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		<title>By: sahil</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85093</link>
		<dc:creator>sahil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who still think that James Watson has scientific evidence backing his assertion, check these links:

http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2007/10/james-watson-master-of-scientific-gaffe.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2694632.ece

&quot;At a book launch at the Royal Society, Dr Watson said: “To all those who have drawn the inference from my words that Africa, as a continent, is somehow genetically inferior, I can only apologise unreservedly.

“That is not what I meant. More importantly, there is no scientific basis for such a belief.”

He went on: “I cannot understand how I could have said what I am quoted as having said. I can certainly understand why people reading those words have reacted in the ways they have.” &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who still think that James Watson has scientific evidence backing his assertion, check these links:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2007/10/james-watson-master-of-scientific-gaffe.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2007/10/james-watson-master-of-scientific-gaffe.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2694632.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2694632.ece</a></p>
<p>&#8220;At a book launch at the Royal Society, Dr Watson said: “To all those who have drawn the inference from my words that Africa, as a continent, is somehow genetically inferior, I can only apologise unreservedly.</p>
<p>“That is not what I meant. More importantly, there is no scientific basis for such a belief.”</p>
<p>He went on: “I cannot understand how I could have said what I am quoted as having said. I can certainly understand why people reading those words have reacted in the ways they have.” &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85079</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;well Ravi..there is that old and very wise saying
“Sun, sex and sangria”&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s wise because it is in the right order. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;well Ravi..there is that old and very wise saying<br />
“Sun, sex and sangria”</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s wise because it is in the right order. <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ravi Naik @ 113,

Now, that is something worth spending research money on! Bugger this sterile nonsense about brains. I say this as a paleface with an enormous IQ and no alpha male status whatsoever.

I think I&#039;ll do my own research, where&#039;s that travel brochure.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravi Naik @ 113,</p>
<p>Now, that is something worth spending research money on! Bugger this sterile nonsense about brains. I say this as a paleface with an enormous IQ and no alpha male status whatsoever.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll do my own research, where&#8217;s that travel brochure&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well Ravi..there is that old and very wise saying
&quot;Sun, sex and sangria&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well Ravi..there is that old and very wise saying<br />
&#8220;Sun, sex and sangria&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85071</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I found something else from James Watson. Apparently, he gave a lecture where he claimed that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v7/n2/full/nm0201_137b.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dark skinned people have larger libido than light skinned people&lt;/a&gt;. That is, melanin is responsible for making you very horny. He actually said that if you want to get a surge in libido, just get some sun. Surprisingly, his research was dismissed as unreliable and flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I found something else from James Watson. Apparently, he gave a lecture where he claimed that <a href="http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v7/n2/full/nm0201_137b.html" rel="nofollow">dark skinned people have larger libido than light skinned people</a>. That is, melanin is responsible for making you very horny. He actually said that if you want to get a surge in libido, just get some sun. Surprisingly, his research was dismissed as unreliable and flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85066</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;There would be if I was the one blowing people up, Sid.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t be silly, Morgoth. If you were the one blowing people up, you wouldn&#039;t be in a position to be profiled or discriminated afterwards.

But don&#039;t you empathise with people who cannot travel, who are harrassed in airports, or falsely imprisonned because they happen to be brown, share a terrorist name, or follow the same religion - and do the same things you do, like write letters and meet people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;There would be if I was the one blowing people up, Sid.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t be silly, Morgoth. If you were the one blowing people up, you wouldn&#8217;t be in a position to be profiled or discriminated afterwards.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t you empathise with people who cannot travel, who are harrassed in airports, or falsely imprisonned because they happen to be brown, share a terrorist name, or follow the same religion &#8211; and do the same things you do, like write letters and meet people?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisC,

from your sideswipes at the EU and touching faith in the abstract power of free trade it&#039;s easy to see where you&#039;re coming from. Though I would point out that the EU is first and formeost a free-trade area and that progress towards global free trade through the WTO is accelerated by the EU having a single negotiating voice.

I&#039;m going to assume that you believe fervently in liberty so would be natural supporter of the Science Museum exercising its free choice to cancel an invitation it had freely made - probably on the grounds of the lack of courtesy of their guest. There is no banning or cencorship involved, afterall Watson has made his views known and we are all debating them.

His views on evolution and intelligence may or may not be reasonable, but saying: 

&quot;he hoped that everyone was equal, but countered that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”

is just bigotry pure and simple.

By the way, he&#039;s not the only one with an unrealistic idea of the speed of evolution on intelligence, behaviour and/or personality traits. Try this guy for size:

http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2280334.ece

apparently a couple hundred years is all it takes to become a super-race...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisC,</p>
<p>from your sideswipes at the EU and touching faith in the abstract power of free trade it&#8217;s easy to see where you&#8217;re coming from. Though I would point out that the EU is first and formeost a free-trade area and that progress towards global free trade through the WTO is accelerated by the EU having a single negotiating voice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to assume that you believe fervently in liberty so would be natural supporter of the Science Museum exercising its free choice to cancel an invitation it had freely made &#8211; probably on the grounds of the lack of courtesy of their guest. There is no banning or cencorship involved, afterall Watson has made his views known and we are all debating them.</p>
<p>His views on evolution and intelligence may or may not be reasonable, but saying: </p>
<p>&#8220;he hoped that everyone was equal, but countered that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”</p>
<p>is just bigotry pure and simple.</p>
<p>By the way, he&#8217;s not the only one with an unrealistic idea of the speed of evolution on intelligence, behaviour and/or personality traits. Try this guy for size:</p>
<p><a href="http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2280334.ece" rel="nofollow">http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article2280334.ece</a></p>
<p>apparently a couple hundred years is all it takes to become a super-race&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kapow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kapow!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgoth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85044</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There would be if I was the one blowing people up, Sid.

But I&#039;m not, no matter how much the idea of pebbledashed Sid appeals to me. I&#039;m content with writing letters and meeting people instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There would be if I was the one blowing people up, Sid.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not, no matter how much the idea of pebbledashed Sid appeals to me. I&#8217;m content with writing letters and meeting people instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85043</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ravi,

There&#039;s a definite urge – don&#039;t you have it? – to say, Morgoth will have to suffer until he gets his house in order. What sort of suffering? Not letting him travel. Deportation – further down the road. Curtailing his freedoms. Strip-searching people who look like they&#039;re Goths or from Somerset ... Discriminatory stuff, until it hurts the whole community and they start getting tough with their children.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravi,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a definite urge – don&#8217;t you have it? – to say, Morgoth will have to suffer until he gets his house in order. What sort of suffering? Not letting him travel. Deportation – further down the road. Curtailing his freedoms. Strip-searching people who look like they&#8217;re Goths or from Somerset &#8230; Discriminatory stuff, until it hurts the whole community and they start getting tough with their children.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85038</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgoth if that&#039;s what you want to believe in that&#039;s up to you...for my part, humility could teach me not to be a bitch or make an arse of myself. It does not make me meek, or an apologist..but helps me to try (and yes sometimes it&#039;s hard) to see things from someone else&#039;s point of view. 
You still annoy the crap out of me though...and I still don&#039;t agree with what you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgoth if that&#8217;s what you want to believe in that&#8217;s up to you&#8230;for my part, humility could teach me not to be a bitch or make an arse of myself. It does not make me meek, or an apologist..but helps me to try (and yes sometimes it&#8217;s hard) to see things from someone else&#8217;s point of view.<br />
You still annoy the crap out of me though&#8230;and I still don&#8217;t agree with what you say.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85037</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sid, I don&#039;t know about Morgoth&#039;s history, but he has given decent contributions to this talk in #31 and #44. Even if you don&#039;t agree with his views, it feels like he is writing in good faith. Apart from his flamebait in #83, I don&#039;t think you handled that one very well in #85. If you accuse him of racism or supporting slavery 200 years ago, then you probably should back it up, otherwise such insults become meaningless. Not saying you are wrong, but I have also been called a racist as well (not by you) by decent people in Pickled Politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sid, I don&#8217;t know about Morgoth&#8217;s history, but he has given decent contributions to this talk in #31 and #44. Even if you don&#8217;t agree with his views, it feels like he is writing in good faith. Apart from his flamebait in #83, I don&#8217;t think you handled that one very well in #85. If you accuse him of racism or supporting slavery 200 years ago, then you probably should back it up, otherwise such insults become meaningless. Not saying you are wrong, but I have also been called a racist as well (not by you) by decent people in Pickled Politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgoth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85033</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a certain Anton LaVey said, humility is a weakness, Sofia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a certain Anton LaVey said, humility is a weakness, Sofia.</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1460/comment-page-3#comment-85030</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say a few ppl annoy me on this...not because of their views..but because of their arrogance. Morgoth being one..if he calls ppl stinking theists where&#039;s the humility in that. Morgoth, I&#039;m sure if you were sitting in front of those theists you wouldn&#039;t be so rude..ditto some of the rest...(me included if i&#039;ve ever said anything rude to anyone)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say a few ppl annoy me on this&#8230;not because of their views..but because of their arrogance. Morgoth being one..if he calls ppl stinking theists where&#8217;s the humility in that. Morgoth, I&#8217;m sure if you were sitting in front of those theists you wouldn&#8217;t be so rude..ditto some of the rest&#8230;(me included if i&#8217;ve ever said anything rude to anyone)..</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i admit the racism reference and the slavery line is abstract if you&#039;ve never seen Morgoth&#039;s in actio as the troll du jure at Harry&#039;s Place or regard liberal intervention as a sexy word for colonisation 21st century stylee, respectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i admit the racism reference and the slavery line is abstract if you&#8217;ve never seen Morgoth&#8217;s in actio as the troll du jure at Harry&#8217;s Place or regard liberal intervention as a sexy word for colonisation 21st century stylee, respectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Everyone, just chill. This is degenerating into an unnecessary slanging match, and is exactly what happens when someone relatively new turns up and starts hurling off-topic insults&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jai, if you really want everyone to shut up, don&#039;t blame it all on the new guy. Let&#039;s all agree that no one likes to be called a racist or to support slavery.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Everyone, just chill. This is degenerating into an unnecessary slanging match, and is exactly what happens when someone relatively new turns up and starts hurling off-topic insults&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Jai, if you really want everyone to shut up, don&#8217;t blame it all on the new guy. Let&#8217;s all agree that no one likes to be called a racist or to support slavery.  <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel reprimanded and i like it ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel reprimanded and i like it <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jai:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Sid is a decent guy, so is Rumbold, and although there are obviously differences of opinion in certain topics, you guys are both on the “same side” in terms of being fundamentally decent people.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is very kind of you Jai, and you are right. I will shut up now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jai:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Sid is a decent guy, so is Rumbold, and although there are obviously differences of opinion in certain topics, you guys are both on the “same side” in terms of being fundamentally decent people.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That is very kind of you Jai, and you are right. I will shut up now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jai - I like Razib, he’s clever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah he&#039;s a great guy all-round. Very smart and extremely funny too. And a good bloke in general (ie. not the &quot;nasty smart/funny&quot; type).

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Everyone, just chill. This is degenerating into an unnecessary slanging match, and is exactly what happens when someone relatively new turns up and starts hurling off-topic insults referring to &quot;stinking theists&quot; and so on, which just creates a toxic environment as other people pile in. 

It doesn&#039;t elevate the discourse so just pull back. Sid is a decent guy, so is Rumbold, and although there are obviously differences of opinion in certain topics, you guys are both on the &quot;same side&quot; in terms of being fundamentally decent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jai &#8211; I like Razib, he’s clever.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah he&#8217;s a great guy all-round. Very smart and extremely funny too. And a good bloke in general (ie. not the &#8220;nasty smart/funny&#8221; type).</p>
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<p>Everyone, just chill. This is degenerating into an unnecessary slanging match, and is exactly what happens when someone relatively new turns up and starts hurling off-topic insults referring to &#8220;stinking theists&#8221; and so on, which just creates a toxic environment as other people pile in. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t elevate the discourse so just pull back. Sid is a decent guy, so is Rumbold, and although there are obviously differences of opinion in certain topics, you guys are both on the &#8220;same side&#8221; in terms of being fundamentally decent people.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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So Sunny, who also supports liberal interventionism, in in favour of slavery? Interesting. As is, apparently, the founder of Medicine Sans Frontiers, Nelson Mandela and a host of others. All pro-slavery. Wow.</description>
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<p>So Sunny, who also supports liberal interventionism, in in favour of slavery? Interesting. As is, apparently, the founder of Medicine Sans Frontiers, Nelson Mandela and a host of others. All pro-slavery. Wow.</p>
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