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		<title>By: Live Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1348#comment-81955</link>
		<dc:creator>Live Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Live Journal...&lt;/strong&gt;

I couldn&#039;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting...</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clairwil</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1348#comment-78939</link>
		<dc:creator>Clairwil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely part of being accountable is facing the courts? 
Like Britain before it America can do pretty much as it likes. In the long run it probably better to have our snouts half way up their bowels.

Leon is spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely part of being accountable is facing the courts?<br />
Like Britain before it America can do pretty much as it likes. In the long run it probably better to have our snouts half way up their bowels.</p>
<p>Leon is spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1348#comment-78937</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it has said it wonâ€™t be forthcoming in having its servicemen appear in foreign courts.&lt;/i&gt;

Which is the problem isn&#039;t it, as I point out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it has said it wonâ€™t be forthcoming in having its servicemen appear in foreign courts.</i></p>
<p>Which is the problem isn&#8217;t it, as I point out.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1348#comment-78921</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So much for that â€™special relationshipâ€™ hey?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think it ever really existed, nations don&#039;t develop relationships, they pursue interests. 

If Britain&#039;s &#039;interest&#039; ever substantially contradicted the US&#039; we&#039;d find ourself quite quickly amongst the &#039;Axis of Evil&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So much for that â€™special relationshipâ€™ hey?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it ever really existed, nations don&#8217;t develop relationships, they pursue interests. </p>
<p>If Britain&#8217;s &#8216;interest&#8217; ever substantially contradicted the US&#8217; we&#8217;d find ourself quite quickly amongst the &#8216;Axis of Evil&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pounce</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1348#comment-78911</link>
		<dc:creator>pounce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny wrote;
â€œOr maybe we want the US army to be more accountable when it makes mistakes?â€

The US is more accountable than a lot of western armies. It hasnâ€™t said it wonâ€™t provide information pertaining to this horrible incident, it has said it wonâ€™t be forthcoming in having its servicemen appear in foreign courts. Two different scenarios which your cut and paste goes a long way into blurring into one. A one which tells a totally different story from that presented in the times.

Sunny wrote;
â€œI was wondering how long it would take for someone to accuse me of â€œanti-American bigotryâ€.

Please with the â€œIâ€™m a victim bitâ€ point out where I call you a bigot and I will apologise. I havenâ€™t so feel no need to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny wrote;<br />
â€œOr maybe we want the US army to be more accountable when it makes mistakes?â€</p>
<p>The US is more accountable than a lot of western armies. It hasnâ€™t said it wonâ€™t provide information pertaining to this horrible incident, it has said it wonâ€™t be forthcoming in having its servicemen appear in foreign courts. Two different scenarios which your cut and paste goes a long way into blurring into one. A one which tells a totally different story from that presented in the times.</p>
<p>Sunny wrote;<br />
â€œI was wondering how long it would take for someone to accuse me of â€œanti-American bigotryâ€.</p>
<p>Please with the â€œIâ€™m a victim bitâ€ point out where I call you a bigot and I will apologise. I havenâ€™t so feel no need to.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;However trying to paint the impression that the Americans are all Gung ho cowboys is a pathetic attempt in which the Antiwar crowd try to rally support to their cause.&lt;/i&gt;

Or maybe we want the US army to be more accountable when it makes mistakes?

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to accuse me of &quot;anti-American bigotry&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However trying to paint the impression that the Americans are all Gung ho cowboys is a pathetic attempt in which the Antiwar crowd try to rally support to their cause.</i></p>
<p>Or maybe we want the US army to be more accountable when it makes mistakes?</p>
<p>I was wondering how long it would take for someone to accuse me of &#8220;anti-American bigotry&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: pounce</title>
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		<dc:creator>pounce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of berating the US for the untimely deaths of these poor soldiers. (Which is what a lot of posters who have no time for the British military are doing) as a form of political protest against Americans invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Here the questions we should be asking;
1)	Why was the US Air force called to provide close air support instead of the RAF?

2)	Who was the forward air controller on this air strike? How competent was he and what coordinates did he give?


3)	I notice that those who died were all under 21, why wasnâ€™t anybody who was older hurt? My point. A lot of the younger soldiers who havenâ€™t seen much combat may have felt inclined to take a snap with their mobile phones. Could this possible scenario in anyway have contributed to their deaths.

4)	The US use JDAMs munitions. This is a GPS delivery system with an Circular Error Probable accuracy of 13 metres. Combined with the sniper pod fitted as standard on all strike Eagles based at RAF Lakenheath. (The F15 was from there) that CEP will have been much smaller. In other words the GPS coordinates are downloaded to the bomb before it is released. The bomb is guided to the coordinates supplied. That is supplied by the guys on the ground who are under fire. Hence my question about who was the FAC.


5)	Harry black masking tape (politically correct) solutions to the situation in Afghanistan will not suffice. The military have the means to do the task at hand. However in order to get the job done the political will has to be there as well. As of this moment I havenâ€™t seen squat.

People die in wartime, call me cold call me sad. But itâ€™s true. I spent 22 years wearing green and I knew that somewhere along the line I may die. I havenâ€™t a deathwish and neither do the people who I know who still serve. Yet they know the risks of serving Queen and country. If any blame is to be allocated lets blame the Islamic terrorists who caused this tragedy to happen, lets blame the mandarins in power who never do anything because it costs too much. (Unless itâ€™s an expense account) However trying to paint the impression that the Americans are all Gung ho cowboys is a pathetic attempt in which the Antiwar crowd try to rally support to their cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of berating the US for the untimely deaths of these poor soldiers. (Which is what a lot of posters who have no time for the British military are doing) as a form of political protest against Americans invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Here the questions we should be asking;<br />
1)	Why was the US Air force called to provide close air support instead of the RAF?</p>
<p>2)	Who was the forward air controller on this air strike? How competent was he and what coordinates did he give?</p>
<p>3)	I notice that those who died were all under 21, why wasnâ€™t anybody who was older hurt? My point. A lot of the younger soldiers who havenâ€™t seen much combat may have felt inclined to take a snap with their mobile phones. Could this possible scenario in anyway have contributed to their deaths.</p>
<p>4)	The US use JDAMs munitions. This is a GPS delivery system with an Circular Error Probable accuracy of 13 metres. Combined with the sniper pod fitted as standard on all strike Eagles based at RAF Lakenheath. (The F15 was from there) that CEP will have been much smaller. In other words the GPS coordinates are downloaded to the bomb before it is released. The bomb is guided to the coordinates supplied. That is supplied by the guys on the ground who are under fire. Hence my question about who was the FAC.</p>
<p>5)	Harry black masking tape (politically correct) solutions to the situation in Afghanistan will not suffice. The military have the means to do the task at hand. However in order to get the job done the political will has to be there as well. As of this moment I havenâ€™t seen squat.</p>
<p>People die in wartime, call me cold call me sad. But itâ€™s true. I spent 22 years wearing green and I knew that somewhere along the line I may die. I havenâ€™t a deathwish and neither do the people who I know who still serve. Yet they know the risks of serving Queen and country. If any blame is to be allocated lets blame the Islamic terrorists who caused this tragedy to happen, lets blame the mandarins in power who never do anything because it costs too much. (Unless itâ€™s an expense account) However trying to paint the impression that the Americans are all Gung ho cowboys is a pathetic attempt in which the Antiwar crowd try to rally support to their cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen Blacker</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1348#comment-78901</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen Blacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Special Relationship&quot; has always been a one-way street. The moment Britain stops fooling itself than it&#039;s anything other than a US satellite with a grander history, the better for all of usâ€¦</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Special Relationship&#8221; has always been a one-way street. The moment Britain stops fooling itself than it&#8217;s anything other than a US satellite with a grander history, the better for all of usâ€¦</p>
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		<title>By: chrisc</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1348#comment-78849</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely disgraceful.

And what is Gordon &quot;tough guy&quot; Brown going to do about it?

Nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely disgraceful.</p>
<p>And what is Gordon &#8220;tough guy&#8221; Brown going to do about it?</p>
<p>Nothing.</p>
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