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	<title>Comments on: On Martin Amis</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Donald</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-85161</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read books. I admire Martin Amis very much, and get tremendous pleasure from his funny and moving novels, and collections of insightful criticism. My favourite? &quot;The Information&quot;. 
I submit this in the interests of balance.
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read books. I admire Martin Amis very much, and get tremendous pleasure from his funny and moving novels, and collections of insightful criticism. My favourite? &#8220;The Information&#8221;.<br />
I submit this in the interests of balance.<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Muhamad [peace be upon me]</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-85053</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhamad [peace be upon me]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Cid, waddya mean by &#039;let&#039;s not start burning books&#039;? Ich bin konfuzdt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Cid, waddya mean by &#8216;let&#8217;s not start burning books&#8217;? Ich bin konfuzdt.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84643</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muhamad
Let&#039;s not start burning books eh?
A lot of great historical figures of the past have blemishes to their name by modern standards.
I think Lucky Jim is a good read and a great reminder of a more gentle age a la Ealing comedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muhamad<br />
Let&#8217;s not start burning books eh?<br />
A lot of great historical figures of the past have blemishes to their name by modern standards.<br />
I think Lucky Jim is a good read and a great reminder of a more gentle age a la Ealing comedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin Amis is a dick - end of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Amis is a dick &#8211; end of.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhamad [peace be upon me] Lodhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84641</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhamad [peace be upon me] Lodhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never read Amis fil or Amis pere, and don&#039;t intend to...
Talking about racism, has anybody come across Prof. Watson&#039;s [Genome Project] prouncements? According to this chap, there&#039;s a scale of human reasoning (zi Arischman being on top) with Africans being at the bottom of it all. Presumably this is genetic? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never read Amis fil or Amis pere, and don&#8217;t intend to&#8230;<br />
Talking about racism, has anybody come across Prof. Watson&#8217;s [Genome Project] prouncements? According to this chap, there&#8217;s a scale of human reasoning (zi Arischman being on top) with Africans being at the bottom of it all. Presumably this is genetic? <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bikhair aka taqiyyah</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84578</link>
		<dc:creator>bikhair aka taqiyyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Cid,

&quot;I do. There was a certain moslem female writer you didnâ€™t like onceâ€¦
Hey, nobody is perfect.&quot;

Was it me? Was it me? Oh gosh darn, I hope it was me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Cid,</p>
<p>&#8220;I do. There was a certain moslem female writer you didnâ€™t like onceâ€¦<br />
Hey, nobody is perfect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was it me? Was it me? Oh gosh darn, I hope it was me!</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84544</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™ve never claimed to be a PC fanatic. But I donâ€™t remember making sexist comments.&lt;/i&gt;
I do. There was a certain moslem female writer you didn&#039;t like once...
Hey, nobody is perfect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iâ€™ve never claimed to be a PC fanatic. But I donâ€™t remember making sexist comments.</i><br />
I do. There was a certain moslem female writer you didn&#8217;t like once&#8230;<br />
Hey, nobody is perfect</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84542</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well sunny, its all relative, so im sure you didn&#039;t mean to be offensive to any of &#039;us&#039;, ( :-))but still, someone may construe something you said to be sexist. on some occasions, you have made some off the cuff remarks which could have been taken to indicate a &#039;oh you women..&#039; type attitude, which = depending on the degree to which it is done, some women could take exception to and deem &#039;sexist&#039;.

don&#039;t fret pet, i was just pointing it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well sunny, its all relative, so im sure you didn&#8217;t mean to be offensive to any of &#8216;us&#8217;, ( <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )but still, someone may construe something you said to be sexist. on some occasions, you have made some off the cuff remarks which could have been taken to indicate a &#8216;oh you women..&#8217; type attitude, which = depending on the degree to which it is done, some women could take exception to and deem &#8216;sexist&#8217;.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t fret pet, i was just pointing it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the rarse-klart you on about?</description>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84535</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;an emotional response to put people into deportation camps en-masse, yes.&lt;/i&gt;

Compare the Booker candidate Mohsin Hamid and his 9/11 novel:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/09/booker_club_the_reluctant_fund.html

&lt;i&gt;Whatever the truth, it struck me as brave that a writer should look into the events of the day in the unblinking way that Mohsin Hamid has done. Especially since he has his narrator say that he saw the tragedy - if only briefly - as cause for celebration. It takes guts to have a literary character we&#039;re expected to feel sympathy with to tell such unpalatable truths, even now.&lt;/i&gt;

Those emotional responses exist amongst pretty much everyone of normal human psychology. If in some particular circumstance you don&#039;t feel them, then either you are an outlier, or more likely it&#039;s just that the circumstances didn&#039;t match the trigger point you would need to feel like a member of a tribe under attack and wanting to hit back.

A Chelsea fan will not feel outrage when Liverpool are unfairly denied a penalty, will not want to punch the ref. 

Judge people by _what_ they do when their buttons are pressed, not on _whether_ their buttons have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>an emotional response to put people into deportation camps en-masse, yes.</i></p>
<p>Compare the Booker candidate Mohsin Hamid and his 9/11 novel:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/09/booker_club_the_reluctant_fund.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/09/booker_club_the_reluctant_fund.html</a></p>
<p><i>Whatever the truth, it struck me as brave that a writer should look into the events of the day in the unblinking way that Mohsin Hamid has done. Especially since he has his narrator say that he saw the tragedy &#8211; if only briefly &#8211; as cause for celebration. It takes guts to have a literary character we&#8217;re expected to feel sympathy with to tell such unpalatable truths, even now.</i></p>
<p>Those emotional responses exist amongst pretty much everyone of normal human psychology. If in some particular circumstance you don&#8217;t feel them, then either you are an outlier, or more likely it&#8217;s just that the circumstances didn&#8217;t match the trigger point you would need to feel like a member of a tribe under attack and wanting to hit back.</p>
<p>A Chelsea fan will not feel outrage when Liverpool are unfairly denied a penalty, will not want to punch the ref. </p>
<p>Judge people by _what_ they do when their buttons are pressed, not on _whether_ their buttons have been.</p>
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		<title>By: Smoker in Dubai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84533</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoker in Dubai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yesterday David Cameron made a trip to Southall to show he meant business. Itâ€™s not clear whether Ming will deploy his zimmerframe.&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1220

I would say that the above is ageist. Sunny Hundal, you are an ageist. I guess that you are the type of PC person who:

&#039;hide[s] malign intentions behind sweet words.&#039;

Tut tut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yesterday David Cameron made a trip to Southall to show he meant business. Itâ€™s not clear whether Ming will deploy his zimmerframe.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1220" rel="nofollow">http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1220</a></p>
<p>I would say that the above is ageist. Sunny Hundal, you are an ageist. I guess that you are the type of PC person who:</p>
<p>&#8216;hide[s] malign intentions behind sweet words.&#8217;</p>
<p>Tut tut.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Righty ho Sonia.

But for me it&#039;s not that it is politically incorrect to demean half the population, it is that is is bloody rude and also stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Righty ho Sonia.</p>
<p>But for me it&#8217;s not that it is politically incorrect to demean half the population, it is that is is bloody rude and also stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1454#comment-84530</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What Amis is â€œguiltyâ€ of is confessing to an emotional response.&lt;/i&gt;

An emotional response to put people into deportation camps en-masse, yes.

Or is that &quot;out of context&quot;? What&#039;s the correct context? You sound like one of those people defending the imams in Channel 4&#039;s Undercover Mosque. Heh.

&lt;i&gt;Sunny, you have made quite a few comments that could be taken as non-PC and sexist by some peopleâ€™s standards on this forum-&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve never claimed to be a PC fanatic. But I don&#039;t remember making sexist comments. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What Amis is â€œguiltyâ€ of is confessing to an emotional response.</i></p>
<p>An emotional response to put people into deportation camps en-masse, yes.</p>
<p>Or is that &#8220;out of context&#8221;? What&#8217;s the correct context? You sound like one of those people defending the imams in Channel 4&#8242;s Undercover Mosque. Heh.</p>
<p><i>Sunny, you have made quite a few comments that could be taken as non-PC and sexist by some peopleâ€™s standards on this forum-</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never claimed to be a PC fanatic. But I don&#8217;t remember making sexist comments.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;El Cid, youâ€™re saying itâ€™s politically incorrect to be blokeish&lt;/i&gt;

No Sid, I&#039;m not, but I don&#039;t make the rules.
When the PC show trials come people like me might get lined up and shot by the alternative lifestyle fascists. 
(My company&#039;s gender and transgender awareness week is loooming and I&#039;m beginning to sweat.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>El Cid, youâ€™re saying itâ€™s politically incorrect to be blokeish</i></p>
<p>No Sid, I&#8217;m not, but I don&#8217;t make the rules.<br />
When the PC show trials come people like me might get lined up and shot by the alternative lifestyle fascists.<br />
(My company&#8217;s gender and transgender awareness week is loooming and I&#8217;m beginning to sweat.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no showtrial just a (wank) stain on his literary pedigree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no showtrial just a (wank) stain on his literary pedigree.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Amis  is &quot;guilty&quot; of is confessing to an emotional response. The gymnastics are those of the prosecution in this virtual show trial I&#039;m very much afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Amis  is &#8220;guilty&#8221; of is confessing to an emotional response. The gymnastics are those of the prosecution in this virtual show trial I&#8217;m very much afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the broadcasting of discriminatory sentiments and symbols brings into play public meanings, whatever private thoughts may be attached to them.&quot;

I refer you to my earlier comment about the Eastern Bloc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the broadcasting of discriminatory sentiments and symbols brings into play public meanings, whatever private thoughts may be attached to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I refer you to my earlier comment about the Eastern Bloc.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so everyone - please just be warned, from now on, any comments that can be construed as condescending to females - will be held up to the light. It is not politically correct to demean half of the population. 

Ladies - please pay attention</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so everyone &#8211; please just be warned, from now on, any comments that can be construed as condescending to females &#8211; will be held up to the light. It is not politically correct to demean half of the population. </p>
<p>Ladies &#8211; please pay attention</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i agree with el cid- what&#039;s this there are broadly speaking 2 groups of political correctness&gt;? 


what rubbish. i agree with the CIF commenter who pointed out that in itself is such a generalization. 

anyway Sunny, you have made quite a few comments that could be taken as non-PC and sexist by some people&#039;s standards on this forum- its lucky most of us women aren&#039;t quite as uptight about our sex as some people are about their religion and their skin colour, and can take it like &quot;men&quot;.


;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i agree with el cid- what&#8217;s this there are broadly speaking 2 groups of political correctness&gt;? </p>
<p>what rubbish. i agree with the CIF commenter who pointed out that in itself is such a generalization. </p>
<p>anyway Sunny, you have made quite a few comments that could be taken as non-PC and sexist by some people&#8217;s standards on this forum- its lucky most of us women aren&#8217;t quite as uptight about our sex as some people are about their religion and their skin colour, and can take it like &#8220;men&#8221;.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin Amis is a writer. the man is going to try and be shocking obviously! People should keep things in perspective.</description>
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