Your Post in Post#53 even.

Sofia, you’re Post#53.

And besides which….

A new documentary shows that several of the instigators behind the violent Mohammed cartoon demonstrations never even saw the drawings

The film suggests the crisis began full-force when the man many consider to be Islam’s most powerful figure, Sheik Yussuf Al-Qaradawi, declared 3 February 2006 as ‘Anger Day’ on his TV programme. A wave of violent protests across the globe unleashing followed in the wake of that transmission.

Kjær also shows the cartoons to Ali Bakhsi, the Iranian who spearheaded demonstrations in Tehran that led to the burning of the Danish embassy there. Bakhsi laughingly says the drawings look nothing like Mohammed but rather like an Indian Sikh.

The same Al-Qaradawi, mind you, who Red Ken has got his tongue stuck up the arse of….

Perhaps, and then the ‘outrage’ has to materialise somewhere, sometime.

I would think that racists and islamophobes would support the niqab to show how backward these p*akis are. The same way they need radical islam to demonise muslims and browns all together.

The whole argument is about freedom, and I would really like to find evidence that women who wear the niqab (who come from cultures where women are oppressed, but that must be a coincidence – according to the pro-niqab crowd, they have a choice and are expressing it) are indeed integrated within the wider community, and are able to be independent economically. Because if they are not, then there is no point in talking about freedom of expression.

but agree that many opposed to it are so minded not because it offends them, but because they see it as a form of oppression.

That’s true, but let’s be honest, some also object to it because it gives them another excuse to “stick it to the P*kis”. Saris & turbans were considerable controversial issues in some quarters during the time of the “parents’ generation”, so I’m sure that niqabs, hijabs etc are the modern-day equivalents of such “offensive”, “foreign” items of attire from the perspective of those who are prejudiced towards Asians regardless.

I am fine thanks- as you have been banned again I won’t ask how you are, as you probably will not be able to respond.

Ravi:

” I think people are against the niqab not because they want to curb the freedom of expression of anyone, but because it effectively isolates women, and does not facilitate integration in the West, which ultimately does not offer any freedom at all.”

I disagree about the niqab, but agree that many opposed to it are so minded not because it offends them, but because they see it as a form of oppression.

Sunny, I thought your article was brilliant, except for this little paragraph. I think people are against the niqab not because they want to curb the freedom of expression of anyone, but because it effectively isolates women, and does not facilitate integration in the West, which ultimately does not offer any freedom at all. I hope you agree with the school’s decision to sack a teacher for wearing a niqab.

Your Sikhs? Most would probably hate to be associated with you. Anyway, you know what to do since you’ve been exposed again.

Morgoth, no you didn’t address my point. My point was:

I never asked for a change in the law, as my original article states. But to have some sort of a constructive debate you need some politeness.

You know this because you yourself say you wouldn’t come here if I had Nazi regalia everywhere. Engage that brain sometimes. Instead all you’re interested in saying is that the only way you can have a debate is by swearing and shouting like an imbecile, and if anyone asks for a bit of politness then you accuse them of being theocrats.

If you can’t address that then I suggest you stick with HP because this isn’t the place for trolls. Muzumdar/Homi knows this which is why his comments aren’t allowed here and the saddo keeps coming back under different names.

No, I have answered it. You are contradicting yourself.

Libel and whatnot applies to consequenves of speech, not restriction of speech in the first place. Sofia is not arguing for something equivalent to Libel, but rather for an absolute restriction on free speech.

Sorry pal, that majid guy just got me vexed with has comments about Sikhs. You know how touchy I am about my Sikhs.

Hope all is well.

It was meant in a jovial way- there is no need to be so abusive to everyone; you can make your points just as well in a calm and rational way.

“Homi” was a good idea, but a pity you can’t argue in ‘character’ – you might have had something interesting to say.

Justforfun

1/2 a brain cell is all that is needed to see Jagdeep for what he is.

If you are, jovially, trying to call me thick, then well done, I’m cracking up here. Not.

Hope you are feeling better, been wondering what had happened to you. Good luck!

TFI

“Jagdeep is indicative of how far the Sikh community has descended down the metaphorical toilet. Any Sikh with half a brain cell would disassociate themselves with an imbecile like Jagdeep.”

So you are saying that you have half a brain cell then?

With respect it is not as if you stepped in and said this wasn’t the view of the Sikh community and in fact you have yet to do so. It is ok then for a Sikh to slander a community with no ticking off from the Sikhs here but if others do it then that is not allowed.

In the same way I do not expect you to ‘tick off’ your co-religionists when they blow shit up (because they have nothing to do with you), I do not feel the need to tick Jagdeep off.

And in any case, Jagdeep has confirmed on numerous occasions that his loyalty is 100% to Britain (not the Sikh Nation), ergo, by your logic, the British public should be ‘ticking’ him off.

You have yet to bring order to your own or to distance your community from the likes of Jagdeep.

Jagdeep is indicative of how far the Sikh community has descended down the metaphorical toilet. Any Sikh with half a brain cell would disassociate themselves with an imbecile like Jagdeep.

Enough with your putrid whining.

Justforfun

My memory fails me. Are you the Parsi who is a staunch Indian nationalist and who believes that Sikhs deserved everything they got in 1984?

If so, please take the next canoe to Iran. I will supply the ores. And a noose with which the Mullahs will hang you. After sodomising you with a broomstick.