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Chief Rabbi also favours constitution?

Posted By Sunny On 22nd October, 2007 @ 5:55 pm In British Identity | 7 Comments

I’m in favour of a British constitution, as I have briefly said here many times. Reading his piece in [1] The Times today it sounds as if the Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks is also in favour of one, although he’s being very vague about it. He says we need “a covenant” but doesn’t exactly elaborate on what it could be. As I stated in my [2] short piece for Prospect magazine recently, it can only take shape in form of a constitution.

7 Comments To "Chief Rabbi also favours constitution?"

#1 Comment By Rumbold On 22nd October, 2007 @ 5:56 pm

We have a constitution- it is just not codified.

#2 Comment By Sunny On 22nd October, 2007 @ 5:58 pm

Well, ok, a properly codified constitution then…

#3 Comment By ChrisC On 23rd October, 2007 @ 9:00 am

See this interesting lecture from Prof Vernon Bogdanor.

It wouldn’t be easy - esp as EU law now supercedes UK law. Really worth reading to understand some of the issues.

[3] http://www.gresham.ac.uk/event.asp?PageId=4&EventId=534

#4 Comment By ChrisC On 23rd October, 2007 @ 9:06 am

(It’s very well written too!)

#5 Comment By sonia On 23rd October, 2007 @ 11:55 am

Good point from Rumbold.
The Rabbi wants a Covenant??? and you assumed this to be - possibly - the same thing as your idea of a codified constitution?

Hmm, well if that’s so - vague as it is - its getting rather worrying now. All we need next is the MCB saying yes, they are in favour of this covenant/code and who knows what we will end up with.

I think sunny, you will find that if you read the Life in the UK Citizenship Test handbook, they ( on behalf of the government) claim that they are VERY CLEAR about the rights and responsibilities of a UK Citizen. Perhaps you should look into it. I hear a lot from people who are born citizens, that because all this isn’t “communicated” to them in the same way it is to “new” citizens, they are somewhat confused. Some have even said they would like to take this test/read the handbook at least.

Since people seem to be confused about their rights and responsibilities - and to start with - probably don’t have a clue about Parliament, who can vote in the UK, devolved administrations etc. - perhaps they need to be given this information through a course or something.

#6 Comment By sonia On 23rd October, 2007 @ 11:57 am

Or at the very least - before you go around saying all this about no one being clear about rights and responsibilities - ( well you are part of the media, i suppose it is your job) you might want to do some research into what it is they actually tell new citizens, to see if they are clear or not. and where you then think the gaps are.

Otherwise, it doesn’t really mean very much. Its all really vague, you know.

#7 Comment By sonia On 23rd October, 2007 @ 12:18 pm

Okay - this i find very revealing: the Times story’s strapline:

“Without a common ethnicity or a single overarching religious system, we need a new national story to tell us who we are”

Oh..right..so - this #’national’ story is going to go along the same lines as - previously - race ’solidarity’ and religion ’solidarity’ ?

OOH now I really can’t wait for it. Centuries of trying those other 2 out - and look, now, we have to spend all our time battling racism and religious supremacy. Oh but they were started off with the best possible intentions. Oh, wait, so is this round.

again, we dont seem to be learning very much from history.

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[1] The Times today: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2706821.ece
[2] short piece: http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1439
[3] http://www.gresham.ac.uk/event.asp?PageId=4&EventId=534: http://www.gresham.ac.uk/event.asp?PageId=4&EventId=534