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    Poll: Do you want a General Election?


    by Leon on 5th October, 2007 at 12:08 pm    

    With all the polling, posturing and speculation about whether Gordon Brown will call a snap General Election perhaps it’s time us Picklers gave our views? Consider this a political open thread for wild conjecture, sheer speculation and, dare I say, sensible commentary!



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    1. Nyrone — on 5th October, 2007 at 12:59 pm  

      not when the choices are between a broken arm or a broken leg.

    2. justforfun — on 5th October, 2007 at 1:30 pm  

      Remember no one admits to pollsters that they vote Conservative. What % needs to be factored in for this. 2% 4% ?

      Justforfun

    3. Morgoth — on 5th October, 2007 at 1:31 pm  

      Its typically between 4 and 5%, JFF.

    4. Boyo — on 5th October, 2007 at 1:51 pm  

      Labour and Tory no longer really exist. Seems to be the Tory’s plans are in many ways more likely to benefit the ordinary person than the Labour. Labour also seems to be very much more the party of the New Establishment, ie the media. And Europe, of course.

      Personally, although I consider myself a socialist I actually have more sympathy for the Tories. I’ve voted Labour all my life except at the last election when it was the Lib Dems, for the obvious reasons.

      In any case, now I’m a true child of Thatcher I also, ironically, recognise that as someone who earns a living off the public sector, Big Govt. is good for me. So I will probably do the selfish thing - vote Labour for myself, while suspecting the Tories are better for the nation as a whole!

    5. justforfun — on 5th October, 2007 at 2:04 pm  

      Boyo - I never vote for the party in power, my only principle and one that is very easy to keep ;-). However this time I have a dilema. Normally its a con/lab fight here but at the last election the Lib Dems won, to everyones surprise. So I will have to vote more tactically. Con or Lib Dem? Alas for the days of my youth when I voted early and often.

      Justforfun

    6. Sofi — on 5th October, 2007 at 2:22 pm  

      erm..i dont understand why we’re being asked this? what does it matter?

    7. Leon — on 5th October, 2007 at 2:39 pm  

      Ok…I was curious more than anything. All the speculation is focused on when it will be called, I’ve seen very little talk about whether the country wants it or not?

      Does the change in leader mean there should be a poll? Tactically should he go now than risk going later? Do you want rid of Labour or to show the Tories they haven’t a chance of gaining power for another decade etc?

    8. justforfun — on 5th October, 2007 at 2:52 pm  

      Do you want rid of Labour or to show the Tories they haven’t a chance of gaining power for another decade etc? huh?

      You seriously expecting a Labour landslide?

      For most well off Tory voters, a continuation of a Labour Government will not be so bad - I mean they have done very well out of the existing Labour Government. If Labour get back in, I grant Tory politians will be in the wilderness for some time, but New Labour will just continue moving to the right to gain more votes - especially if Scotland gets independance and labour need to replace their Scottish votes with English votes - as who else have the Left got to vote for?

      Justforfun

    9. Sofi — on 5th October, 2007 at 2:53 pm  

      more importantly, do you believe there’ll be a change of politics (both home and abroad) given a new government or the same old ?

      .. will the withdrawal of troops ease tensions/impending civil war in any country we have invaded?

      are we at the height of voter apathy?

    10. Leon — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:09 pm  

      You seriously expecting a Labour landslide?

      Nope but I don’t expect them to lose.

      more importantly, do you believe there’ll be a change of politics (both home and abroad) given a new government or the same old?

      Change will most likely come from below.

      I don’t believe they’ll be a massive change but without a revolution change is never sudden and dramatic so I’m not sure what you expect tbh…

    11. justforfun — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:15 pm  

      I agree with you Leon.

      Justforfun

    12. Billy — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:22 pm  

      Labour are more likely to lose in the future, so why the Conservatives want an election now I don’t get.

    13. Sofi — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:24 pm  

      well, no one is expecting anything dramatic however most people will be wondering what the point is. will there be a difference, a/any change? more interestingly, I wonder what the turn out will be?

    14. Boyo — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:27 pm  

      What with the widespread electoral fraud thanks to postal voting (another Labour innovation) it could be anything from 20 million to three men and a dog from Swindon.

    15. Boyo — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:28 pm  

      and yes i know they didn’t “invent” postal voting, but you know what i mean!

    16. Leon — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:33 pm  

      Why the Tories want this? They don’t, they’re bluffing trying to break Brown’s nerve and it looks like the public are buying it (in part anyway).

      Turnout? Who knows, it was 61% in 2005 but that was in better weather and good light. A dreary, cold and dark day in November may not be the best time for turnout. Wouldn’t surprise me if it dropped to 50%….

      Electoral fraud is less an issue than no registration (as pointed out by Justin). I’ve heard a number of local councils have sprung into action and are now knocking on doors registering people this week so that number of a million might come down.

    17. Refresh — on 5th October, 2007 at 3:58 pm  

      No there should be no election. Not before George W. Bush has left office.

      Should Cameron get in right now, he will be beating the drum for war against Iran, as Hague is prone to do.

      Cameron’s excuse will be that the Iraq disaster was them and not me and Iran really is a danger. Really!

    18. Sofi — on 5th October, 2007 at 4:00 pm  

      >>No there should be no election. Not before George W. Bush has left office.

      i actually like that idea -

    19. Morgoth — on 5th October, 2007 at 4:47 pm  

      No there should be no election. Not before George W. Bush has left office.

      You are aware that Hilary and Rudy are even more hawkish than Bush on Iran, and that Obama wants to attack Pakistan instead?

    20. Refresh — on 5th October, 2007 at 6:02 pm  

      Morgoth, I am aware of Rudy’s call for more war and longer wars.

      I am also aware of Hilary’s duplicity over the invasion of Iraq. As I am of Bill Clinton wanting to go healing on her behalf.

      And Obama’s wish to chase after Osama even if it means having to do it in Pakistan.

      Imagine however, Cameron & Haigh allied with Bush & Cheney.

      At least Brown is minded to put some distance between him and Bush.

      On the whole your point is relevant, someones really screwed the US.

    21. Leon — on 7th October, 2007 at 12:26 am  

      Well what we want is pretty meaningless now, Brown has confirmed there’ll be no election and oddly said there wont be wont next year either…

    22. Computer Network Security — on 7th October, 2007 at 12:59 am  

      Computer Network Security…

      I couldn’t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting…



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