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	<title>Comments on: Sajjad Karim</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy J. Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1547#comment-91047</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy J. Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I joined the Tories after leaving the Lib Dems. The mess the Lib Dems are in was entirely predictable and I decided to give David Cameron the benefit of the doubt. As a former Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate and Cllr in the North West, i know of Mr Karim and his local reputation and i&#039;ve also experienced the reality of some Tory attitudes. Suffice it to say, I predict a very unfortunate relationship.  This isn&#039;t newsworthy. It&#039;s simply about careers. The implications may be limited to a temporary membership blip in a few local Tory Associations just before candidate selections. Plus ca change...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined the Tories after leaving the Lib Dems. The mess the Lib Dems are in was entirely predictable and I decided to give David Cameron the benefit of the doubt. As a former Lib Dem Parliamentary candidate and Cllr in the North West, i know of Mr Karim and his local reputation and i&#8217;ve also experienced the reality of some Tory attitudes. Suffice it to say, I predict a very unfortunate relationship.  This isn&#8217;t newsworthy. It&#8217;s simply about careers. The implications may be limited to a temporary membership blip in a few local Tory Associations just before candidate selections. Plus ca change&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many other muslims support Mr Karim&#039;s own &quot;gay-friendly&quot; attitudes..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many other muslims support Mr Karim&#8217;s own &#8220;gay-friendly&#8221; attitudes..</p>
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		<title>By: Joy1</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1547#comment-91021</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny, 

Look at this blog and read it and who is it publicising hahahah


http://hunterandshooter.blogspot.com/2007/11/lib-dem-mep-joins-conservatives.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny, </p>
<p>Look at this blog and read it and who is it publicising hahahah</p>
<p><a href="http://hunterandshooter.blogspot.com/2007/11/lib-dem-mep-joins-conservatives.html" rel="nofollow">http://hunterandshooter.blogspot.com/2007/11/lib-dem-mep-joins-conservatives.html</a></p>
<p>Joy1</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1547#comment-90898</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies to my Welsh and Scottish friends - if anyone is offended I am happy to spend more time and add to the list, so no one feels left out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to my Welsh and Scottish friends &#8211; if anyone is offended I am happy to spend more time and add to the list, so no one feels left out.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1547#comment-90897</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raul, that&#039;s rather a weak position to take. Perhaps if you were importing politicians, maybe. Have you not heard of the various groupings such as the Tafia (welsh political mafia), their scottish counterpart etc., and the same applies to city-wide politics. It goes on everywhere, that is the failing of politics in the country. Apply that to any country. 

When there is no purpose other than staying in power, then democracy is nothing but a tool.

So Raul reconsider. It may well be a racist stance, or an ignorant one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raul, that&#8217;s rather a weak position to take. Perhaps if you were importing politicians, maybe. Have you not heard of the various groupings such as the Tafia (welsh political mafia), their scottish counterpart etc., and the same applies to city-wide politics. It goes on everywhere, that is the failing of politics in the country. Apply that to any country. </p>
<p>When there is no purpose other than staying in power, then democracy is nothing but a tool.</p>
<p>So Raul reconsider. It may well be a racist stance, or an ignorant one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1547#comment-90892</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Sajjad Karim had any honour he would resign. Karim was elected as a Liberal Democrat under the party list system. Therefore he owes most of his votes to the fact that those that voted for the Lib Dems wanted a Lib Dem MP to represent them. By switching to the Conservatives and not immediatly quitting in order to gain a fresh mandate, Karim has betrayed his &#039;constituents&#039;. I find this sort of thing appalling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Sajjad Karim had any honour he would resign. Karim was elected as a Liberal Democrat under the party list system. Therefore he owes most of his votes to the fact that those that voted for the Lib Dems wanted a Lib Dem MP to represent them. By switching to the Conservatives and not immediatly quitting in order to gain a fresh mandate, Karim has betrayed his &#8216;constituents&#8217;. I find this sort of thing appalling.</p>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny may be kidding but have enough asian MPs and UK will degenerate into another badly managed third world country like hmmn... let&#039;s say India or Pakistan. There will be a VVIP culture akin to feudalism, intrigue, and monumental corruption backed by self serving pretense of the worst kind. Politicians as a whole may be nasty but asian politicians take it to a whole new level.

This comes across as racist but unfortunately its the truth and few asians will deny this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny may be kidding but have enough asian MPs and UK will degenerate into another badly managed third world country like hmmn&#8230; let&#8217;s say India or Pakistan. There will be a VVIP culture akin to feudalism, intrigue, and monumental corruption backed by self serving pretense of the worst kind. Politicians as a whole may be nasty but asian politicians take it to a whole new level.</p>
<p>This comes across as racist but unfortunately its the truth and few asians will deny this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;OK, Sunny, is it your advice, then, that we should generally avoid selecting asian males as candidates if we can possibly help it?&lt;/i&gt;

Of course not, I was kidding around. 

This smacks more of Tory opportunism than anything else. I mean, they persuaded those 5 Labour councillors to defect during the Southall by-election and, as I predicted, it made no difference to the results. The Tories just want to look more ethnic friendly by attracting any brown candidate that will change his/her tune when the opportunity arises.

What you need is strong, principled candidates, regardless of colour. But then the Libdems don&#039;t have a good record of reaching out to ethnic minorities (relatively) so the party has no one else to blame for its under-representation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>OK, Sunny, is it your advice, then, that we should generally avoid selecting asian males as candidates if we can possibly help it?</i></p>
<p>Of course not, I was kidding around. </p>
<p>This smacks more of Tory opportunism than anything else. I mean, they persuaded those 5 Labour councillors to defect during the Southall by-election and, as I predicted, it made no difference to the results. The Tories just want to look more ethnic friendly by attracting any brown candidate that will change his/her tune when the opportunity arises.</p>
<p>What you need is strong, principled candidates, regardless of colour. But then the Libdems don&#8217;t have a good record of reaching out to ethnic minorities (relatively) so the party has no one else to blame for its under-representation.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1547#comment-90873</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well spotted Joe Otten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well spotted Joe Otten.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1547#comment-90872</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you expect - he is a politician. 

Sunny, I don&#039;t accept your slur that most asian male politicians will sell their grandmother. On the other hand if you&#039;d said all politicians....You&#039;ll see what I mean when you go through the front bench on both sides of the house.

As for Rupa&#039;s blog - how very silly or naive she really is. Trotting out the line spun by her party no doubt. Better she spend time developing policy (if its still allowed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect &#8211; he is a politician. </p>
<p>Sunny, I don&#8217;t accept your slur that most asian male politicians will sell their grandmother. On the other hand if you&#8217;d said all politicians&#8230;.You&#8217;ll see what I mean when you go through the front bench on both sides of the house.</p>
<p>As for Rupa&#8217;s blog &#8211; how very silly or naive she really is. Trotting out the line spun by her party no doubt. Better she spend time developing policy (if its still allowed).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Otten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Otten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Sunny, is it your advice, then, that we should generally avoid selecting asian males as candidates if we can possibly help it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Sunny, is it your advice, then, that we should generally avoid selecting asian males as candidates if we can possibly help it?</p>
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		<title>By: Metatone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metatone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he&#039;s motivated by thoughts of moving into Westminster politics. Let&#039;s face it, if you&#039;re interested in European politics, Cameron&#039;s Tories (allied to the right of the right of the right in Europe) are hardly a good place to be.

But, equally, if you want to get a Westminster seat, the Tories are streets ahead of the Lib Dems.

And, yes I&#039;m assessing him as an unprincipled opportunist, because that&#039;s what he looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he&#8217;s motivated by thoughts of moving into Westminster politics. Let&#8217;s face it, if you&#8217;re interested in European politics, Cameron&#8217;s Tories (allied to the right of the right of the right in Europe) are hardly a good place to be.</p>
<p>But, equally, if you want to get a Westminster seat, the Tories are streets ahead of the Lib Dems.</p>
<p>And, yes I&#8217;m assessing him as an unprincipled opportunist, because that&#8217;s what he looks like.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re only now realising most Asian (male) candidates will sell their grandmothers for more power? I kid, but only just.

Each party should judge a person on their merit of course, although I do find it amusing to see how much the Tories are trying their best to attract  minority candidates. Maybe it will force the Libdems to pull up their socks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re only now realising most Asian (male) candidates will sell their grandmothers for more power? I kid, but only just.</p>
<p>Each party should judge a person on their merit of course, although I do find it amusing to see how much the Tories are trying their best to attract  minority candidates. Maybe it will force the Libdems to pull up their socks.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Otten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Otten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious? If only. Don&#039;t you think this could backfire on the campaigns in all parties for greater ethnic diversity among parliamentary candidates? Of course it is not fair or right that Saj&#039;s behaviour should reflect on other BME candidates, but it will happen anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious? If only. Don&#8217;t you think this could backfire on the campaigns in all parties for greater ethnic diversity among parliamentary candidates? Of course it is not fair or right that Saj&#8217;s behaviour should reflect on other BME candidates, but it will happen anyway.</p>
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