharpish. Quite why they felt they had to do this is beyond me. 

Hate literature is widely available, as we all know. The internet is the real hub of it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony Browne, director of Policy Exchange, has a letter published in the Guardian</p>
<blockquote><p>East London Mosque does not dispute that extremist literature is sold at the East London Mosque bookshop, which is based on ELM premises and provides till receipts bearing the name &#8220;ELM Book Centre&#8221;. The mosque chairman, Muhammad Abdul Bari, who is also secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, merely makes the surprising claim that he has no responsibility for what is sold in the bookshop.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, the point is, extremist literature IS being sold at the East London Mosque Bookshop. Abdul is the chairman of the East London mosque. This is certainly worth mentioning. If he&#8217;s the chairman, and in his position of responsibility, he should be involving himself in the bookshop. </p>
<p>Certainly, if the Canterbury Catherdral bookshop was selling neo-nazi hate material, then we would expect the Archbishop of Canterbury to get involved and condemn and take moves to remove it, rather than saying &#8220;oh, nought to do with me!&#8221;</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s hope the numpties responsible for (allegedly) faking receipts get the sack sharpish. Quite why they felt they had to do this is beyond me. </p>
<p>Hate literature is widely available, as we all know. The internet is the real hub of it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Metatone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metatone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, swaraj, the whole point of being a think-tank is that you can publish whatever you like and never have to say you&#039;re sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, swaraj, the whole point of being a think-tank is that you can publish whatever you like and never have to say you&#8217;re sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: swaraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>swaraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time PE got their come uppance. I used to think that they were finally a rightish think tank who were coming up with sensible ideas. Indeed some of their earlier stuff, under the guidance of Nicholas Boles who very good.  Nick is a good guy, but theyve got soem researchers there who are just peddling stories and they have become quite aloof in recent times.

Surely, the whole idea of a think-tank is that its finding are sound, justifiable and evidence-based?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time PE got their come uppance. I used to think that they were finally a rightish think tank who were coming up with sensible ideas. Indeed some of their earlier stuff, under the guidance of Nicholas Boles who very good.  Nick is a good guy, but theyve got soem researchers there who are just peddling stories and they have become quite aloof in recent times.</p>
<p>Surely, the whole idea of a think-tank is that its finding are sound, justifiable and evidence-based?</p>
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		<title>By: Bartholomew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bartholomew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favourite bit of bluster comes from Charles Moore:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr Barron decided to try to prove himself right. In the private sector, there is something called &quot;vanity publishing&quot;, where people pay for their own works to be published. 

Mr Barron&#039;s vanity broadcasting was, of course, at the expense of the licence-fee payer...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can think of a more salient example of &quot;vanity publishing&quot; - for example, when a man buys a newspaper so that his wife can inflict Likudnik screeds on its readers.

I wonder what&#039;s happening about that threat to pursue a libel action &quot;relentlessly, to trial or capitulation&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favourite bit of bluster comes from Charles Moore:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr Barron decided to try to prove himself right. In the private sector, there is something called &#8220;vanity publishing&#8221;, where people pay for their own works to be published. </p>
<p>Mr Barron&#8217;s vanity broadcasting was, of course, at the expense of the licence-fee payer&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I can think of a more salient example of &#8220;vanity publishing&#8221; &#8211; for example, when a man buys a newspaper so that his wife can inflict Likudnik screeds on its readers.</p>
<p>I wonder what&#8217;s happening about that threat to pursue a libel action &#8220;relentlessly, to trial or capitulation&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean Godson really does need to explain a bit more about himself than he has so far. He got sacked by the Daily Telegraph, whose then editor said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;It&#039;s OK to be pro-Israel, but not to be unbelievably pro-Likud Israel, it&#039;s OK to be pro-American but not look as if you&#039;re taking instructions from Washington.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That strikes me as a fairly serious allegation, one that Dean Godson ought to be aware of. Whilst many other members of his family have been closely involved in the darker side of &#039;culture wars&#039;, it would, perhaps be the position of an innocent man to argue that he was, quite simply, being tarred with the same brush.

No, I don&#039;t believe it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean Godson really does need to explain a bit more about himself than he has so far. He got sacked by the Daily Telegraph, whose then editor said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s OK to be pro-Israel, but not to be unbelievably pro-Likud Israel, it&#8217;s OK to be pro-American but not look as if you&#8217;re taking instructions from Washington.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That strikes me as a fairly serious allegation, one that Dean Godson ought to be aware of. Whilst many other members of his family have been closely involved in the darker side of &#8216;culture wars&#8217;, it would, perhaps be the position of an innocent man to argue that he was, quite simply, being tarred with the same brush.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t believe it either.</p>
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		<title>By: a very public sociologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>a very public sociologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. PE have been slapped with a wet kipper and hung out to dry. The only thing is, they haven&#039;t realised it yet, which will make things trickier for them in the long run. Not being anywhere near the Westminster bubble, I hadn&#039;t heard of them before this. But now I have, they&#039;ll go down in my book as the outfit that tried to fit the mosques up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. PE have been slapped with a wet kipper and hung out to dry. The only thing is, they haven&#8217;t realised it yet, which will make things trickier for them in the long run. Not being anywhere near the Westminster bubble, I hadn&#8217;t heard of them before this. But now I have, they&#8217;ll go down in my book as the outfit that tried to fit the mosques up.</p>
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