Further exposure of mass murderer’s links to British far-right


by Rumbold
26th July, 2011 at 9:03 am    

The BNP and EDL were under greater pressure last night after their connections with the Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik were laid bare:

The Norwegian fanatic has been in close contact with hundreds of British right-wing extremists for two years, it emerged last night. He chatted about ‘tactics’ on social networking sites with hundreds of members of the English Defence League (EDL) and the British National Party (BNP) and attended demonstrations and meetings here… Breivik has claimed he was recruited by two English Right-wing extremists at a UK meeting in 2002 attended by seven others.

It is good to see that far-right groups are being put under increasing scrutiny. For years we have seen neo-Nazis and their allies convicted of various terrorism-related charges, from plotting terror campaigns to detonating nail bombs. Yet much of the mainstream media has rarely focused on this threat, apart from when trials were going on. Even then, the coverage has seemed muted at times. This should be a wake up call for many that there are armed and dangerous far-right extremists out there, who are willing to slaughter their fellow citizens in the name of their twisted ideology.

Nor should the EDL and BNP be ignored in this debate. Whilst they will publically disown convicted terrorists like Anders Breivik, there is a significant overlap in many areas of their respective ideologies, which is why Anders Breivik was able to get on with so many BNP and EDL activists.


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  1. Yakoub — on 26th July, 2011 at 9:13 am  

    I’ve already got Nazi apologists and members tweeting me to refute the articles in The Guardian and Telegraph linking Anders Breivik and the EDL. As if Islamophobic racism doesn’t lead to the same outcome as every other form of racism – violence. If this crime had taken place on British soil, EDL members would have been forced into hiding or in need of police protection. The EDL are a contemptable mob of bigots, and if they had an ounce of shame, they’d disband today.

  2. Roger Thornhill — on 26th July, 2011 at 9:20 am  

    What links Anders B and other terrorists, IMHO, is a combination of Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism – a rejection of the sovereign individual and Rule of Law.

    I consider Islamists to be “far right” also, as well as Totalitarian, but someone could hold “far right” views and yet accept, if grudgingly, they live in a pluralistic society.

    To use the term “far right” helps us not at all just as using the word “Muslim” to describe certain terrorists does not. It is disingenuous and misleading.

    Once we realise the true threat comes from Authoritarian and Totalitarian entities – Governmental or independent, organised or disorganised, individual or groups, religious or secular, capital or labour, then the better we can then realise that we must not become them to defend against them.

  3. Rumbold — on 26th July, 2011 at 9:49 am  

    Roger Thornhill:

    I agree that the thing that binds extremists of all stripes is a comtept for the rule of law and a hatred for moderation.

  4. DisgustedOfTunbridgeWells — on 26th July, 2011 at 1:00 pm  

    “EDL ‘Jewish’ Div Endorse Norway Attacks”

    http://www.edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/jewish-div-endorse-norway-attacks

  5. damon — on 26th July, 2011 at 1:55 pm  

    I don’t agree with the OP. But of course Breivik and the EDL would have quite a lot of crossover in their views. The difference is … he went on to do what he did.

    I went to see that ”Just do it” film last night and the young activists on it were saying how it was capitalism that was at the root of all that was wrong in the world. Just like the Red Brigades and Baader Meinhof group did years before. And the ”Black Block” rioters who shashed up Gothenburg in 2001 during the EU summit.

    So what if he marched with the EDL? I once went on a Bloody Sunday commeration march in Derry where there were Sinn Fein members and IRA supporters marching.
    It doesn’t mean I was anyway connected with them, it was open to anyone and I just went along to see what it was like.

    I don’t like the EDL one bit, but I don’t think they should be banned or anything like that either.
    What would having them declared ”a far right group” mean? The EDL angle is a weak one. Or is being presented in a weak way so far. Maybe because it’s seen as such an open goal people aren’t trying very hard and are just going for the easy stuff.

    The EDL and Melanie Phillips do have a case to answer for IMO, but at the moment Sunny’s sites – particularly LC, are really going for the ”low hanging fruit” I thnk.

  6. Optimist — on 26th July, 2011 at 4:36 pm  

    Come on damon@5, give it a rest.

    You are begining to sound just like Tom Harris and Melanie Phillips and you are getting very boring!!

  7. damon — on 26th July, 2011 at 4:54 pm  

    Optimist, I haven’t seen you say one interesting thing yet. Do you just want bland generic stuff you can get in the Socialist Worker?
    Tell me what Breivik ”links” to the British far right that have been proved so far?
    That he had EDL friends on his Facebook? Do you think they talked about what the best caliber guns were for gong on a killing spree?
    What was that nonsense you cut and pasted about the 1981 ”Brixton Uprisings” the other day? It was just lefty student stuff.

    But I will admit, I am probably out of sorts on PP with you and several other of the posters who just want to keep things as mediocre and dull as possible.

  8. Optimist — on 26th July, 2011 at 4:58 pm  

    damon-

    many people perfer bland to boring – and you are absolutely boring!

  9. damon — on 26th July, 2011 at 6:24 pm  

    Optimist, that is just saying nothing at all. Much of Britain would rather watch the X Factor and The Apprentice, and see anything remotely highbrow as ”boring”. Is it that this website is just meant for people like you, Douglas and Joe90 to come out with the most obvious two dimensional clichés about just about everything?
    The thread is about the EDL. There is slightly more to discussing them than the black and white ”UAF way” I think you would like. And I understand that people like you will resent anyone coming in and trying to suggest that it’s not all so clear cut as you want it to be.
    The EDL are a problem, but at the moment I think they aren’t more than an unfortunate symptom of the political climate we have today. With ”debate” being so polarised, that there is actually very little. More like ‘islands of opinion’ cut off from each other by lack of comprehension and laziness.

    Optimist, the EDL went and caused a bit of bother outside this event where Sheikh Khalid Yasin was talking to hundreds of muslims in Reading the other day.
    http://www.rasama.co.uk/Events/The-Purpose-of-Life.aspx#c

    What do you think about such a public event? Do you think it should have been boycotted or protested against? The EDL thought so, but they were the only people who even noticed it, whereas, if it had been Geert Wilders speaking there, there would have been bus loads of protesters at it.
    Do you have any opinion on Sheikh Khalid Yasin?

  10. jamal — on 26th July, 2011 at 6:57 pm  

    damon so you support and defend the edl actions even praising them in parts how sad!

  11. damon — on 26th July, 2011 at 8:55 pm  

    damon so you support and defend the edl actions even praising them in parts how sad!

    I’m sure the mods of this site were hoping to attract better people to it. But it really is stuck with a few thickos at the moment who are dragging it down.
    Maybe I’m part of that problem too, but how the heck am I supporting and defending the EDL? I think they are violent stupid football hooligans. And attract racists and islamophobes and are bad news all around really.
    That’s hardly an endorsement is it?

    That I think they are more of a symptom of the lack of decent political debate we have these days, rather than anything particularly dynamic in their own right, does not mean I’m supporting them in any way. I have no time for the ”Eurabia” idea and those who push it. But I’m not surprised that it has chimed with a section of the most lumpen part of society. Saying that I’m ”not surprised” isn’t support for them for pete’s sake.

    But Jamal, I see you and some others want to keep things so simple that reality is actually distorted.
    And these idiot EDL people get puffed up into ”Nazis” and such. All I am, is critical of that lazy analysis.
    That you say that makes me a supporter of the EDL then, must mean you’re as thick as they are.

  12. jamal — on 27th July, 2011 at 11:16 am  

    damon

    quote
    “What do you think about such a public event? Do you think it should have been boycotted or protested against? The EDL thought so, but they were the only people who even noticed it,”

    they where the only ones who noticed it? what you mean the ones who always get drunk and jump on the islamaphobia bandwagon and shout muslim this and muslim that,like yourself obviously!

    your comments are on many threads on pp and i view them as playing same old record of spreading fear & hyping islam as a threat!

  13. damon — on 27th July, 2011 at 12:14 pm  

    your comments are on many threads on pp and i view them as playing same old record of spreading fear & hyping islam as a threat!

    I’d say that you add to islamophobia Jamal, as you make accusations that have no basis and would make reasonable debate impossible.

    If I flag up someone like Sheikh Khalid Yasin, that doesn’t mean I am being hostile to islam or muslims.
    I’ve seen him being interviewed and I don’t think his message is a good one. He’s a wild conspiracy theorist, with crack pot ideas about AIDS and 9/11.
    He says like you, that everyone is picking on the muslims … even when they are just saying that people like him are a bad influence.

    So who is really more of a problem here? Me for pointing that out or you for taking the victimhood line all the time? You feed the Eurabia nutters.

  14. Edwin Greenwood — on 27th July, 2011 at 1:08 pm  

    @Yakoub #1:

    If this crime had taken place on British soil, EDL members would have been forced into hiding or in need of police protection.

    Really?

    Previously unknown blond blue-eyed British White Nationalist nutter angry at mass immigration in general and Muslims in particular sets off lorry bomb at Millbank then guns down group of largely White members of Young Labour gathered on Eel Pie Island. Searchlight/HnH and the MSM desperately try to hype up the tenuous references to the EDL in Chummy’s online Mein Kampf into proof of complicity.

    And you reckon that will result in the EDL needing protection. From whom, pray?

  15. jamal — on 28th July, 2011 at 11:18 am  

    damon

    save the drama you play the same record over and over again you object to a palestinian or arab preacher being let in here ok but you silent if its a israeli politicians and member of idf allowed in same country. Wheres the consistency????

    In your posts you play on the anti islam ticket time and time again, that is no problem no one forcing you to like muslims but don’t try and act as if you fair and unbiased because that you obviously are not!

  16. damon — on 28th July, 2011 at 12:03 pm  

    Jamal, you just make things up.
    I say that it’s not good that people like Sheikh Khalid Yasin have an audience that will come out and hear them speak at places like Reading Leisure Centre or the East London mosque.
    The same as it was highly dodgy that the spiritual leader of Jemaah IslamiyahAbu Bakar Bashir – had an audience waiting for him in Australia when he toured the country’s mosques and Islamic centres in the years before the Bali bomb of 2002.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakar_Bashir

    Of course a lot of Australians were upset when they heard that he had previously been at all the main mosques around the country, speaking to large audiences.

    But I have not called for anybody to be banned from Britain. And I do not like pro-Israeli hawks in the slightest, and if there were to be some right wing IDF or whatever ultra-Zionist guy come over here and do a speaking tour, I’d be as disappointed if he had a large audience in Britain too.

    So you see Jamal? You’re just making stuff up.
    All I have said is that it’s very unfortunate that these idiot religious nut-jobs have a ready audience in Britain, and that crowds will turn out to hear them speaking.

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