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	<title>Comments on: New religious hatred law comes into force</title>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83438</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That doesn&#039;t fall under the religious hatred act, but the CPS would like to speak to you about a possible violation of the Pun Quality act of 1807.

They suspect you may be a pun-qualler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t fall under the religious hatred act, but the CPS would like to speak to you about a possible violation of the Pun Quality act of 1807.</p>
<p>They suspect you may be a pun-qualler.</p>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83330</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think there isn&#039;t enough done to protect Muslim people&#039;s feelings. There is a dance musician for instance, who is something of a mascot for ecstasy users with not much understanding of proper dance music, who goes by the name Fat Boy Muslim or something. This hurts me as I&#039;m a Muslim and I resent being referred to as a fat bastard

Just as Joy Division and New Order were brought to an end, the first by hanging and the latter by old age, to please the Anti-Reich, I propose the beheading of Norman Cook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think there isn&#8217;t enough done to protect Muslim people&#8217;s feelings. There is a dance musician for instance, who is something of a mascot for ecstasy users with not much understanding of proper dance music, who goes by the name Fat Boy Muslim or something. This hurts me as I&#8217;m a Muslim and I resent being referred to as a fat bastard</p>
<p>Just as Joy Division and New Order were brought to an end, the first by hanging and the latter by old age, to please the Anti-Reich, I propose the beheading of Norman Cook</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83270</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep hearing that existing laws protected Jews and Sikhs, yet there has been no shortage even in respectable journals such as the New Statesman of the kind of statements that arouse hatred against Jews - they&#039;re all rich, they control the media, foreign policy etc.  Yet nobody has been prosecuted for this.
So does the act refer to specifically rousing hatred on religious grounds - &quot;Islam is a terrorist religion&quot; or on personal grounds - &quot;Muslims are terrorists&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep hearing that existing laws protected Jews and Sikhs, yet there has been no shortage even in respectable journals such as the New Statesman of the kind of statements that arouse hatred against Jews &#8211; they&#8217;re all rich, they control the media, foreign policy etc.  Yet nobody has been prosecuted for this.<br />
So does the act refer to specifically rousing hatred on religious grounds &#8211; &#8220;Islam is a terrorist religion&#8221; or on personal grounds &#8211; &#8220;Muslims are terrorists&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Laban Tall</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83229</link>
		<dc:creator>Laban Tall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pub Philosopher&#039;s noticed.

He&#039;s in India at the moment, and reporting on Lord Ram&#039;s bridge.

http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/2007/10/a-very-indian-r.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pub Philosopher&#8217;s noticed.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s in India at the moment, and reporting on Lord Ram&#8217;s bridge.</p>
<p><a href="http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/2007/10/a-very-indian-r.html" rel="nofollow">http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/2007/10/a-very-indian-r.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tanvir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83174</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanvir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where would this facebook group fall into
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5791706178</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where would this facebook group fall into<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5791706178" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5791706178</a></p>
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		<title>By: newmania</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83168</link>
		<dc:creator>newmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>still allows people to challenge and reject &amp; ridicule religious beliefs generally. Even without this law I could have ridiculed Sikhism and got away with it under the law. 


But it does not allow you to hate that which is hateful...the state is finally getting its grubby fingers into our souls  and for whose  convenience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still allows people to challenge and reject &amp; ridicule religious beliefs generally. Even without this law I could have ridiculed Sikhism and got away with it under the law. </p>
<p>But it does not allow you to hate that which is hateful&#8230;the state is finally getting its grubby fingers into our souls  and for whose  convenience?</p>
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		<title>By: newmania</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83160</link>
		<dc:creator>newmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speak for yourself ...another load of crap to put up with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak for yourself &#8230;another load of crap to put up with</p>
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		<title>By: justforfun</title>
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		<dc:creator>justforfun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia - atheists and agnostics are protected so now mullahs can&#039;t go around insulting us, and I&#039;m sure they have a shorter fuse.

My question - When I read my copy of Mien Kampf - will I have to read it quietly?  I presume bed time reading to the kids is out.

Justforfun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonia &#8211; atheists and agnostics are protected so now mullahs can&#8217;t go around insulting us, and I&#8217;m sure they have a shorter fuse.</p>
<p>My question &#8211; When I read my copy of Mien Kampf &#8211; will I have to read it quietly?  I presume bed time reading to the kids is out.</p>
<p>Justforfun</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now how does it affect freedom of speech thats what i want to know. does this mean we cant go around insulting mullahs anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now how does it affect freedom of speech thats what i want to know. does this mean we cant go around insulting mullahs anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83058</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Act:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;29A:  Meaning of â€œreligious hatredâ€

In this Part â€œreligious hatredâ€ means hatred against a group of persons defined by reference to religious belief or lack of religious belief.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So atheists and agnostics are also protected. Interesting.

The intent bit is scary, as it can easily be widely intepreted. Just wait for the large number of cases of people arrested because they question somebody&#039;s core beliefs. This act will be a nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Act:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;29A:  Meaning of â€œreligious hatredâ€</p>
<p>In this Part â€œreligious hatredâ€ means hatred against a group of persons defined by reference to religious belief or lack of religious belief.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So atheists and agnostics are also protected. Interesting.</p>
<p>The intent bit is scary, as it can easily be widely intepreted. Just wait for the large number of cases of people arrested because they question somebody&#8217;s core beliefs. This act will be a nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83048</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jews and Sikhs have been deemed by the courts to be racial groups and are protected under this legislation&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This tracks with my understanding of their inclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jews and Sikhs have been deemed by the courts to be racial groups and are protected under this legislation</p></blockquote>
<p>This tracks with my understanding of their inclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83037</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s the most important person that walked the earth, asked the visiting vicar in the school with no christians.

&#039;The prophet Mohammed PBUH&#039; says the muslim kid

&#039;Guru Nanak,&#039; says the sikh kid

&#039;Buddha&#039; sas the buddhist kid

And so on

Finally, the vicar gets the answer he was looking for - Jesus Christ - from a Jewish kid no less

After class, he had to ask him why he thought so

Said the kid: &#039;Look, I know it&#039;s Moses. You know it&#039;s Moses. But business is business.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s the most important person that walked the earth, asked the visiting vicar in the school with no christians.</p>
<p>&#8216;The prophet Mohammed PBUH&#8217; says the muslim kid</p>
<p>&#8216;Guru Nanak,&#8217; says the sikh kid</p>
<p>&#8216;Buddha&#8217; sas the buddhist kid</p>
<p>And so on</p>
<p>Finally, the vicar gets the answer he was looking for &#8211; Jesus Christ &#8211; from a Jewish kid no less</p>
<p>After class, he had to ask him why he thought so</p>
<p>Said the kid: &#8216;Look, I know it&#8217;s Moses. You know it&#8217;s Moses. But business is business.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83036</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Italian mums say eat your food or I&#039;ll kill you, Asian mums say eat your food or I&#039;ll kill myself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italian mums say eat your food or I&#8217;ll kill you, Asian mums say eat your food or I&#8217;ll kill myself</p>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1426#comment-83035</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confused freshie off the boat at bus stop in Golders Green

&#039;Excusing me sir, but time is next bus joo?&#039;

Says the rabbi: &#039;Piss off paki&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confused freshie off the boat at bus stop in Golders Green</p>
<p>&#8216;Excusing me sir, but time is next bus joo?&#8217;</p>
<p>Says the rabbi: &#8216;Piss off paki&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well, while I can.

Two Palestinians sitting in a cafe.

One pulls out his wallet and sighs: &#039;this is a picture of my son abdullah. He was a martyr at 17.&#039;

The other man pulls out his wallet and sighs also: &#039;this is a picture of my son jamal. He was a martyr at 15.&#039;

Wiping a tear from his eye, the first man says: &#039;Kids...

They blow up so quickly these days&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, while I can.</p>
<p>Two Palestinians sitting in a cafe.</p>
<p>One pulls out his wallet and sighs: &#8216;this is a picture of my son abdullah. He was a martyr at 17.&#8217;</p>
<p>The other man pulls out his wallet and sighs also: &#8216;this is a picture of my son jamal. He was a martyr at 15.&#8217;</p>
<p>Wiping a tear from his eye, the first man says: &#8216;Kids&#8230;</p>
<p>They blow up so quickly these days&#8217;</p>
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