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	<title>Comments on: Observer Woman Magazine is still crap</title>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-84293</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your running the photographers pictures for the observer&#039;s feminist spread  on your website.   It is abuse of her copyright.  She is a woman and indian though so perhaps thats ok, with the people who run this site?  Perhaps you could pay her some money from your advertisers on your site.  Do they pay well the cashmere gloves advertisement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your running the photographers pictures for the observer&#8217;s feminist spread  on your website.   It is abuse of her copyright.  She is a woman and indian though so perhaps thats ok, with the people who run this site?  Perhaps you could pay her some money from your advertisers on your site.  Do they pay well the cashmere gloves advertisement?</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80709</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are you implying that northies are incapable to see beauty in darker shades?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No Ravi, I just mean that many of our US-based Southie friends on Sepia Mutiny frequently become drooling, &quot;ooohing&quot; and &quot;aaaahing&quot; nutters at the merest glimpse of a photo of &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; Asian chick, hot or not ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are you implying that northies are incapable to see beauty in darker shades?</p></blockquote>
<p>No Ravi, I just mean that many of our US-based Southie friends on Sepia Mutiny frequently become drooling, &#8220;ooohing&#8221; and &#8220;aaaahing&#8221; nutters at the merest glimpse of a photo of <i>any</i> Asian chick, hot or not <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Spitting Mad</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80203</link>
		<dc:creator>Spitting Mad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris &quot;Do they even know what they are trying to do?&quot;

Yes, of course. They are trying to sell advertising to the bluechip fashion houses and retailers. End of story.

So it is immensely gratifying every time we see the advert for Skoda cars in there - it means their time is surely coming :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8220;Do they even know what they are trying to do?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, of course. They are trying to sell advertising to the bluechip fashion houses and retailers. End of story.</p>
<p>So it is immensely gratifying every time we see the advert for Skoda cars in there &#8211; it means their time is surely coming <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Stiles</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80131</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Stiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should a broadsheet actually be in the business of trying to publish a womans magazine?  Inevitably it would seem that they&#039;d end up competing (notionally if nothing else) with the likes of Marie Claire etc. with the figleaf of middle class intellectualism.

What issues are they trying to address, and why can&#039;t they be addressed in the context of a Sunday broadsheet with a mixed audience?  Do they even know what they are trying to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should a broadsheet actually be in the business of trying to publish a womans magazine?  Inevitably it would seem that they&#8217;d end up competing (notionally if nothing else) with the likes of Marie Claire etc. with the figleaf of middle class intellectualism.</p>
<p>What issues are they trying to address, and why can&#8217;t they be addressed in the context of a Sunday broadsheet with a mixed audience?  Do they even know what they are trying to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80127</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think many indians or pakistanis full stop can think being darker is in any way attractive. 
I think Asians (mostly women) in general have a complete insecurity about skin colour. The amount of times i&#039;ve heard it makes me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think many indians or pakistanis full stop can think being darker is in any way attractive.<br />
I think Asians (mostly women) in general have a complete insecurity about skin colour. The amount of times i&#8217;ve heard it makes me sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Naik</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80125</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Naik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;If this was Sepia Mutiny, by now there would be about 300 posts by horny American southie desis going on about how insanely hot they think the Asian kurri in the second picture is.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Are you implying that northies are incapable to see beauty in darker shades? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If this was Sepia Mutiny, by now there would be about 300 posts by horny American southie desis going on about how insanely hot they think the Asian kurri in the second picture is.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Are you implying that northies are incapable to see beauty in darker shades? <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jagdeep,

&lt;blockquote&gt;It looks like one of those â€˜real womenâ€™ Dove adverts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If this was Sepia Mutiny, by now there would be about 300 posts by horny American southie desis going on about how insanely hot they think the Asian kurri in the second picture is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jagdeep,</p>
<blockquote><p>It looks like one of those â€˜real womenâ€™ Dove adverts.</p></blockquote>
<p>If this was Sepia Mutiny, by now there would be about 300 posts by horny American southie desis going on about how insanely hot they think the Asian kurri in the second picture is.</p>
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		<title>By: Spitting Mad</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80100</link>
		<dc:creator>Spitting Mad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, credit where due again, the Ex Files was very good this month. Genuinely interesting couple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, credit where due again, the Ex Files was very good this month. Genuinely interesting couple.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a big fan of the ex files!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of the ex files!</p>
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		<title>By: Spitting Mad</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80082</link>
		<dc:creator>Spitting Mad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks, Sunny

It&#039;s fun to speculate on whether the OWM team really did &#039;try so hard&#039; or whether they knew exactly what they were doing when they cut the interviews down to a handful of words. My hunch is that while they like the idea of making feminism fashionable, they believe that actually giving any thought to the subject would be far too boring for their readers. At least there were a couple of well-placed barbs allowed to slip through in the interviews.  

In a rare moment of fairness, we should point out that the feature they did on sportswomen in Morocco was actually quite interesting. Not interesting enough for them to put it online though, obviously, which is why we didn&#039;t mention it on the blog.

While we&#039;re here, can we also give a bit of a plug to our comment on &lt;a href=&quot;http://spittingmadwoman.blogspot.com/2007/09/return-of-lomax.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Thneed&lt;/a&gt;? I think you Picklers will probably share our total, abject disgust! 

Spread the bile folks

dolly, ally &amp; all at OWMMS xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Sunny</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fun to speculate on whether the OWM team really did &#8216;try so hard&#8217; or whether they knew exactly what they were doing when they cut the interviews down to a handful of words. My hunch is that while they like the idea of making feminism fashionable, they believe that actually giving any thought to the subject would be far too boring for their readers. At least there were a couple of well-placed barbs allowed to slip through in the interviews.  </p>
<p>In a rare moment of fairness, we should point out that the feature they did on sportswomen in Morocco was actually quite interesting. Not interesting enough for them to put it online though, obviously, which is why we didn&#8217;t mention it on the blog.</p>
<p>While we&#8217;re here, can we also give a bit of a plug to our comment on <a href="http://spittingmadwoman.blogspot.com/2007/09/return-of-lomax.html" rel="nofollow">The Thneed</a>? I think you Picklers will probably share our total, abject disgust! </p>
<p>Spread the bile folks</p>
<p>dolly, ally &amp; all at OWMMS xx</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80056</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was an interesting article on Cif about mens mags,sexism and modern feminism...and how many women are complicit in the sexist literature and opinions out there. I used to find observer woman quite interesting a while back..but haven&#039;t read it for a long while now...boring and irrelevant...new feminists?? how long did it take for them to think that one up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an interesting article on Cif about mens mags,sexism and modern feminism&#8230;and how many women are complicit in the sexist literature and opinions out there. I used to find observer woman quite interesting a while back..but haven&#8217;t read it for a long while now&#8230;boring and irrelevant&#8230;new feminists?? how long did it take for them to think that one up?</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1370#comment-80050</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like one of those &#039;real women&#039; Dove adverts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like one of those &#8216;real women&#8217; Dove adverts.</p>
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