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		<title>By: kurshid,mawanella,srilanka</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-84081</link>
		<dc:creator>kurshid,mawanella,srilanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ramadhan mubarekJonz..ramadhan is not just about controlling oneself. It is about rethinking our priorities, about putting ourselves in other peoplesâ€™ shoes, about taking time to evaluate who we are and our relationship with God. The fasting bit is an outward manifestation of Ramadhanâ€¦there is a lot more to it..as a Muslim who canâ€™t fast, i would be slightly left out if this is all Ramadhan was about. As for not taking it seriously, that would only be the case if a non muslim was discussing it. For many Muslims who CHOOSE to fast, it is a serious time, but also a time to change the things about our characters that we donâ€™t like or that arenâ€™t especially nice. For those Muslims who are forced to fast, this goes against in my opinion the ethos of freedom of choice in religion. Of course there will be people who say that if you call yourself a Muslim then you should practice as suchâ€¦this I think again is a simplistic view and does not take into account peoples own internal struggleâ€¦</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ramadhan mubarekJonz..ramadhan is not just about controlling oneself. It is about rethinking our priorities, about putting ourselves in other peoplesâ€™ shoes, about taking time to evaluate who we are and our relationship with God. The fasting bit is an outward manifestation of Ramadhanâ€¦there is a lot more to it..as a Muslim who canâ€™t fast, i would be slightly left out if this is all Ramadhan was about. As for not taking it seriously, that would only be the case if a non muslim was discussing it. For many Muslims who CHOOSE to fast, it is a serious time, but also a time to change the things about our characters that we donâ€™t like or that arenâ€™t especially nice. For those Muslims who are forced to fast, this goes against in my opinion the ethos of freedom of choice in religion. Of course there will be people who say that if you call yourself a Muslim then you should practice as suchâ€¦this I think again is a simplistic view and does not take into account peoples own internal struggleâ€¦</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80751</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saqib:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I am currently working full-time with Interpal as head of fundraising, this is quite intense at the moment as it is our most busy period as most donations come through this month. 

Subsequently I donâ€™t get time to blog now which is unfortunate, so iâ€™ll probably come every now and again for a few salvos!&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sounnds like quite a tough job- don&#039;t newspapers accuse Interpal of funding Hamas every five minutes, then have to retract these claims, then bring it up again? Interpal seemed to have been cleared hundreds of times.

You should try and blog as much as you can, because I (and many others) always enjoy reading your comments.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The dissertation will focus on John Locke and his social contract theory, which is in essence liberal theory of limited governmentâ€¦i have to extract here a specific question to address. Reading isnâ€™t going greatâ€¦too much work.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That sounds pretty daunting as well, as so much has been written on Locke already. I am not an expert on Locke, but I would recommend anything by Mark Goldie, who has worked extensively on Locke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saqib:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I am currently working full-time with Interpal as head of fundraising, this is quite intense at the moment as it is our most busy period as most donations come through this month. </p>
<p>Subsequently I donâ€™t get time to blog now which is unfortunate, so iâ€™ll probably come every now and again for a few salvos!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounnds like quite a tough job- don&#8217;t newspapers accuse Interpal of funding Hamas every five minutes, then have to retract these claims, then bring it up again? Interpal seemed to have been cleared hundreds of times.</p>
<p>You should try and blog as much as you can, because I (and many others) always enjoy reading your comments.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The dissertation will focus on John Locke and his social contract theory, which is in essence liberal theory of limited governmentâ€¦i have to extract here a specific question to address. Reading isnâ€™t going greatâ€¦too much work.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That sounds pretty daunting as well, as so much has been written on Locke already. I am not an expert on Locke, but I would recommend anything by Mark Goldie, who has worked extensively on Locke.</p>
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		<title>By: Saqib</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80595</link>
		<dc:creator>Saqib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumbold

Likewise, good to see that you are on form.

Ramadan is like a race, and if i may piece together comments made in the earlier part of this thread, Ramadan is like a training programme similar to that of an athlete who wishes to reach peak performance through intense, hard training. Intensity is needed to reach that peak performance, by way of building up strength and stamina. 

However, if that intensity becomes injurious, then at that point it stops...similarly the fast can be broken if it reaches this state. The old adage, no pain no gain holds true. 

The dissertation will focus on John Locke and his social contract theory, which is in essence liberal theory of limited government...i have to extract here a specific question to address. Reading isn&#039;t going great...too much work.

I am currently working full-time with Interpal as head of fundraising, this is quite intense at the moment as it is our most busy period as most donations come through this month. 

Subsequently I don&#039;t get time to blog now which is unfortunate, so i&#039;ll probably come every now and again for a few salvos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumbold</p>
<p>Likewise, good to see that you are on form.</p>
<p>Ramadan is like a race, and if i may piece together comments made in the earlier part of this thread, Ramadan is like a training programme similar to that of an athlete who wishes to reach peak performance through intense, hard training. Intensity is needed to reach that peak performance, by way of building up strength and stamina. </p>
<p>However, if that intensity becomes injurious, then at that point it stops&#8230;similarly the fast can be broken if it reaches this state. The old adage, no pain no gain holds true. </p>
<p>The dissertation will focus on John Locke and his social contract theory, which is in essence liberal theory of limited government&#8230;i have to extract here a specific question to address. Reading isn&#8217;t going great&#8230;too much work.</p>
<p>I am currently working full-time with Interpal as head of fundraising, this is quite intense at the moment as it is our most busy period as most donations come through this month. </p>
<p>Subsequently I don&#8217;t get time to blog now which is unfortunate, so i&#8217;ll probably come every now and again for a few salvos!</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80400</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saqib:

Good to hear from you again. I was wondering where you had got to. How is the dissertation going? You had not decided on a topic last time you wrote. 

I am always unsure whether wishing someone &#039;Happy Ramadan&#039; is the right thing to do, as Ramadan is more of a long-distance race than a celebration- perhaps the phrase &#039;good luck&#039; would be more appropriate, thus saving the &#039;happy&#039; for Eid.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Iâ€™m surprised there are still Muslims here at PPâ€¦well, thatâ€™s just me as a Muslim being paronoid!&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saqib:</p>
<p>Good to hear from you again. I was wondering where you had got to. How is the dissertation going? You had not decided on a topic last time you wrote. </p>
<p>I am always unsure whether wishing someone &#8216;Happy Ramadan&#8217; is the right thing to do, as Ramadan is more of a long-distance race than a celebration- perhaps the phrase &#8216;good luck&#8217; would be more appropriate, thus saving the &#8216;happy&#8217; for Eid.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Iâ€™m surprised there are still Muslims here at PPâ€¦well, thatâ€™s just me as a Muslim being paronoid!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Saqib</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80384</link>
		<dc:creator>Saqib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sunny and all the PP chaps, especially my friend Rumbold...who i see is now a &#039;staff&#039; writer if i could call him that.

I&#039;m surprised there are still Muslims here at PP...well, that&#039;s just me as a Muslim being paronoid! 

The one thing about Ramadan is you actually realise just how much time we spend on either eating food, preparing food, or just plain thinking about food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sunny and all the PP chaps, especially my friend Rumbold&#8230;who i see is now a &#8216;staff&#8217; writer if i could call him that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised there are still Muslims here at PP&#8230;well, that&#8217;s just me as a Muslim being paronoid! </p>
<p>The one thing about Ramadan is you actually realise just how much time we spend on either eating food, preparing food, or just plain thinking about food.</p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80252</link>
		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>involved, involved, INVOLVED (or you will burn in the eternal hellfire!)  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>involved, involved, INVOLVED (or you will burn in the eternal hellfire!)  <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80228</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>involved, involved, INVOLVED</description>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80227</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further evidence that the Jewish PR machine continues to lick the Moslem one: Jonathan Ross last night wished Jewish viewers a Happy Rosh Hashanah but I didn&#039;t hear any mention of Ramadan. And to think he grew up 9in Leyton. C&#039;mon British moslems -- get incolved in the light stuff. Have a word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further evidence that the Jewish PR machine continues to lick the Moslem one: Jonathan Ross last night wished Jewish viewers a Happy Rosh Hashanah but I didn&#8217;t hear any mention of Ramadan. And to think he grew up 9in Leyton. C&#8217;mon British moslems &#8212; get incolved in the light stuff. Have a word.</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80169</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sonia - plz look at page 29 on the booklet link I gave in post 1. It&#039;s the link to the organisation that worked on the booklet with the nhs. There is a section on pregnant women and fasting. It&#039;s true that there is no specific ruling stopping women from fasting. Although it is recommended not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sonia &#8211; plz look at page 29 on the booklet link I gave in post 1. It&#8217;s the link to the organisation that worked on the booklet with the nhs. There is a section on pregnant women and fasting. It&#8217;s true that there is no specific ruling stopping women from fasting. Although it is recommended not to.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80168</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, we should have said Happy Rosh Hashanah too!  good job you pointed it out Sofia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, we should have said Happy Rosh Hashanah too!  good job you pointed it out Sofia</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80167</link>
		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just found out yesterday that a lot of people think pregnant women should fast - i never heard that before. apparently if you&#039;re a pregnant woman, you can not fast if you feel weak or feel it would harm your baby, but otherwise, you can. i.e. there&#039;s no recommendation that pregnant women NOT fast. Seems a bit strange that people would think not eating or drinking during x amount of hours during the day is not going to have some effect on a growing foetus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just found out yesterday that a lot of people think pregnant women should fast &#8211; i never heard that before. apparently if you&#8217;re a pregnant woman, you can not fast if you feel weak or feel it would harm your baby, but otherwise, you can. i.e. there&#8217;s no recommendation that pregnant women NOT fast. Seems a bit strange that people would think not eating or drinking during x amount of hours during the day is not going to have some effect on a growing foetus!</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80157</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you feel dehydrated you&#039;re allowed to break your fast</description>
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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80150</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please drink water

No God wants you ill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please drink water</p>
<p>No God wants you ill</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80146</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and they say a sense of humour goes during Ramadhan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and they say a sense of humour goes during Ramadhan</p>
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		<title>By: Random Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1371#comment-80142</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post Sunny. Ramadhan Mubarak to all. Now back to ignoring the munching noises of my fellow workers around me. Must focus internally, must get spiritual....

*Random slips into a trance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post Sunny. Ramadhan Mubarak to all. Now back to ignoring the munching noises of my fellow workers around me. Must focus internally, must get spiritual&#8230;.</p>
<p>*Random slips into a trance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think that many ppl have their priorities all wrong with Ramadhan. They focus on the food aspect and forget certain things like if hunger is all they feel then they do not understand the meaning of what they are doing. If all you&#039;re going to do is focus on not eating then you&#039;ve completely missed the point. I can&#039;t fast, but that does not mean that I can&#039;t use this month as a way of reevaluating my life and changing things that I don&#039;t like about myself. Yes i can do this at any point, but if as a Muslim I believe Ramadhan is special then this is the month to take advantage...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think that many ppl have their priorities all wrong with Ramadhan. They focus on the food aspect and forget certain things like if hunger is all they feel then they do not understand the meaning of what they are doing. If all you&#8217;re going to do is focus on not eating then you&#8217;ve completely missed the point. I can&#8217;t fast, but that does not mean that I can&#8217;t use this month as a way of reevaluating my life and changing things that I don&#8217;t like about myself. Yes i can do this at any point, but if as a Muslim I believe Ramadhan is special then this is the month to take advantage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would say jonz&#039;s comment is a fair one, (as is yours too Sofia ) and i think what you are saying could be considered within the aspect of self-control - or self - regulation - it depends on what people mean by control.  clearly  isn&#039;t about simply controlling &#039;physical&#039; instincts is it, but a wider understanding of aspects of oneself, etc. ( as you point to)

( and conversely, one  doesn&#039;t need to actually forego water and food to engage in that kind of self-scrutiny and reflection. and which is why its interesting to observe when some people fast during the day, act like gluttons at night, end of ramadan comes, and boom!)

its fascinating to see the impact of ramadan on many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would say jonz&#8217;s comment is a fair one, (as is yours too Sofia ) and i think what you are saying could be considered within the aspect of self-control &#8211; or self &#8211; regulation &#8211; it depends on what people mean by control.  clearly  isn&#8217;t about simply controlling &#8216;physical&#8217; instincts is it, but a wider understanding of aspects of oneself, etc. ( as you point to)</p>
<p>( and conversely, one  doesn&#8217;t need to actually forego water and food to engage in that kind of self-scrutiny and reflection. and which is why its interesting to observe when some people fast during the day, act like gluttons at night, end of ramadan comes, and boom!)</p>
<p>its fascinating to see the impact of ramadan on many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonz..ramadhan is not just about controlling oneself. It is about rethinking our priorities, about putting ourselves in other peoples&#039; shoes, about taking time to evaluate who we are and our relationship with God. The fasting bit is an outward manifestation of Ramadhan...there is a lot more to it..as a Muslim who can&#039;t fast, i would be slightly left out if this is all Ramadhan was about. As for not taking it seriously, that would only be the case if a non muslim was discussing it. For many Muslims who CHOOSE to fast, it is a serious time, but also a time to change the things about our characters that we don&#039;t like or that aren&#039;t especially nice. For those Muslims who are forced to fast, this goes against in my opinion the ethos of freedom of choice in religion. Of course there will be people who say that if you call yourself a Muslim then you should practice as such...this I think again is a simplistic view and does not take into account peoples own internal struggle...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonz..ramadhan is not just about controlling oneself. It is about rethinking our priorities, about putting ourselves in other peoples&#8217; shoes, about taking time to evaluate who we are and our relationship with God. The fasting bit is an outward manifestation of Ramadhan&#8230;there is a lot more to it..as a Muslim who can&#8217;t fast, i would be slightly left out if this is all Ramadhan was about. As for not taking it seriously, that would only be the case if a non muslim was discussing it. For many Muslims who CHOOSE to fast, it is a serious time, but also a time to change the things about our characters that we don&#8217;t like or that aren&#8217;t especially nice. For those Muslims who are forced to fast, this goes against in my opinion the ethos of freedom of choice in religion. Of course there will be people who say that if you call yourself a Muslim then you should practice as such&#8230;this I think again is a simplistic view and does not take into account peoples own internal struggle&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nodn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramzan Mubarak and Rosh Hashanah greetings to the readers and writers of PP :)</description>
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		<title>By: Zak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks sunny..however we Muslims  look forward to a month of cranky Muslims every day around 6 pm with much foreboding</description>
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