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		<title>By: World War III &#8212; Red Dawn &#8212; Top 100 books</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] removal of Chief Justice of Pakistan in March, the Washington-backed officials in Islam    source: Christmas comes early for President Musharraf, Pickled [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simply Confused</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94835</link>
		<dc:creator>Simply Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nawaz Sharif the champion od democracy removed as a corrupt leaderstays in exile, people pine for him whilst in exile, Musharraf in the meantime a hero, BB proved to be a corrupt leader with swiss cases pending in foreign courts, Musharraf continues to go up in the polls, he makes a couple of blunders like the supreme court, and the emergency episodes, both leaders return, under an understanding and pretend to be the saviours of the nation. if this is not hogwash what is. a military man no matter wo when he comes in (although wrong and unacceptable) is more focussed because he has no agenda, while the politicians who are drooling for power have nothing in sight except power, question is wher do we stop sir????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nawaz Sharif the champion od democracy removed as a corrupt leaderstays in exile, people pine for him whilst in exile, Musharraf in the meantime a hero, BB proved to be a corrupt leader with swiss cases pending in foreign courts, Musharraf continues to go up in the polls, he makes a couple of blunders like the supreme court, and the emergency episodes, both leaders return, under an understanding and pretend to be the saviours of the nation. if this is not hogwash what is. a military man no matter wo when he comes in (although wrong and unacceptable) is more focussed because he has no agenda, while the politicians who are drooling for power have nothing in sight except power, question is wher do we stop sir????</p>
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		<title>By: Mariana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The emergency may have been lifted but it has not made much difference on the grass root level. If Musharraf&#039;s motives were benevolent for the country as he seemed to have promised while imposing it, what really has changed in Pak now? The only thing changed is that the media is saying what he wanted them to and he is indeed the new president.
What a big deception!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emergency may have been lifted but it has not made much difference on the grass root level. If Musharraf&#8217;s motives were benevolent for the country as he seemed to have promised while imposing it, what really has changed in Pak now? The only thing changed is that the media is saying what he wanted them to and he is indeed the new president.<br />
What a big deception!</p>
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		<title>By: ww</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94305</link>
		<dc:creator>ww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ww</title>
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		<dc:creator>ww</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nabeel A Awan</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94219</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabeel A Awan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear sir, the idea is not to fix responsiblity for this particular criminal transaction; or for that matter, say that this never happened before. I think, instead, the idea is to highlight the fact that never in our national history of 60 years, the rule of law and general public perception of jutciability of a public wrong has been at this low ebb. 
And the government just cannot absolve itself by saying &quot;this also happened in 1960,1970 or 1998, so what&#039;s new?&quot;. 
 
And further, sir, I agree, we are a population. But even populations have rules and values. I think, we are only a herd of sheep and the shepherd just doesn&#039;t give a f***.
(and this is only an English translation of what JC said in the last few lines of his instant article)
 
Cheer up, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear sir, the idea is not to fix responsiblity for this particular criminal transaction; or for that matter, say that this never happened before. I think, instead, the idea is to highlight the fact that never in our national history of 60 years, the rule of law and general public perception of jutciability of a public wrong has been at this low ebb.<br />
And the government just cannot absolve itself by saying &#8220;this also happened in 1960,1970 or 1998, so what&#8217;s new?&#8221;. </p>
<p>And further, sir, I agree, we are a population. But even populations have rules and values. I think, we are only a herd of sheep and the shepherd just doesn&#8217;t give a f***.<br />
(and this is only an English translation of what JC said in the last few lines of his instant article)</p>
<p>Cheer up, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasir Waqar</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasir Waqar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know who is wrong here, the Musharaf&#039;s Govt or the Nation? same things have been happening in the time of BB and Nawaz.
Unfortunately we are not a Nation We are Just a Population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know who is wrong here, the Musharaf&#8217;s Govt or the Nation? same things have been happening in the time of BB and Nawaz.<br />
Unfortunately we are not a Nation We are Just a Population.</p>
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		<title>By: Tash</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94217</link>
		<dc:creator>Tash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way the emergency has been lifted now</description>
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		<title>By: Pinkie</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94216</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think every leader panicks towards the end of regime and President Musharraf is showing all the classic signs of a deteriarting dictator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think every leader panicks towards the end of regime and President Musharraf is showing all the classic signs of a deteriarting dictator.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94193</link>
		<dc:creator>Desi Italiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cover Drive:

&quot;I am just trying to make a point specifically about the presidents, prime ministers and army chiefs we have seen in Pakistan.&quot;

I fear we have miscommunicated :) I get the feeling that you think that I was disagreeing with you. I wasn&#039;t. I just wanted to add that there is ideological indoctrination (which, again, I add, is not specific to Pakistan but everywhere). But even with that fact, I agree with your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cover Drive:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am just trying to make a point specifically about the presidents, prime ministers and army chiefs we have seen in Pakistan.&#8221;</p>
<p>I fear we have miscommunicated <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I get the feeling that you think that I was disagreeing with you. I wasn&#8217;t. I just wanted to add that there is ideological indoctrination (which, again, I add, is not specific to Pakistan but everywhere). But even with that fact, I agree with your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Safraz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94191</link>
		<dc:creator>Safraz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rallying for Democracy in Pakistan!

PUBLIC RALLY -SUNDAY 16 DECEMBER 2007, 1pm

Norton Hall, Ralph Rd, Alum Rock, Birmingham 8

 

 

Pakistan&#039;s President Pervez Musharraf has announced that he intends to lift the state of emergency on Saturday 15th December 2007 and call elections in January 2008. President Musharraf was forced to step down as army chief amid mounting domestic opposition and international pressure.

 

Members of Birminghamâ€™s Pakistani and Kashmiri communities have called a rally On Sunday 16th December to debate the current crisis and show their support to the people of Pakistan in their struggle for democracy. The recently established Pakistani Solidarity Campaign has organised the rally and invited representatives from human rights organisations and prominent leaders of Pakistanâ€™s political parties. The rally will also be addressed via live telephone links from Pakistan by Imran Khan, leader of Pakistanâ€™s Tehreek-e-Insaf, Asma Jahangir, Special Rapporteur of the UN Commission on Human Rights, Ayesha Siddiqa, distinguished author and critic of Pakistanâ€™s military, Nusrut Javed, a banned journalist who currently conducts his show on the streets. The rally will be chaired by Naeem Malik (Pakistan Solidarity Campaign) and will include the following invited speakers:

 

WAJID SHAMSUL HASAN, Pakistan People Party (Former High Commissioner to UK &amp; Advisor to Benazir Bhutto), RAJA JAVED, Pakistan Muslim League (N) (Secretary General - West Midlands) SIBGHAT KADRI Q.C, Chairman of UK Lawyers Committee for Human Rights and Justice in Pakistan, KHALIL AHMED, Tehreek-e-Insaf (President West Midlands Branch), MUKHTAR DAR, South Asian Alliance and SALMA YAQOOB, Birmingham city councillor for Respect,

 

Naeem Malik Chair of the Pakistani Solidarity Campaign said:

 

â€œWe are very concerned by current developments in Pakistan and want to show our solidarity with our families and friends back home. The PSC is non aligned to any political party and is seeking to support the people of Pakistan in the struggle for freedom and democracy. The rally gives an opportunity to our communities to discuss whatâ€™s happening and question the respective parties about their manifestoes for changeâ€

 

The Pakistani Solidarity Campaign is seeking to build the widest support possible for democracy in Pakistan by campaigning around the following demands:

 

    * Restoration of the constitution as of 3 November 2007
    * Restoration of the Supreme Court judges
    * Release of political prisoners
    * An end to media censorship

 

 -Ends-

 

PRESS &amp; MEDIA CONTACT:

Naeem Malik on 07721427690 or Mukhtar Dar on 07736923865

e-mail: pakistansolidaritycampaign@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rallying for Democracy in Pakistan!</p>
<p>PUBLIC RALLY -SUNDAY 16 DECEMBER 2007, 1pm</p>
<p>Norton Hall, Ralph Rd, Alum Rock, Birmingham 8</p>
<p>Pakistan&#8217;s President Pervez Musharraf has announced that he intends to lift the state of emergency on Saturday 15th December 2007 and call elections in January 2008. President Musharraf was forced to step down as army chief amid mounting domestic opposition and international pressure.</p>
<p>Members of Birminghamâ€™s Pakistani and Kashmiri communities have called a rally On Sunday 16th December to debate the current crisis and show their support to the people of Pakistan in their struggle for democracy. The recently established Pakistani Solidarity Campaign has organised the rally and invited representatives from human rights organisations and prominent leaders of Pakistanâ€™s political parties. The rally will also be addressed via live telephone links from Pakistan by Imran Khan, leader of Pakistanâ€™s Tehreek-e-Insaf, Asma Jahangir, Special Rapporteur of the UN Commission on Human Rights, Ayesha Siddiqa, distinguished author and critic of Pakistanâ€™s military, Nusrut Javed, a banned journalist who currently conducts his show on the streets. The rally will be chaired by Naeem Malik (Pakistan Solidarity Campaign) and will include the following invited speakers:</p>
<p>WAJID SHAMSUL HASAN, Pakistan People Party (Former High Commissioner to UK &amp; Advisor to Benazir Bhutto), RAJA JAVED, Pakistan Muslim League (N) (Secretary General &#8211; West Midlands) SIBGHAT KADRI Q.C, Chairman of UK Lawyers Committee for Human Rights and Justice in Pakistan, KHALIL AHMED, Tehreek-e-Insaf (President West Midlands Branch), MUKHTAR DAR, South Asian Alliance and SALMA YAQOOB, Birmingham city councillor for Respect,</p>
<p>Naeem Malik Chair of the Pakistani Solidarity Campaign said:</p>
<p>â€œWe are very concerned by current developments in Pakistan and want to show our solidarity with our families and friends back home. The PSC is non aligned to any political party and is seeking to support the people of Pakistan in the struggle for freedom and democracy. The rally gives an opportunity to our communities to discuss whatâ€™s happening and question the respective parties about their manifestoes for changeâ€</p>
<p>The Pakistani Solidarity Campaign is seeking to build the widest support possible for democracy in Pakistan by campaigning around the following demands:</p>
<p>    * Restoration of the constitution as of 3 November 2007<br />
    * Restoration of the Supreme Court judges<br />
    * Release of political prisoners<br />
    * An end to media censorship</p>
<p> -Ends-</p>
<p>PRESS &amp; MEDIA CONTACT:</p>
<p>Naeem Malik on 07721427690 or Mukhtar Dar on 07736923865</p>
<p>e-mail: <a href="mailto:pakistansolidaritycampaign@yahoo.com">pakistansolidaritycampaign@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cover Drive</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94190</link>
		<dc:creator>Cover Drive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desi Italiana:

&lt;blockquote&gt;And even in spite of all of this, you have Pakistanis, who have thought for themselves, gone above and beyond, and are critical of the flawed and deeply ideological instruction they have received. That these Pakistanis exist proves your critique that there isnâ€™t an Aurangazeb in every ruler, politicians, leader, or anyone of influence in Pakistan.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am just trying to make a point specifically about the presidents, prime ministers and army chiefs we have seen in Pakistan. All have been extraordinarily hungry for power to point they want to control every institution in the country including the judiciary. Both Zia-ul-Huq and Musharraf were made chief of army mainly because the prime minister at the time felt they would be completely subservient to them. When the Shah of Iran visited Pakistan, Zulfiquar Ali Bhutto who was the prime minister at the time was reported to have remarked while introducing Zia ul-Huq:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Meet my new Army Chief. He is totally loyal to me. If I ask him to stand, he will stand. If I ask him to sit, he will sit. If I ask him to salute, he will salute. With him as the chief, the Army is in safe hands.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Little did Bhutto know that his new compliant military leader would turn the gun on him and have him executed. History repeated itself with Nawaz Sharif and Pervez Musharraf a few decades later.

I&#039;m not saying that there aren&#039;t informed Pakistanis who raise objections to this kind of bahaviour; obviously there are as we have seen them make their protests over the last few weeks. I wonder if history is going to repeat itself again. That remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desi Italiana:</p>
<blockquote><p>And even in spite of all of this, you have Pakistanis, who have thought for themselves, gone above and beyond, and are critical of the flawed and deeply ideological instruction they have received. That these Pakistanis exist proves your critique that there isnâ€™t an Aurangazeb in every ruler, politicians, leader, or anyone of influence in Pakistan.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am just trying to make a point specifically about the presidents, prime ministers and army chiefs we have seen in Pakistan. All have been extraordinarily hungry for power to point they want to control every institution in the country including the judiciary. Both Zia-ul-Huq and Musharraf were made chief of army mainly because the prime minister at the time felt they would be completely subservient to them. When the Shah of Iran visited Pakistan, Zulfiquar Ali Bhutto who was the prime minister at the time was reported to have remarked while introducing Zia ul-Huq:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Meet my new Army Chief. He is totally loyal to me. If I ask him to stand, he will stand. If I ask him to sit, he will sit. If I ask him to salute, he will salute. With him as the chief, the Army is in safe hands.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Little did Bhutto know that his new compliant military leader would turn the gun on him and have him executed. History repeated itself with Nawaz Sharif and Pervez Musharraf a few decades later.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that there aren&#8217;t informed Pakistanis who raise objections to this kind of bahaviour; obviously there are as we have seen them make their protests over the last few weeks. I wonder if history is going to repeat itself again. That remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94147</link>
		<dc:creator>Desi Italiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprisingly, Wikipedia has a good list of criticisms re: Pakistani education:

- K.K. Aziz. (2004) The Murder of History : A Critique of History Textbooks used in Pakistan. 

- Nayyar, A.H. &amp; Salim, Ahmad. (2003) The Subtle Subversion: The State of Curricula and Text-books in Pakistan - Urdu, English, Social Studies and Civics. Sustainable Development Policy Institute.

- Pervez Hoodbhoy and A. H. Nayyar. Rewriting the history of Pakistan, in Islam, Politics and the state: The Pakistan Experience, Ed. Mohammad Asghar Khan, Zed Books, London, 1985.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Pakistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprisingly, Wikipedia has a good list of criticisms re: Pakistani education:</p>
<p>- K.K. Aziz. (2004) The Murder of History : A Critique of History Textbooks used in Pakistan. </p>
<p>- Nayyar, A.H. &amp; Salim, Ahmad. (2003) The Subtle Subversion: The State of Curricula and Text-books in Pakistan &#8211; Urdu, English, Social Studies and Civics. Sustainable Development Policy Institute.</p>
<p>- Pervez Hoodbhoy and A. H. Nayyar. Rewriting the history of Pakistan, in Islam, Politics and the state: The Pakistan Experience, Ed. Mohammad Asghar Khan, Zed Books, London, 1985.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Pakistan" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Pakistan</a></p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desi Italiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It should be noted that in India, you see a mirror like movement in education as well,&quot;

Silly me, I forgot to add how the Mughal Empire is demonized and continuously portrayed as &quot;alien&quot; and &quot;foreign&quot; in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It should be noted that in India, you see a mirror like movement in education as well,&#8221;</p>
<p>Silly me, I forgot to add how the Mughal Empire is demonized and continuously portrayed as &#8220;alien&#8221; and &#8220;foreign&#8221; in India.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94145</link>
		<dc:creator>Desi Italiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cover Drive:

&quot;Its children are taught in school that Aurangazeb was the greatest ruler the Indian sub-continent had ever produced. Lurking inside every Pakistani ruler, military or politcal, there is an Aurangazeb.&quot;

I agree with your critique, but I do think it&#039;s important to point out that Pakistani children &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; taught extreme patriotism, uncritical religious acceptance, and exams testing their &quot;respect&quot; and &quot;reverence&quot; of Pakistani leaders and the army. There are Pakistanis who have studied the content of curriculums and written about what I just stated above. So while I agree with you that it&#039;s a gross generalization to say something like &quot;Lurking inside every Pakistani ruler, military or politcal, there is an Aurangazeb,&quot; and even a politically charged statement, it&#039;s not incorrect to say that what there isn&#039;t some level of indoctrination about the military mixing in politics, religious nationalism, patriotism, chauvenism, and yes, the glorification of the Mughal Empire in the subcontinent. It should be noted that in India, you see a mirror like movement in education as well, w/r/t to Partition, Mughal rule, Muslims, etc (this includes the secularists&#039; contribution to education, ie &quot;Partition was a mistake!&quot; which is something most Pakistanis do not agree with, and the Hindu Right as well, with their &quot;saffronization&quot; of history and reading of contemporary events).

And even in spite of all of this, you have Pakistanis,  who have thought for themselves, gone above and beyond, and are critical of the flawed and deeply ideological instruction they have received. That these Pakistanis exist proves your critique that there isn&#039;t an Aurangazeb in every ruler, politicians, leader, or anyone of influence in Pakistan.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Its children are taught in school that Aurangazeb was the greatest ruler the Indian sub-continent had ever produced. Lurking inside every Pakistani ruler, military or politcal, there is an Aurangazeb.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with your critique, but I do think it&#8217;s important to point out that Pakistani children <i>are</i> taught extreme patriotism, uncritical religious acceptance, and exams testing their &#8220;respect&#8221; and &#8220;reverence&#8221; of Pakistani leaders and the army. There are Pakistanis who have studied the content of curriculums and written about what I just stated above. So while I agree with you that it&#8217;s a gross generalization to say something like &#8220;Lurking inside every Pakistani ruler, military or politcal, there is an Aurangazeb,&#8221; and even a politically charged statement, it&#8217;s not incorrect to say that what there isn&#8217;t some level of indoctrination about the military mixing in politics, religious nationalism, patriotism, chauvenism, and yes, the glorification of the Mughal Empire in the subcontinent. It should be noted that in India, you see a mirror like movement in education as well, w/r/t to Partition, Mughal rule, Muslims, etc (this includes the secularists&#8217; contribution to education, ie &#8220;Partition was a mistake!&#8221; which is something most Pakistanis do not agree with, and the Hindu Right as well, with their &#8220;saffronization&#8221; of history and reading of contemporary events).</p>
<p>And even in spite of all of this, you have Pakistanis,  who have thought for themselves, gone above and beyond, and are critical of the flawed and deeply ideological instruction they have received. That these Pakistanis exist proves your critique that there isn&#8217;t an Aurangazeb in every ruler, politicians, leader, or anyone of influence in Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He has handed control of the military to General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani who has so far been a trustworthy and loyal general under him.&quot;

And he has installed loyalists in other posts as well, like the Supreme Court, which flies in the face of having any independent branch which exercises independence and a check and balance. Mush&#039;s octopus-like reach into every institution in Pakistan, while putting a lid on those who have protested against him (NGO&#039;s, human rights activists, lawyers, judges, journalists, etc) is going to  be hard to remove.

But look at it this way. In India, the Emergency was similar (though the difference that has to be pointed out is that there wasn&#039;t an army hold over India as it is in Pakistan) but somehow, people were able to supercede that to certain extents. And even then, all that happened under Indira the dictator hasn&#039;t been  rectified today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He has handed control of the military to General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani who has so far been a trustworthy and loyal general under him.&#8221;</p>
<p>And he has installed loyalists in other posts as well, like the Supreme Court, which flies in the face of having any independent branch which exercises independence and a check and balance. Mush&#8217;s octopus-like reach into every institution in Pakistan, while putting a lid on those who have protested against him (NGO&#8217;s, human rights activists, lawyers, judges, journalists, etc) is going to  be hard to remove.</p>
<p>But look at it this way. In India, the Emergency was similar (though the difference that has to be pointed out is that there wasn&#8217;t an army hold over India as it is in Pakistan) but somehow, people were able to supercede that to certain extents. And even then, all that happened under Indira the dictator hasn&#8217;t been  rectified today.</p>
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		<title>By: shzad hussainah</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1587#comment-94138</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Musharaf is just brilliant for our country, as donot have any worth mentioning political leader with us. Look at Imran Khan, the dictator at field and what not he has done around the world with women and now champion of democracy and fighting for our rights. Allass.

God bless all of us</description>
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<p>God bless all of us</p>
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		<title>By: Tariq Siddiqui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tariq Siddiqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its always been hunky dory before christmas, Musharaf has to look for post christmas days as it brings worries with the credit card statement.Has he left anything in his account to make himself credible till the next christmas?</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On second thought, he almsot looks like a terrorist here. Oh Army is behind me, you better not be on my bad books. A dictator thourgh and through.
I am amazed how can this guy ever be compared with Bhutto as in the feature linked on Fereeha&#039;s post. But the very fact that Bhutto&#039;s daughter is ready to srike a deal with him is testamount to low standard of ethics in Pakistani politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought, he almsot looks like a terrorist here. Oh Army is behind me, you better not be on my bad books. A dictator thourgh and through.<br />
I am amazed how can this guy ever be compared with Bhutto as in the feature linked on Fereeha&#8217;s post. But the very fact that Bhutto&#8217;s daughter is ready to srike a deal with him is testamount to low standard of ethics in Pakistani politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He has handed control of the military to General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani who has so far been a trustworthy and loyal general under him. Will he one day stab Musharraf in the back? Only time will tell.


Very good analysis here.

Look at the way the PResident Musharraf assures of the Army bcking in the video. I only dread this will come to haunt him some day.</description>
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<p>Very good analysis here.</p>
<p>Look at the way the PResident Musharraf assures of the Army bcking in the video. I only dread this will come to haunt him some day.</p>
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