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  • All black short-lists?


    by Sunny
    3rd September, 2007 at 1:00 pm    

    Keith Vaz MP wants a change in the law so political parties can impose all ethnic-minority shortlists. The plan being that in areas where a party think it wants a non-white candidate, it can make sure at least one is picked by the local constituency to represent them at the General Election. We already have all-women shortlists possible through a change in the law. Tories will no doubt complain this amounts to positive discrimination. True, but then so does giving benefits to married couples over single mothers.

    The real question is: should Keith Vaz be the man in charge of pushing ethnic minorities within Labour? This is the man who delivered Piara Khabra pt2 (Virendra Sharma) in Southall. I’m also worried such discrimination may deliver people of sub-standard merit to Parliament. But given the existing crop we have, quality would probably not be substantially reduced.


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    1. Rumbold — on 4th September, 2007 at 12:10 am  

      ” I’m also worried such discrimination may deliver people of sub-standard merit to Parliament. But given the existing crop we have, quality would probably not be substantially reduced.”

      Heh. You should stand Sunny.

    2. Longrider — on 4th September, 2007 at 9:37 am  

      “I’m also worried such discrimination may deliver people of sub-standard merit to Parliament. ”

      Er… Yes… That’s why any form of discrimination is wrong. quite apart from being morally bankrupt, it dilutes the talent pool. Any form of selection if it is to be effective must be based upon the competence of the candidate to conduct the task for which they are being selected and nothing else. Any political party that decides it wants non-whites only on a short-list is being racist - but then, I came to expect nothing less from the Labour party, it’s in part why I left.

    3. Nodn — on 4th September, 2007 at 10:33 am  

      Reverse racism, anyone?

    4. funkg — on 4th September, 2007 at 11:40 am  

      I’d vote for you Sunny, truly.

      Recently I looked at the profiles of councillors from a London borough particularly those from BME communities. What most surprised me was how certain counsellors sat in on this that and the other committee, when I have witnessed them at meetings sat on their backsides contributing nothing! Do we really want BME counsellors or politicians just because they may look like us? Is it a worry if a person puts themselves forward because it’s a good career move for them? Should we blame BME candidates for being ‘careerist’ when the white middle classes have used similar ploys for generations?

    5. The Common Humanist — on 4th September, 2007 at 1:11 pm  

      My CLP is presently selecting a new PPC, BME candidates automatically go through to the final selction if nominated by a branch - i.e. with no vote whereas white candidates have to face a vote.

      Plus its an all women shortlist.

      The underlying assumption therefore is that party members are so irredeemably racist and sexist that we can’t be trusted to put aside such prejudices and select the best and brightest.

    6. The Common Humanist — on 4th September, 2007 at 1:14 pm  

      Ahhh, did not mean to submit just yet.

      Now the all women shortlist has resulted in no grey suited men over 60 being in the hunt. This is progress.

      The quality of the candidates is extremely high from the all women shortlist.

      I have never met a racist in my life in the Party…..

      So why is special treatment for BME candidates fair?

      (Am open to persuasion)

    7. Leon — on 4th September, 2007 at 2:16 pm  

      I reckon Sunny should and indeed will run one day but not yet. Time is on his side (he’s still very young in MP terms), imo he’d better served raising his profile via his projects, getting stuck in a local community then going for it at the GE after next.

    8. Sunny — on 4th September, 2007 at 3:02 pm  

      Longrider: That’s why any form of discrimination is wrong. quite apart from being morally bankrupt, it dilutes the talent pool.

      Completely, which is why we have such a bunch of monkeys running our country. Postive Discrimination, which I’m not a fan of, is overt discrimination. But the Labour party is running it not because they favour such discrimination (though Vaz does) but because it’s a tacit admission that there is plenty of hidden discrimination out there.

      That subtle discrimination may be based on class, old boy networks, money, sex or race, but either way it’s there.

      To be honest, most of the ethnic minorities I know who are on the verge of getting into good positions are there because they’re intelligent and savvy. The last thing we need is a bunch of Keith Vaz’s buddies in power.
      *shudder*

    9. Jagdeep — on 4th September, 2007 at 3:40 pm  

      I’d vote for you Sunny, truly

      I reckon Sunny should and indeed will run one day but not yet. Time is on his side (he’s still very young in MP terms), imo he’d better served raising his profile via his projects, getting stuck in a local community then going for it at the GE after next.

      hahaha slurp slurp slurp

      I wanna see an election between Sunny and Tony Lit — Sikh baldhead versus Sikh playboy it would make great copy.

    10. pluralist — on 5th September, 2007 at 12:09 pm  

      I shudder too about more Keith Vaz’s in power not because I’m not in favour of more ethnic minority MPs but because of their (low) quality. Anything to attract more good quality candidates from ethnic minorities should be done.

      In my local constituency Labour have no chance of winning. Its always a fight between the Lib Dems and Tories, so what do Labour do? They field an asian candidate just for the sake of it knowing fully well he’s got no chance of winning. I would like to see more winnable seats with asian or black candidates.

    11. Supinder — on 6th September, 2007 at 10:33 pm  

      I unfortunately have the dubious honour of living in Keith Vaz’s Leicester constituency. To hear this disgraced ex-Minster harp on about all-black short lists makes me think…What’s in it for Keith.

      Vaz is the archetypal wide boy, the sooner Leicester and the Labour party get rid of this shameless, self-serving, bald cretin…the better

    12. Supinder — on 6th September, 2007 at 10:35 pm  

      Why does no one fail to mention the numerous allegations of financial corruption leveled against Vaz, and his shameful exit as Europe Minister?

    13. Sunny — on 6th September, 2007 at 11:17 pm  

      What’s in it for Keith.

      I reckon the fact that he will try and pick those new candidates and build up his own power base.

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