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		<title>By: Earth Satelite</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-2#comment-92666</link>
		<dc:creator>Earth Satelite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Earth Satelite...&lt;/strong&gt;

I couldn&#039;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting...</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-2#comment-87774</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and &#039;defined&#039; groups end up constraining individuals, as we all know! or they try and define them to a certain extent. perhaps that&#039;s not a problem for some people, but it is for me, im not at all easily defined :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and &#8216;defined&#8217; groups end up constraining individuals, as we all know! or they try and define them to a certain extent. perhaps that&#8217;s not a problem for some people, but it is for me, im not at all easily defined <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-2#comment-87773</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps people have an interesting idea of collaboration - it seems to be the same old one, you come to us. Otherwise its not collaboration! Yes it will be interesting to have one site that draws together different bloggers, its an extra offer. but its hardly as if by people not going to that site, they are not collaborating. The vision i want - is for collaboration between &lt;strong&gt;individuals&lt;/strong&gt; - not just collaboration within a wider, central group. I&#039;m not saying participating within the wider group detracts - however, it is important to realise that it is the &lt;em&gt;networking&lt;/em&gt; of individuals that is significant, not the &#039;group&#039; formation per se.  
that&#039;s what i find interesting about the net. 

good points from Rumbold</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps people have an interesting idea of collaboration &#8211; it seems to be the same old one, you come to us. Otherwise its not collaboration! Yes it will be interesting to have one site that draws together different bloggers, its an extra offer. but its hardly as if by people not going to that site, they are not collaborating. The vision i want &#8211; is for collaboration between <strong>individuals</strong> &#8211; not just collaboration within a wider, central group. I&#8217;m not saying participating within the wider group detracts &#8211; however, it is important to realise that it is the <em>networking</em> of individuals that is significant, not the &#8216;group&#8217; formation per se.<br />
that&#8217;s what i find interesting about the net. </p>
<p>good points from Rumbold</p>
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		<title>By: TheFriendlyInfidel</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-2#comment-87769</link>
		<dc:creator>TheFriendlyInfidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with your new project Sunny.

TFI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with your new project Sunny.</p>
<p>TFI</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-2#comment-87720</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As for where my writing will be concentrated…. &lt;b&gt;well I’m junking some earlier projects&lt;/b&gt; and focusing more on PP, LC and CIF&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for where my writing will be concentrated…. <b>well I’m junking some earlier projects</b> and focusing more on PP, LC and CIF</p></blockquote>
<p>Which ones?</p>
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		<title>By: The left-of-centre blogosphere stirs &#171; I&#8217;m Simon Dickson.</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-2#comment-87717</link>
		<dc:creator>The left-of-centre blogosphere stirs &#171; I&#8217;m Simon Dickson.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an eye on LiberalConspiracy.org - the new &#8216;liberal-left&#8216; &#8216;hub&#8216;/&#8217;super-blog&#8216; launched today by pickled politician Sunny Hundal. It sets out to be a &#8216;political [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an eye on LiberalConspiracy.org &#8211; the new &#8216;liberal-left&#8216; &#8216;hub&#8216;/&#8217;super-blog&#8216; launched today by pickled politician Sunny Hundal. It sets out to be a &#8216;political [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rupahuq</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-2#comment-87711</link>
		<dc:creator>rupahuq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heard the PM thing on the way back from work - good work. Am surprised Eddie Mair was so nice to you Sunny. He is on record as saying that bloggers do not deserve airspace on the BBC - if you don&#039;t believe me see 
http://www.labourhome.org/story/2007/11/2/95552/7246</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heard the PM thing on the way back from work &#8211; good work. Am surprised Eddie Mair was so nice to you Sunny. He is on record as saying that bloggers do not deserve airspace on the BBC &#8211; if you don&#8217;t believe me see<br />
<a href="http://www.labourhome.org/story/2007/11/2/95552/7246" rel="nofollow">http://www.labourhome.org/story/2007/11/2/95552/7246</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgoth #33,

Good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgoth #33,</p>
<p>Good article.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the rejoinder at the end put it perfectly: why bother having leftist blogs when the left has the BBC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the rejoinder at the end put it perfectly: why bother having leftist blogs when the left has the BBC.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisc</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-1#comment-87666</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops I mean to say liberal (tiny font) LEFT (big font)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops I mean to say liberal (tiny font) LEFT (big font)!</p>
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		<title>By: chrisc</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1497/comment-page-1#comment-87665</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear.

Are you really saying that you have more in common with the far left than the mainstream right?

More in common with, I don&#039;t know, George Galloway than with David Cameron?

Not so much Liberal Left as Liberal (font 8) LEFT (font 32)?

Surely not?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear.</p>
<p>Are you really saying that you have more in common with the far left than the mainstream right?</p>
<p>More in common with, I don&#8217;t know, George Galloway than with David Cameron?</p>
<p>Not so much Liberal Left as Liberal (font <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> LEFT (font 32)?</p>
<p>Surely not?!</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone missed it you can listen to it here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/

The second clip is Guido. It&#039;s interesting too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone missed it you can listen to it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/</a></p>
<p>The second clip is Guido. It&#8217;s interesting too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny:

Good performance on the PM programme. You were articulate and sounded relaxed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny:</p>
<p>Good performance on the PM programme. You were articulate and sounded relaxed.</p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
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		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting Sunny, you have greater quibble with conservatives rather than far-left who often come across as anti-semitic, who support vile totalitarian regimes, and support terrorist action for the &#039;revolution&#039; (change of the current regime &#039;by any means necessary&#039;)

Though I am intrigued as to what ideas need to be challenged on the right.1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Sunny, you have greater quibble with conservatives rather than far-left who often come across as anti-semitic, who support vile totalitarian regimes, and support terrorist action for the &#8216;revolution&#8217; (change of the current regime &#8216;by any means necessary&#8217;)</p>
<p>Though I am intrigued as to what ideas need to be challenged on the right.1</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(posting from someone&#039;s office)

There is a grey area to be treaded of course but there&#039;s no argument over the fact that I have no tolerance for stupid, silly, abusive, sarcastic etc comments. There&#039;s no intellectual reason why I should tolerate such rubbish.

Will we then become a bunc of lefties not being able to agree on anything, or a Stalinist organisation dictating a party line where everyone has to agree?

The answer is neither. I don&#039;t dictate any party lines but neither do I want it to be a venture where the left fights with the far-left and forgets that the main ideas that need to be challenged are on the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(posting from someone&#8217;s office)</p>
<p>There is a grey area to be treaded of course but there&#8217;s no argument over the fact that I have no tolerance for stupid, silly, abusive, sarcastic etc comments. There&#8217;s no intellectual reason why I should tolerate such rubbish.</p>
<p>Will we then become a bunc of lefties not being able to agree on anything, or a Stalinist organisation dictating a party line where everyone has to agree?</p>
<p>The answer is neither. I don&#8217;t dictate any party lines but neither do I want it to be a venture where the left fights with the far-left and forgets that the main ideas that need to be challenged are on the right.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisc</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Labour is the natural party of the middle classes&quot;

Eh?  I think not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Labour is the natural party of the middle classes&#8221;</p>
<p>Eh?  I think not!</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon, I&#039;ve long believed this to be the New Labour project. It would have been all done and dusted had it not been for Blair&#039;s wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon, I&#8217;ve long believed this to be the New Labour project. It would have been all done and dusted had it not been for Blair&#8217;s wars.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a really good way of characterising it Refresh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really good way of characterising it Refresh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;hopefully, there would be some room for actual collaboration rather than setting up boundaries&quot;

Sonia, this has already happened in the form of New Labour. Labour is the natural party of the middle classes, and the Tories are the pressure group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;hopefully, there would be some room for actual collaboration rather than setting up boundaries&#8221;</p>
<p>Sonia, this has already happened in the form of New Labour. Labour is the natural party of the middle classes, and the Tories are the pressure group.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32, the right will unite against it,


seeing as they seem to be seting themselves up to mirror the current polarity that exists, i suppose so too. 
hopefully, there would be some room for actual collaboration rather than setting up boundaries, but hey. that would be expecting too much from the online medium now wouldn&#039;t it - expecting it to be able to allow us to get past our existing barriers and boxes, if we want to perpetuate such dichotomies, what is the medium to do about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32, the right will unite against it,</p>
<p>seeing as they seem to be seting themselves up to mirror the current polarity that exists, i suppose so too.<br />
hopefully, there would be some room for actual collaboration rather than setting up boundaries, but hey. that would be expecting too much from the online medium now wouldn&#8217;t it &#8211; expecting it to be able to allow us to get past our existing barriers and boxes, if we want to perpetuate such dichotomies, what is the medium to do about it?</p>
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