EDL exposed in damning academic report


by Jai
27th September, 2011 at 8:00 am    

As recently highlighted by The Guardian, the ugly reality of the English Defence League has been exposed in a newly-published report by Dr Matthew Feldman and Dr Paul Jackson at Northampton University’s Radicalism and New Media Research Group. The report was formally released during a major international conference recently hosted by the RNM; it is based on extensive independent research and is a truly brilliant analysis of all aspects of the EDL. The results are damning to say the least.

The full report can be downloaded for free as a PDF document via the RNM’s website here.

Key findings

Some of the key findings are as follows (from p.56 of the report):

From the outset, among leaders and followers it is clear that the EDL has had sustained connections with the BNP and other extreme-right groups. Moreover, the EDL might profess itself a single issue, counter-jihadist movement, but its failure to adhere to this line leaves it looking like all previous racist extreme-right groups. This failure makes it even more difficult to ignore the neo-Nazi methods, antecedents and current connections of the EDL’s leaders and its followers.

Consequently, these profiles allow four conclusions. Firstly, the EDL is unarguably connected to the BNP and other far-right groups, whether by previous association or by shared interest. Secondly, some of these far-right individuals have possessed significant weaponry that identifies them as potential ‘lone wolf’ terrorists. Thirdly, EDL leaders and followers have engaged in criminality, especially racially aggravated incidents. Fourthly, the EDL engages in doublespeak that powerfully questions their claim to be a single-issue, non-racist movement.

Religious persecution and incitement of violence & hatred

The document also mentions several of my EDL-focused articles. Furthermore, the full report confirms the issues discussed in numerous articles here on Pickled Politics, including the following fact: Despite the EDL’s official claim of opposition solely towards genuinely extremist interpretations of Islam, in reality the EDL is engaged in what is actually the religious persecution of the entire Muslim population, and incites violence and hatred. The last paragraph of the main section of the report (p.62) also confirms that EDL leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”) is on record as publicly making the following self-incriminating statements targeting Muslims en masse during his speech at the EDL’s demonstration in London on 3 September 2011, as previously discussed on Pickled Politics:

“EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM watching this on Youtube, on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens, you got away with it. You had better understand that we have built a network from one end of this country to the other end, and we will not tolerate it, and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our citizens killed, maimed or hurt on British soil ever again.”

Yaxley-Lennon’s rant indicates that he does not even regard British Muslims as British citizens at all. Furthermore, not only does Yaxley-Lennon openly exhibit vehement hostility towards “every single Muslim” and holds them collectively responsible for 7/7 (despite the fact that the British citizens murdered by terrorists on 7/7 included a number of Muslims), but he also openly made a direct threat against Britain’s entire Muslim population.

The report similarly confirms that millionaire EDL backer Alan Lake was indeed the author of a “Final Solution” blueprint targeting the entire British Muslim population and anyone perceived to be sympathetic towards them, including death threats against British Prime Minister David Cameron, Deputy PM Nick Clegg and the Archbishop of Canterbury, as previously discussed in The Guardian, the Daily Mail and Pickled Politics.

The Norwegian police have recently confirmed that they are investigating Alan Lake to verify if he had an ideological influence on the mass murdering Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik. As for Yaxley-Lennon himself, it is worth noting that he is on record as stating that he agrees with Breivik’s opinions.

12,000 Muslims attend Muslim anti-terrorism conference in London

For their part, David Cameron, Nick Clegg and the Archbishop of Canterbury (along with Ed Miliband and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon) sent messages of support to the major anti-terrorism conference recently organised by the international Muslim humanitarian organisation Minhaj-ul-Quran (by richards at testsforge). The conference was held at Wembley Arena in London and was attended by 12,000 supportive Muslims; representatives from the Sikh, Hindu, Christian, Jewish and Buddhist faiths also said prayers for peace.

Despite receiving death threats following his 600-page “Fatwa on Terrorism” last year, in which he unequivocally condemned Al-Qaeda and the Taliban and comprehensively demonstrated the reasons that terrorism and suicide bombings completely violate the tenets of Islam, Minhaj-ul-Quran’s founder has continued to be heavily involved in actively opposing Islamist terrorism & extremism along with promoting interfaith friendship and understanding on an international scale.

e-Petition to ban the EDL

Incidentally, there are currently two e-petitions underway to ban the EDL. If you support the petition to the British Government, you can add your signature here and/or here. (Further details via “Exposing the EDL” here).


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  1. dave lee — on 28th September, 2011 at 10:06 am  

    another tiny group of extremists …wonder what % of people take fanatics seriously ??…like nutjobs of any flavour ,these people are sick in the head…. unfortunately the media (and its readers/viewers?)love all this conflict/hatred……these fanatics should be rounded up….put on a very remote island… given pointed sticks…and encouraged to kill each other off! allowing the rest of humanity to live our lives in peace and harmony……DEATH TO FANATICS !!!!!

  2. Binkstein — on 28th September, 2011 at 2:35 pm  

    What would our national life be like without the dentally-challenged Arch-Dhimmi of Canterbury to amuse us all?

    Look you!

  3. Terry Ist — on 28th September, 2011 at 6:58 pm  

    Four men have this evening been charged with preparing for an act of terrorism in the UK, and two more with failing to disclose information. One has additionally been charged with terrorist fundraising…

    Those charged are:

    IRFAN NASSER (14/6/81) aged 30 of Doris Road, Sparkhill
    IRFAN KHALID (1/3/85) aged 26 of Timbers Way, Sparkbrook
    ASHIK ALI (12/3/85) aged 26 of White Street, Balsall Heath
    RAHIN AHMED (28/7/86) aged of 114 Moorcroft Road, Moseley

    BAHADER ALI (4/7/83) aged 28 of 27 Turner Street, Sparkbrook
    MOHAMMED RIZWAN (3/2/79) aged 32 of 75 Asquith Road, Ward End

    The Crown Prosecution Service has authorised West Midlands Police to make the following:

    CHARGE 1; ENGAGING IN CONDUCT IN PREPARATION OF TERRORIST ACTS contrary to section 5(1) of the Terrorism Act 2006.

    IRFAN NASSER between the 25th day of December 2010 and the 19th September 2011 with the intention of committing acts of terrorism within the UK or assisting another to commit such acts engaged in conduct in preparation for giving effect to his intention, namely:

    i. Travelling to Pakistan for training in terrorism including bomb making, weapons and poison making.
    ii. Making a martyrdom film.
    iii. Planning a bombing campaign.
    iv. Planning a suicide bombing campaign/event.
    v. Collecting money for terrorism.
    vi. Advising and counselling the commission of terrorist acts by providing information about training in Pakistan
    vii. Advising, counselling on explosives and detonators.
    viii. Being concerned in the purchase of components and chemicals for a home made explosive device.
    ix. Constructing of a home made explosive device for terrorist acts.
    x. Being concerned in recruiting persons for terrorist training.
    xi. Being concerned in recruiting persons for terrorist acts.
    xii. Stating an intention to be a suicide bomber.

    CHARGE 2; ENGAGING IN CONDUCT IN PREPARATION OF TERRORIST ACTS contrary to section 5(1) of the Terrorism Act 2006.

    IRFAN KHALID between the 25th day of December 2010 and the 19th September 2011 with the intention of committing acts of terrorism within the UK or assisting another to commit such acts engaged in conduct in preparation for giving effect to his intention, namely:

    i. Travelling to Pakistan for training in terrorism including bomb making, weapons and poison making.
    ii. Making a martyrdom film.
    iii. Planning a bombing campaign.
    iv. Planning a suicide bombing campaign/event.
    v. Collecting money for terrorism.
    vi. Advising and counselling the commission of terrorist acts by providing information about training in Pakistan
    vii. Advising, counselling on explosives and detonators.
    viii. Being concerned in the purchase of components and chemicals for a home made explosive device.
    ix. Constructing of a home made explosive device for terrorist acts.
    x. Being concerned in recruiting persons for terrorist training.
    xi. Being concerned in recruiting persons for terrorist acts.
    xii. Stating an intention to be a suicide bomber

    http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/press-release.asp?ID=2547

  4. Sarah AB — on 28th September, 2011 at 7:52 pm  

    Are you implying that being against the EDL (though I don’t think I want to ban them) somehow means you support such criminal acts?

  5. Terry Ist — on 28th September, 2011 at 9:11 pm  

    What?

  6. Don — on 28th September, 2011 at 10:17 pm  

    Which words are you having difficulty with?

    Seemed like a simple question. Your post had no context. What point are you making?

  7. Terry Ist — on 29th September, 2011 at 9:49 pm  

    I thought it was pretty obvious really.

    That is just the latest in a very long line of charges against Muslims relating to terrorism, I could easily produce hundreds more, most likely thousands more, and across the whole spectrum of plots, planned outrages and actual carnage.

    That is what an actual terrorist charge looks like, and we all know what an actual terrorist attack looks like. We have seen enough of them.

    Given this, on what foundation does the petition this author encourages people to sign have:

    “We call on the British government to give serious consideration to proscribing the English Defence League (EDL) under current anti-Terrorism legislation …”

  8. douglas clark — on 29th September, 2011 at 11:12 pm  

    Dear Terry 1st,

    That is just the latest in a very long line of charges against Muslims relating to terrorism, I could easily produce hundreds more, most likely thousands more, and across the whole spectrum of plots, planned outrages and actual carnage.

    Just out of curiosity could you clarify who you are? It seems to me that you are not, exactly, in favour of an equal approach to religion and perhaps colour.

    You could, undoubtedly, produce cases of some muslims who have gone on to do terrorism. It is frankly outrageous to suggest that that is unique or exactly unusual. There are, for instance, Cambodians and Russians, Chinese and others that have killed a lot of folk.

    It is a bit ridiculous to pretend that one group of humans are any worse than another.

    Seems to me.

  9. Sarah AB — on 30th September, 2011 at 7:02 am  

    Terry 1st – what has being opposed to terrorism got to do with supporting the EDL? All parties, and in fact pretty much everyone, including Islamists, would have similar views about these arrests.

    Do you agree with this statement by Stephen Yaxley Lennon?

    “EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM watching this on Youtube, on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens, you got away with it. You had better understand that we have built a network from one end of this country to the other end, and we will not tolerate it, and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our citizens killed, maimed or hurt on British soil ever again.”

  10. Kismet Hardy — on 30th September, 2011 at 12:04 pm  

    “I could easily produce hundreds more, most likely thousands more”

    No you couldn’t. Which is why you haven’t.

    You’re no different from the hilarious Britain First group (who insist on sending me their Muslims are Baaad they chop white girls into kebabs newsletters every day) who, for lack of daily Muslims are baaad stories, keep recounting the tale of Charlene Downes who was groomed by a bunch of cunts who were born Muslim and who allegedly turned her into kebabs.

    Every day they bang on about this, just as you will bang on about the above for tedious months and years to come

  11. The British Asian Blog — on 30th September, 2011 at 12:24 pm  

    EDL and a bunch of racists, as is well known by the wider community and population of the UK. I sometimes wonder a better name for EDL would be English Drunkards League. Racism will never be tolerated.

  12. Kismet Hardy — on 30th September, 2011 at 1:20 pm  

    “I sometimes wonder a better name for EDL would be English Drunkards League.”

    EDL just doesn’t have the same sinister grafitti impact the NF used to have, does it? EDL sounds more like a 70s prog-rock band touting a dodgy concept album.

    I’m trying to introduce the word ‘EDLotic’ into common use. Pass it on

  13. Don — on 30th September, 2011 at 1:29 pm  
  14. douglas clark — on 30th September, 2011 at 3:00 pm  

    Well Don @ 13,

    You have surpassed yourself :-)

    Kismet bEDLice sort of works….

  15. Sarah AB — on 30th September, 2011 at 5:04 pm  

    (B)EDLam?

  16. Trofim — on 30th September, 2011 at 7:39 pm  

    Readers if this blog may find this programme interesting:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0151pys

  17. Don — on 30th September, 2011 at 10:58 pm  

    Douglas,

    I was lost for words.

    Trofim,

    Yes that was interesting.

    Terry,

    Awareness of one problem oes not preclude awareness of another. I don’t favour proscription, but these people need watching.

  18. Terry Ist — on 1st October, 2011 at 4:32 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics]

  19. Terry Ist — on 1st October, 2011 at 4:33 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics]

  20. Terry Ist — on 1st October, 2011 at 4:34 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics]

  21. Sarah AB — on 2nd October, 2011 at 8:37 am  

    So what would you like to happen, Terry 1st? If there is another terrible incident do you want ‘the Islamic community [to] feel the full force of the English Defence League’? (To quote Yaxley Lennon again) And what would that look like?

  22. Terry Ist — on 2nd October, 2011 at 4:11 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics]

  23. Jai — on 2nd October, 2011 at 5:17 pm  

    Commenters will not be allowed to attempt to exploit this website by using it as a platform to incite hatred and bigotry against the Muslim population en masse. Any further comments by “Terry Ist” that continue to repeatedly avoid giving a direct answer to the simple questions asked by Sarah AB in #9 & #21 and push irrelevent anti-Muslim propaganda instead will therefore be deleted.

  24. Terry Ist — on 2nd October, 2011 at 5:23 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  25. Jai — on 2nd October, 2011 at 5:47 pm  

    That is just the latest in a very long line of charges against Muslims relating to terrorism, I could easily produce hundreds more, most likely thousands more, and across the whole spectrum of plots, planned outrages and actual carnage.

    That is what an actual terrorist charge looks like, and we all know what an actual terrorist attack looks like. We have seen enough of them.

    People who insist on playing the dubious game of “guilt by association” and “collective guilt” in an attempt to stereotype & demonise the entire Muslim population en masse as “terrorists” will find that such tactics will backfire very badly indeed, considering that EDL leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”) is actually the son of Irish immigrants to England. Irish terrorists were responsible for more than 10,000 bomb attacks on the British Isles between 1969 and 1989 alone. And there have subsequently continued to be numerous plots, planned outrages and actual carnage by Irish terrorists during the past 20 years, including the deliberate targeting of London; in fact, such terrorist plots are still occurring — a viable explosive device was discovered in a heavily populated area of Belfast city centre just two days ago.

    None of which would ever justify the self-appointed leader of a so-called “street army” in England accusing “every single Irish person watching this on Youtube” of collective guilt for the terrorist attacks concerned, or making the direct threat that “the Irish community [in England] will feel the full force” of the ‘street army’ involved if any further such terrorist attacks occur on British soil.

    One would also think that, considering his Irish background, Yaxley-Lennon should know better than to persecute & stigmatise the entire Muslim population due to the actions of the terrorist minority, considering how badly ordinary Irish people have frequently been treated due to the actions of the Irish terrorist minority. Unfortunately, it looks like Yaxley-Lennon has not learned this particular lesson in life.

    As for Yaxley-Lennon himself, he is now on record as stating that he agrees with the opinions of the mass murdering Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik (an individual who is repeatedly discussed in the academic report. The EDL’s connections to other Far-Right individuals possessing significant weaponry that identifies them as potential terrorists are similarly discussed in detail in the report). Yaxley-Lennon is also on record as clearly making what appeared to be threats of Far-Right terrorism at the end of his interviews with both CNN and the BBC’s Newsnight; Yaxley-Lennon’s threatening remarks were immediately noticed by CNN anchor Becky Anderson and Newsnight host Jeremy Paxman.

    Furthermore, Yaxley-Lennon is on record as making exactly the same sinister claims about Far-Right terrorism occurring in the UK “within the next 5 years” several months before Breivik’s attacks in Norway. And the woman who accompanied Yaxley-Lennon when he arrived at the EDL demonstration on 3 September 2011 disguised as a rabbi is Roberta Moore, who has been confirmed to have links to convicted terrorists in the United States whose organisation is officially designated by the FBI as a “terrorist group”, as previously discussed on Pickled Politics here and as subsequently confirmed by the aforementioned academic report.

    Not only that, but as a result of his speech to the EDL on 3 September 2011, Yaxley-Lennon is now on record as making a direct threat against the entire British Muslim population; bear in mind that the term “Islamic community” by definition also includes Tariq Jahan and his family, the 12,000 supportive Muslims who attended the recent anti-terrorism conference in London, and senior members of the present British Government such as Baroness Sayeeda Warsi.

    In fact, the targeting of British Cabinet ministers is a repeated pattern of behaviour amongst senior EDL figures; Yaxley-Lennon is following the precedent of millionaire EDL backer Alan Lake’s death threats against senior members of the British Government such as Prime Minister David Cameron and Deputy PM Nick Clegg.

    What is truly ironic is that the actions of EDL propagandists & apologists on this thread and elsewhere actually follow the exact pattern of behaviour described in the academic report. Such individuals therefore inadvertently confirm the very observations made throughout the report itself, including the key findings from p.56 as quoted in the main article above.

  26. Terry Ist — on 2nd October, 2011 at 6:07 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  27. Don — on 2nd October, 2011 at 6:40 pm  

    What question did you ask that has not been answered?

    The point of the OP is that there is good reason to believe that the EDL as an organisation/movement/whatever should be watched because it demonstrably contains within its ‘divisions’ people who are driven by race hate and fantasies of large scale, invigorating, cleansing violence. For many of them smaller scale violence is not a fantasy but rather a pastime.

    And that the EDL acts as a focal point, echo-chamber and meeting place for a significant number of such who have found a cause. And it puts them on the streets.

    You could dispute that, that would be a debate.

    Just saying that islamist or muslim terrorists are vastly more lethal than the EDL is not a question.

    As I said, I don’t favour proscription because that should require solid evidence of a real and present intent to do harm, not a vague malevolence. But concern is valid.

    Terry, may I ask, and obviously you don’t have to answer this, are you a regular reader of this blog who just chose this topic on which to make your first comment? Or did you stumble upon it by chance?

    Or do you do this a lot?

  28. Don — on 2nd October, 2011 at 6:46 pm  

    Well, it’s your call, Jai. But I was just starting stretching exercises for the first time in ages.

    It’s been very quiet round here for a while, hasn’t it?

  29. Terry Ist — on 2nd October, 2011 at 6:49 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  30. Don — on 2nd October, 2011 at 7:22 pm  

    On what real basis can the EDL be banned as terrorists?

    I can only speak for myself but I have twice said very clearly that they should not be. But they bear watching.

    (I slightly editted my post above while you were posting.)

    The point about asking where you got here from was that every time an OP touches on a far right organisation there is a predictable and familiar response. Almost formulaic. You sound familiar.

  31. Terry Ist — on 2nd October, 2011 at 7:43 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  32. Sarah AB — on 2nd October, 2011 at 8:02 pm  

    I’m not in favour of banning the EDL (not something I’m immovable on, and certainly not a cause close to my heart, but that’s my position at the moment) – but Terry gave the impression of being an EDL sympathiser rather than making a good case – pragmatic or libertarian – against the ban. Terry seems to pit the EDL against Muslims/Islam – but the EDL is a single movement whereas Muslim terrorists – although clearly worse than the EDL – are a really tiny subset.

  33. Terry Ist — on 2nd October, 2011 at 9:28 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  34. Jai — on 3rd October, 2011 at 10:38 am  

    Yaxley-Lennon levelled his accusation against “every single Muslim” and his threat against the entire “Islamic community” by using the single terrorist attack on 7/7 to justify his statements. I wonder what Yaxley-Lennon’s reaction would be if someone applied the same despicable warped logic to him and held Yaxley-Lennon responsible for the more than 10,000 terrorist bombings on the British Isles perpetrated by his fellow Irish people.

    Perhaps it’s time Yaxley-Lennon looked up the meaning of the word “hypocrisy” and simultaneously took a long hard look in the mirror.

    Yaxley-Lennon’s accusation against “every single Muslim” and his threat against the entire “Islamic community” are even more self-incriminating when you bear in mind that Yaxley-Lennon is perfectly aware that his targets include Tariq Jahan and his family. In August 2011, Yaxley-Lennon publicly made statements expressing alleged sympathy for them, after the outpouring of respect and support for Tariq Jahan across the UK. Yaxley-Lennon’s subsequent rant against “every single Muslim” and “the Islamic community” indicates how dishonest, hypocritical and opportunistic his remarks about the Jahan family actually were.

  35. Jai — on 3rd October, 2011 at 10:41 am  

    Such dishonesty, hypocrisy and opportunism is a repeated pattern of behaviour when it comes to Yaxley-Lennon. He had to sneak into the EDL demonstration on 3 September 2011 because it required him to break the terms of his bail conditions resulting from his recent criminal conviction for leading a violent brawl involving 100 football hooligans as he chanted “EDL till I die”.

    After he was arrested and jailed by the police for deliberately breaking his bail conditions, Yaxley-Lennon went on “hunger strike”, although the Luton Today reported that he actually lasted only 24 hours and then he gave up. Yaxley-Lennon has claimed that he’d gone on “hunger strike” both as a political protest against his incarceration and also due to his alleged objections to the halal meat served in that particular prison.

    However, the same Luton Today article mentions that Yaxley-Lennon has also claimed that he assuaged his alleged “hunger” upon his release by immediately eating a meal at the local Nandos restaurant in Luton. According to Nandos, all the meat served at that particular restaurant is halal; they don’t even allow non-halal meat on the premises.

  36. Jai — on 3rd October, 2011 at 10:49 am  

    Don, Sarah AB,

    Make sure you download the academic report and read it when you have some spare time. You’ll definitely find it very interesting indeed. The report covers all the areas you’ve been discussing, and it goes into meticulous detail about these issues.

  37. Terry Ist — on 3rd October, 2011 at 7:34 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  38. Gabe — on 3rd October, 2011 at 7:43 pm  

    Such dishonesty, hypocrisy and opportunism is a repeated pattern of behaviour when it comes to Yaxley-Lennon.

    You make it sound like very few people understand this – taking into account the number of OPs you have written regarding EDL/BNP and the token Sikhs that somehow seem to be attracted to them. How much more can these guys be exposed?

    How about more nuanced issues in PP? You know, the kind of issues that sensible and moderate people can disagree upon? The only debate one can possibly have with your kind of OP is with EDL sympathisers, and you are censoring them!

  39. Sarah AB — on 3rd October, 2011 at 7:49 pm  

    Jai – I’ve only browsed so far, but it did seem nuanced and useful.

    Terry – there are all sorts of ways you could have challenged the final part of Jai’s post – by discussing the meaning of the word ‘terrorism’, or by invoking the parallel of Hizb ut Tahrir which is an extreme but legal group – or indeed of the legal BNP. But – you cited examples of people who had been charged with terrorism related offences. I don’t suppose anyone here has a problem with those charges.
    Looking at those cases does nothing to help explore the question of whether the EDL should be banned.

    Gabe – I think the question whether the EDL should be *banned* is one sensible people might disagree about.

  40. Terry Ist — on 3rd October, 2011 at 8:25 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  41. Jai — on 3rd October, 2011 at 8:45 pm  

    There have been some further developments involving Yaxley-Lennon during the past few days.

    Via BBC News (source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-15117961):

    EDL leader Stephen Lennon convicted of assault

    The leader of the English Defence League (EDL) has been convicted of assault after headbutting a member of his group during a rally in Blackburn.

    Stephen Lennon, 28, goaded his followers during a rally attended by 2,000 EDL members in April, Preston Magistrates’ Court heard.

    He verbally abused Alan McKee, 33, before attacking him.

    Lennon who denied common assault, was found guilty of the charge. Sentencing was adjourned to 3 November.

    The bench heard Mr Lennon launched a tirade against Mr McKee, calling him a “degenerate mug”, before trouble broke out.

    Mr McKnee was pulled from the crowd for his safety. But he later confronted Mr Lennon about his speech, the court was told.

    Lennon, who was surrounded by his own security guards and EDL stewards, then stepped forward and headbutted Mr McKee.

    …..The court heard from two police officers who told the court they were on hand when the incident happened and they clearly saw Lennon headbutt Mr McKee.

    After a day-long trial, District Judge Peter Ward said that he believed the police officers and convicted Lennon of common assault.

  42. Terry Ist — on 3rd October, 2011 at 9:32 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  43. Terry Ist — on 3rd October, 2011 at 9:33 pm  

    [Deleted by Pickled Politics. See #23]

  44. Optimistic — on 3rd October, 2011 at 10:20 pm  
  45. Optimist — on 3rd October, 2011 at 10:26 pm  

    Gebe -

    Every single article that Jai has written about the EDL or those few lunatics from Sikh background have been very thougtful, well researched and timely.

    The reson there have been many is because the EDL have been preety active latley and its our good fortune that Jai has found time to answer their lies and expose them for what they are.

    But you can not debate with the likes of the EDL. They are not the normal sort of people who are interested in debate but are interested only spreading racist hatred and demonising the Muslims.

    Anyway, after Yaxley-Lennon threatend all Muslims for the crimes of a tiny minority, nothing else is left to debate with them, in my opnion.

  46. douglas clark — on 4th October, 2011 at 4:37 am  

    Terry 1st,

    I completely disagree with you. Jai is entitled to use this forum to advertise the deceit and warped mindset of the leaders of the EDL without having to answer to the likes of you.

    If your only point in favour of the EDL consists of supporting their right to free speech – which is not foreclosed by Pickled Politics refusing to give them, or you, publicity – then you and they have lost the arguement. The discussion about what is allowable on a web site has been held numerous times and the usual conclusion is that the web is an infinite resource and you can express yourself anywhere else you like, but not here. As I too hold strong views on certain subjects I have had to accept that. So should you.

  47. Jai — on 4th October, 2011 at 10:17 am  

    Yaxley-Lennon has claimed (see here and here) that his recent incarceration for deliberately breaking the terms of his bail conditions was a violation of his alleged “democratic rights, human rights and civil liberties” to engage in what is actually the religious persecution of the entire British Muslim population.

    During Yaxley-Lennon’s incarceration, statements on his behalf were given to the Luton Today by Yaxley-Lennon’s PA, Hel Gower. Gower herself is on record as supporting the BNP and the neo-Nazi “British First Party”.

    Furthermore, BNP leader Nick Griffin publicly spoke out in defence of Yaxley-Lennon and forcefully objected to his incarceration. Ironically, the fact that he has the disgusting Griffin’s support is a truly damning indictment of Yaxley-Lennon.

  48. Jai — on 4th October, 2011 at 10:22 am  

    I have updated the main article above to include the following information: The Norwegian police have now confirmed that they are investigating millionaire EDL backer Alan Lake to verify if he had an ideological influence on Anders Breivik. As for Yaxley-Lennon himself, it is worth noting that he is on record as stating that he agrees with Breivik’s opinions, as mentioned in comment #25.

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    During Yaxley-Lennon’s incarceration, (along with grandiose Anders Breivik-style rhetoric about the EDL dealing with events “of world historical importance”) the EDL’s main website included the ridiculous claim that Yaxley-Lennon’s imprisonment means that he is like Mahatma Gandhi. The supreme irony of the situation, of course, is the fact that Gandhi was ultimately murdered by a Hindu nationalist for being “too sympathetic” towards Muslims.

    Gandhi had numerous Muslim friends and was vocal about encouraging unity between Muslims and non-Muslims. In fact, not only did Gandhi believe that the God of Islam (“Allah”) and the God of Hinduism (“Eeshwar”) are actually one and the same, but Gandhi is even on record as stating “Islam stands for the unity and brotherhood of mankind”; as a result of an article Gandhi personally wrote for Young India magazine, he is also on record as stating “The sayings of Muhammad are a treasure of wisdom, not only for Muslims but for all of mankind”.

    Readers can therefore draw their own conclusions with regards to which of these two historical individuals the EDL are ideologically and morally closest to: Gandhi himself, or the fanatically anti-Muslim bigot who killed him.

  49. Jai — on 4th October, 2011 at 10:32 am  

    The main article and the subsequent comments thread have served their purpose very effectively indeed. Not least because the EDL supporter currently using the alias “Terry Ist” has posted a total of 13 comments desperately avoiding giving an answer to the following simple questions directly addressed to him by Sarah AB in #9 and #21:

    Sarah AB, comment #9: Do you agree with this statement by Stephen Yaxley Lennon?

    “EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM watching this on Youtube, on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens, you got away with it. You had better understand that we have built a network from one end of this country to the other end, and we will not tolerate it, and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our citizens killed, maimed or hurt on British soil ever again.”

    Sarah AB, comment #21: So what would you like to happen, Terry 1st? If there is another terrible incident do you want ‘the Islamic community [to] feel the full force of the English Defence League’? (To quote Yaxley Lennon again) And what would that look like?

    “Terry Ist”’s persistent refusal to answer these very simple questions (frequently coupled with him posting irrelevent anti-Muslim propaganda instead) is the reason that his comments were deleted, as per the warning clearly stated in #23.

    It’s a noticeable pattern of behaviour amongst the most fanatical EDL supporters; instead of condemning the extreme behaviour of EDL leaders, they essentially try to justify it.

    “Terry Ist”’s actions speak volumes – as do Yaxley-Lennon’s own words. Speaking on behalf of the EDL, Yaxley-Lennon is now on record as directly accusing every single Muslim of collective guilt and deliberately making a direct threat against the entire British Muslim population, which includes Tariq Jahan (as Yaxley-Lennon himself is perfectly aware).

    Once again, the actions of Yaxley-Lennon and “Terry Ist” have confirmed the accuracy of the damning academic report, including the deceit, cowardice, bigotry and violence at the heart of the English Defence League.

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