Comments on: Bloggers of the left, unite!

By: Healthy Lifestyle Features

Healthy Lifestyle Features — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:39:02 +0000

Healthy Lifestyle Features…

I couldn’t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting…

By: Morgoth

Morgoth — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:20:00 +0000

on what basis do you have issues with this comparison?

On the basis of fact, really. Just because the anti-war brigade have created their own fantastical reality in which the US are as bad as the terrorists doesn’t actually mean that its the actualitie. Left-wing views aren’t facts, y’know (an issue the BBC has in spades). You and Kismet are coming across as pale imitations of Scott Beauchamp, y’know.

But to get back to the point in hand, apart from the Reds, what other left-wing blogs are there? LabourHome is a pale imitation of ConservativeHome, and the various blogs Sunny links to are simple pale nulabour clones who no one actually reads. The most successful left-wing blogs, Harry’s Place and the Popinjays have ditched large chunks of the left (not surprisingly, mind you), and MediaLens is a self-asorbed Chumpsky groupie site. What future for the left in blogging in the UK?

In the states its the same. Daily Kos is filled with the vilest anti-semitic conspiracy mongering, and that is what passes for leftist blogging in the States. Where is the left-wing equivalent of Instapundit, for example? Or LGF? Or National Review Online?

Enquiring, well-funded minds want to know.

By: Praguetory

Praguetory — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:47:41 +0000

Having denounced conspiracy theories your article continues with

“Guido is, in my view, a useful attack dog for those really pulling the strings.”

You’re beyond parody.

By: Sofi

Sofi — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:56:26 +0000

>>What I take issue with is you saying that the US are behaving as badly as terrorists in Iraq

on what basis do you have issues with this comparison?

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:39:18 +0000

Sunny:

“Rumbold, thereâ€™s plenty more of bloggers I would unite with. The SWP and the other Trots are only a small part of this (coming) alliance.”

Fair enough- thanks for the clarification.

Kismet:

“Rumbold, yeah, I butted in on your question to Sunny, but thereâ€™s no way in hell Iâ€™m going to stand for being branded a bragger about the bloodshed caused.”

Aargh! For the last time I am not accusing you of supporting terrorists. I know that you think they are evil. What I take issue with is you saying that the US are behaving as badly as terrorists in Iraq.

By: Sofi

Sofi — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:39:16 +0000

oh nooo, not that flawed talk of liberal interventionism again..please no!!

By: Sofi

Sofi — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:37:34 +0000

actually, i quite agree that we shouldnt need to side with anybody. nor should we classify everything to be lefties/rightie thinking; it unnecessarily simplifies things at the very least.

By: Kismet Hardy

Kismet Hardy — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:34:18 +0000

Rumbold, yeah, I butted in on your question to Sunny, but there’s no way in hell I’m going to stand for being branded a bragger about the bloodshed caused. I don’t have a Told You So placard to match my Say No To War one. I’m not making excuses like you keep making. I’m expressing my disgust that people have died because people like you said you were going to save them

By: Sunny

Sunny — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:29:12 +0000

Rumbold, there’s plenty more of bloggers I would unite with. The SWP and the other Trots are only a small part of this (coming) alliance.

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:16:13 +0000

Ignore #39.

Kismet:

“Why is everything so â€˜this or thatâ€™ with you?

If you donâ€™t agree with this (war) you must agree with that (tyranny).”

My question to Sunny was legitimate, as he had called for the lefties to unite. Lenin’s Tomb is a leftie, so why was the question objectionable?

I do not have the ‘with us or against us’ mentality. What I have a problem with is your form of relativism, which states that the US are as bad as those who set out to murder civilians then brag about it afterwards.

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:12:36 +0000

Kismet:

“Why is everything so â€˜this or thatâ€™ with you?

If you donâ€™t agree with this (war) you must agree with that (tyranny).”

By: Kismet Hardy

Kismet Hardy — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:08:59 +0000

“Who would you choose then?”

Why is everything so ‘this or that’ with you?

If you don’t agree with this (war) you must agree with that (tyranny)

There is another way: they’re both wrong. You can only come up with a better solution when you get your head round the fact that you don’t have to side with either

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:05:22 +0000

Sunny:

“Well, I wasnâ€™t advocating shacking up with the SWP actually. That alliance would last 5 minutes. Neither do I want to ally myself with someone proudly displaying the Hizballah & Hamas flags.”

Who would you choose then?

By: Sunny

Sunny — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:03:10 +0000

Stop talkig about the McCanns!!aaaargh, I hate that news story with a vengance.

Rumbold: Leninâ€™s Tomb is on the left. So is Pickled Politics. Why should they unite?

Well, I wasn’t advocating shacking up with the SWP actually. That alliance would last 5 minutes. Neither do I want to ally myself with someone proudly displaying the Hizballah & Hamas flags.

By: sonia

sonia — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:01:24 +0000

i think there is a good reason why people are interested in collaboration in decentralized ways, which is actually harnessing the power of networks – in ‘new’ ways, rather than just imitating the old’ Politics with a big P ways.

because we don’t want to repeat the same old cycle. yes we may have less power than the ‘right’ in the traditional understanding of political power, but then, we would be sleazy Prime Ministers in training, and some of us at least, are not interested.

besides, there is plenty of collaboration happening.

By: Kismet Hardy

Kismet Hardy — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:51:02 +0000

They’re the only couple that lost a child this year, you know

By: Leon

Leon — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:35:11 +0000

Those who were paying their mortgage via the slush fund?

By: Kismet Hardy

Kismet Hardy — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:26:19 +0000

But who will care for Maddie’s family’s plight without them?

By: Morgoth

Morgoth — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:21:11 +0000

Fuck the Daily Express Readers!

By: Kismet Hardy

Kismet Hardy — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:46:22 +0000

Morgoth, don’t be so harsh. Won’t someone please think of the poor Daily Express readers?