Bloggers under threat


by Sunny
20th September, 2007 at 9:08 pm    

Well thank god for our stupid libel laws again! Justin McKeating has blogged and sent an email around alerting us to the fact that Tim Ireland and Craig Murray’s blogs have both been taken down by their hosting company.

It happened because both had asked questions about Uzbek minerals billionaire Alisher Usmanov, who recently bought shares in Arsenal. The Guardian pointed out last week:

Schillings, the lawyers acting for Usmanov, have been in touch with several independent Arsenal supporters’ websites and blogs warning them to remove postings referring to allegations made against him by Craig Murray, the former British ambassador to Uzbekistan. Usmanov was jailed under the old Soviet regime but says that he was a political prisoner who was then freed and granted a full pardon once Mikhail Gorbachev came to power as president. Schillings have warned the websites that repetition of Murray’s allegations were regarded as “false, indefensible and grossly defamatory”.

More on Obsolete. British libel laws always make it more difficult on the party with less money. Paying to defend the charges has the potential to break an individual or company, and having “I’m sorry” just won’t cut it. So hosting companies don’t want to take a chance and, at the first threat of legal proceedings, will capitulate. Tim and Craig’s example is worrying because it may have repercussions for British blogging in general. So do blog about this and spread the word! This will hopefully make others re-think before issuing legal threats to bloggers. Oh by the way, we’re hosted in the United States, which have different libel laws. :)

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  1. Tom — on 20th September, 2007 at 10:06 pm  

    Being hosted in the U.S. won’t stop Usmanov’s lawyers. I am hosted there too, and they came after me, citing a prior case that basically refers to the fact that foreign-based websites are accessible in the U.K..

  2. Kulvinder — on 20th September, 2007 at 10:17 pm  

    Boris Johnson’s site has apparently suffered ‘collateral damage’. Its worth pointing out that no matter how much everyone may disagree Usmanov is within his rights to behave this way. Different webhosting companies are after all available.

    That said trying to take the internet on with legal threats is amusingly futile.

  3. Leon — on 21st September, 2007 at 12:11 am  

    I wonder if Guido will join in with the fun in fighting those that use legal threats to silence bloggers…

  4. tyger — on 21st September, 2007 at 12:53 am  

    I wonder if Guido will join in with the fun in fighting those that use legal threats to silence bloggers… ~ Leon

    Ouch. Nice one, dude.

  5. Tim Ireland — on 21st September, 2007 at 1:01 am  

    Leon: Thanks. I was waiting ever-so-patiently for someone to say that.

    :o )

    He has an allegedly libel-resistant host his disposal, too… I wonder what’s keeping him?

  6. Tom Griffin — on 21st September, 2007 at 8:33 am  

    [Being hosted in the U.S. won’t stop Usmanov’s lawyers. I am hosted there too, and they came after me]

    Did the approach your hosts directly? The real problem for Craig Murray and Tim Ireland is that while they might be prepared to take on Usmanov, their hosts are not.

  7. Bartholomew — on 21st September, 2007 at 9:07 am  

    Being hosted in the US won’t help if you live in the UK. The Wall Street Journal was sued by a Saudi in London in 2003 (see here) – the WSJ won, because very few people in the UK saw the story online, but the principle remains: if the story is available, it’s effectively published here, no matter where it’s hosted.

    Incidentally, it should be noted that truth is not absolute defence in British libel law – in certain circumstances, you can be accused of saying something that is true “with malice”, in which case you’re in the hands of the subjective decision of a judge.

  8. Rumbold — on 21st September, 2007 at 9:27 am  

    Hopefully if Boris becomes Mayor of London he can get Usmanov back.

    Sorry about your site Tim- if there is anything we can do…

  9. Mike Power — on 21st September, 2007 at 9:44 am  

    Bartholomew:
    It is the imputation which is important here rather than the facts. Libel is usually concerned with ‘facts’ plus ‘opinion’. The McCanns were named as suspects – fact. The McCanns are likely to be guilty – opinion. In this case the truth of the facts is not the issue and is no defence. The imputation is false and therefore libelous.
    If I point out that Usmonov is morbidly obese (fact) there isn’t much he can do about it. If I go on to suggest it is due to gluttony I’m on dodgy ground ;)

  10. Leon — on 21st September, 2007 at 9:57 am  

    He has an allegedly libel-resistant host his disposal, too… I wonder what’s keeping him?

    Heh I wouldn’t hold my breath tbh…

  11. Sid — on 21st September, 2007 at 10:55 am  

    Craig Murry is inspiring. The man has cajunes.

  12. Sid — on 21st September, 2007 at 11:01 am  

    Can I see link to cached page of the Murray article? Or is posting the link transgressing ‘Godfrey v Demon Internet’ too?

  13. septicisle — on 21st September, 2007 at 11:01 am  

    Bartholomew: True, but it’s very rare that US hosts will pull the plug on you, which is just what has happened here.

  14. septicisle — on 21st September, 2007 at 11:03 am  

    Sid: put Usmanov’s full name as one word in front of blogspot.com and you’ll find it.

  15. Leon — on 21st September, 2007 at 11:16 am  

    I reckon we should google bomb Alisher Usmanov too…;)

  16. sonia — on 21st September, 2007 at 12:00 pm  

    AHA! TERRRIBLE..

    indymedia’s servers in the US were seized by the FBI i remember.

    this kind of thing shows up the the a real need for peer-to-peer networks.

  17. sonia — on 21st September, 2007 at 12:00 pm  

    indymedia UK’s servers – i should probably like to clarify.
    and hosting companies are chicken shit in the US anyway, no more no less than over here. if someone puts the squeeze on..

  18. sonia — on 21st September, 2007 at 2:18 pm  

    so which hosting company is it does anyone know?

  19. Clairwil — on 21st September, 2007 at 3:54 pm  

    Wow! That story bears a stiking resembelance to any entirely random thought I had last night. How very curious.

    http://clairwil.blogspot.com/2007/09/entirely-random-thought.html

  20. Chris Stiles — on 22nd September, 2007 at 2:28 am  

    so which hosting company is it does anyone know?

    fasthosts.

  21. ziz — on 22nd September, 2007 at 8:20 am  

    Let’s get this clear – Schillings – (lawyers but who basically run an extortion racket for pospstars and Z list celebs) cite an article posted in 2005 and re-posted at the time, and still available here

    http://tinyurl.com/2ts9n3

    The prospect of Mr U appearing in a court to explain his fascinating past is slightly less likely than Arsenal ( a struggling 3rd rate London football team) winning the Premiership, or the FA Cup… or England winning the World Cup.

    The best response to anyone receiving any communication from Schillings in this matter is the celebrated one used by Private Eye threatened by a lawyer acting (I think) for someone called Aardvaark.

    It consisted of a well known 2 word phrase or saying about sex and travel.

  22. El Cid — on 22nd September, 2007 at 9:41 am  

    The prospect of Mr U appearing in a court to explain his fascinating past is slightly less likely than Arsenal ( a struggling 3rd rate London football team) winning the Premiership, or the FA Cup… or England winning the World Cup.

    Don’t respond to this pathetic barb Gooners. We don’t want to get sidetracked (a Gooner)

  23. Simon Clark — on 23rd September, 2007 at 2:32 am  
  24. Trooper Thompson — on 23rd September, 2007 at 12:03 pm  

    As I say, very originally in my post, we’ll hang separately if we don’t hang together

    http://englandsfreedome.blogspot.com/2007/09/who-fucking-hell-are-you.html

  25. Paul Hulbert — on 23rd September, 2007 at 12:05 pm  
  26. Christopher Glamorgan — on 25th September, 2007 at 2:42 pm  

    British bloggers sticking together – where there’s a will, there’s a way!

    http://glamorganshire.blogspot.com/2007/09/tycoon-pulling-plug-on-liberty-whatever.html

  27. Chris Paul — on 27th September, 2007 at 1:16 am  

    Remodelled as the art lover Alisher Creosotemanov.

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