It’s The Weekend Open Thread


by Clairwil
18th August, 2007 at 1:00 pm    

Hello,
As Katy has hung up her golden open thread robes I’ll be filling in. Be warned I’m fierce and spoling for a fight! So to keep this thread pleasant and jolly let’s have no politics, religion or any squabble fodder at all.

But enough of what you can’t do. Here’s what you can comment about. Romantic mishaps, hilarious anedotes, your weekend plans, your summer hols, the weather, puppetry, hobbies, insects and anything else you think might tickle the picklers collective fancy. Just keep the mood light please.

This has been amusing me very much this week. I don’t care what anyone says but you can’t beat a bit of ‘Trapped In The Closet’.

I shall leave you now with a plug for one of my little projects. You don’t have to be Scottish or even remotley connected to the place to join just a bit of a skiver looking for a message board to while away the hours on when you should be working.

Cheerio


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  1. Sunny — on 18th August, 2007 at 2:05 pm  

    hello! I woke up not long ago. I’m celebrating today because I won at poker last night for the first time in months. Alas, it was only 2 pounds, but it’s the winning that matters.

  2. Clairwil — on 18th August, 2007 at 2:16 pm  

    Good. I hope some of your luck rubs off on me. I’m on a losing streak with the bingo just now.

  3. Leon — on 18th August, 2007 at 2:32 pm  

    Ello peeps, its an overcast weekend but that’s because tomorrow I get to have my third birthday celebration! :D

  4. Rohin — on 18th August, 2007 at 5:12 pm  

    Leon, are you the queen or something? More than one birthday!

    I just woke up. Went to bed at 10am – my first night shift. In A&E. Friday night. Don’t ask.

  5. Jai wearing his white linen suit and panama hat whilst waiting for the sun to come out — on 18th August, 2007 at 5:22 pm  

    Someone on Sepia Mutiny recently linked to the following article; it’s basically a satirical essay on sneaky techniques to suppress discussions about racism (yes Clairwil, I know you said “nothing political”, but bear with me), but it’s very funny as it quite accurately describes some of the nefarious tactics people use in arguments on any given topic even when they know they’re in the wrong.

    URL: http://coffeeandink.livejournal.com/607897.html

    Sometimes commenters here on PP do this too (on various subjects), but they’re recognisable behavioural traits amongst people in “real life” as well. I found the article amusing anyway. Enjoy.

  6. Vikrant — on 18th August, 2007 at 5:48 pm  

    Blah.. been up all night doing assignments… :(

  7. Don — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:11 pm  

    Would it be possible to have a ‘resources’ or ‘reference’ section where items like Jai’s handy guide could be stored?

    I can think of several articles of long-term value that many people might find useful.

    Rohin, I appreciate that confidentiality is crucial to the doctor-patient relationship, but I trust you’ll let us know if during your time at A&E you come across any bad alibis for obvious sexual encounters with a household object.

    (I don’t just mean, ‘I was hoovering and spilled coffee on my trousers and stumbled while removing them… .’ Because that can happen. In fact it’s relatively common.)

  8. Don — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:14 pm  

    Vikrant,

    Are you currently in the states? Bring us up to date. In fact you should do another post, when you’re less pressured.

  9. Clairwil — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:15 pm  

    Jai,
    I forgive you as you’re so well dressed!

    Rohin,
    Don is right! We want those ‘one in a million chance’ sex mishaps.

    Leon,
    Happy Third Birthday.

  10. Rohin — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:30 pm  

    Yeah people always ask me about that. Unfortunately no butt-removal antics so far. Plenty of arseholes though.

  11. El Sexy Beast — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:36 pm  

    I am demob happy, for a holiday in my mountain-top villa awaits.
    The Mediterranean glistening on the horizon, the natural splendour of my neighbour, a national park. I’m counting down the hours.

  12. sonia — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:49 pm  

    “fierce and spoiling for a fight!”… :-)

    hope you’re all having a good weekend! its raining cats and dogs here in brummie land!

  13. El Cid — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:52 pm  

    Memo to Rumbold: that was El Cid not El Sexy Beast

  14. El Cid — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:53 pm  

    Ooops, wrong thread

  15. Clairwil — on 18th August, 2007 at 6:55 pm  

    Sonia,
    The weathers the same here. Boo! I can’t get out to play.

  16. El Cid — on 18th August, 2007 at 7:08 pm  

    Clairwil, what’s your take on “Game On”?
    I has an old fashioned feel to it, but it has the making of a classic. Sadly, I don’t imagine oldies get that much of a chance to get out and about because it’s too intimidating. But maybe it’s different in Scotland.

  17. El Cid — on 18th August, 2007 at 7:09 pm  

    I mean “Still Game”

  18. Leon — on 18th August, 2007 at 7:10 pm  

    Leon, are you the queen or something? More than one birthday!

    Haha! I know, it’s great! So far it’s been one with work mates, another with family and tomorrow is with friends. :D

  19. El Cid — on 18th August, 2007 at 7:34 pm  
  20. Clairwil — on 18th August, 2007 at 8:07 pm  

    El Cid,
    I love Still Game, it’s very popular up here. I know they showed the last series UK wide and it got terrible reviews which doesn’t bode well. I expect the accents put people off.

    And for those who don’t know what we’re on about….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7m4XhEkKM

  21. Don — on 18th August, 2007 at 8:29 pm  

    I like Still Game; the pacing is relaxed and the gags are relished, there’s no pretence of naturalism but no playing to the camera. The dialogue is sharp and the characters are delineated enough to identify, but not so much that you care when shit happens to them.

    Of course, it could turn into ‘Last of the Summer Buckfast’ if it runs too long.

  22. Malky Muscular — on 19th August, 2007 at 1:06 am  

    I love Still Game myself, and both that and Chewin’ The Fat got really good reviews in the national press.

    I suppose it’s whether it connects – Rab C was watched by millions of people Down South long after Scots had given up on it.

  23. Sofia — on 19th August, 2007 at 9:11 am  

    I’m working today..boohoo….weather’s cack but hey ho, they said september would be nice..now that’s made me feel better!! NOT…what’s the point of summer in September? On a brighter note, i’ve got 8 days annual leave left…till April…loooool…

  24. Sunny — on 19th August, 2007 at 12:24 pm  

    That’s too bad sofia, what kind of work do you do?

    I’m off to a BBQ now! Well they moved it indoors, predictably, but I’ll be hanging around west London stuffing my face with cake…mmm…

  25. Jai — on 19th August, 2007 at 12:28 pm  

    Sunny — Urgent message for you on the other thread, buddy.

    —————————–

    This is from MSN: It’s some footage of a UFO sighting over Haiti. It’s a fake, apparently…….well, that’s what “they” want you to think ;)

    Link: http://video.uk.msn.com/v/en-gb/v.htm?g=f3a58ec0-2fa3-4b14-938d-dedf48abc7bd&t=s378&f=34/64&p=&fg=

    (Click on “Play” in the blue playlist box on the right — the video loads in a few seconds).

  26. El Cid — on 19th August, 2007 at 1:05 pm  

    I think the accents are part of its charm.

  27. Rumbold — on 19th August, 2007 at 2:04 pm  

    Marco Materazzi reveals what he said to make Zidane headbutt him in the 2006 World Cup Final:

    The players were tugging each other’s shirts during a set-piece in the Italian penalty area when Zidane turned to Materazzi and said “If you really want my shirt, you can have it after the match.”

    At this point Matrix admits he responded by saying: “I’d prefer your slut of a sister.”

    http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug18l.html

  28. El Cid — on 19th August, 2007 at 3:01 pm  

    Holiday book tips — now that’s an open thread discussion if ever I saw one. Intellectual stimulation or relaxing entertainment. Magnum Opus or popular novel?
    Hmmmmmmmm….
    Should I take Disgrace by Coetzee, or Le Grand Meaulnes by Alain-Fournier, or buy that book that caught my eye the other day in the paper: Afghan by Freddie Forsythe?

    What would you do? Any holiday must-reads out there?

  29. Don — on 19th August, 2007 at 3:20 pm  

    It’s been raining steadily for two days, so ‘And The Ass Saw The Angel’ is looking appropriate.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_the_Ass_Saw_the_Angel

    Just starting ‘Salmon Fishing In The Yemen’. The title made me consider re-reading Brautigan, but so often going back to books I thought were the biz just makes me realise what a shallow pretentious twerp I was. ( Thank god those days are gone ;) )

    Le Grand Meaulnes still stands up though, as does Saint-Exupéry. But Hesse …

    So recommended holiday reading plus worst ever once-loved book to re-visit.

  30. sahil — on 19th August, 2007 at 3:45 pm  

    Rumbold you watch Seria A?? I’m a huge MEEEEELAN supporter, on that watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZrVfMRyoE0

  31. sahil — on 19th August, 2007 at 3:48 pm  

    “Any holiday must-reads out there?”

    Shooting History; Jon Snow

    A Mathematician Plays the Stock Market; John Allen Paulos

    1215 The Year of Magna Carta; Danzinger and Gillingham

  32. Rumbold — on 19th August, 2007 at 5:35 pm  

    Holiday must-reads:

    ‘Oliver Cromwell’ by John Morrill:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oliver-Cromwell-Very-Interesting-People/dp/019921753X/ref=pd_bowtega_2/202-4691957-9955830?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187540886&sr=1-2

    Only 144 pages, something you can read in a day or two without much effort, yet it is still highly scholarly. It is also cheap.

    Sahil:

    I am also a Milan fan- good to see that you support the proper Milan team, not ‘Inter Milan’, whom everybody in Italy refers to as Internatzionale. Inter fans boast that they won the title, when really they were the only team with a chance; Juve were relegated, Milan, Florentina and Lazio docked points, and Roma slapped with a transfer embargo. And Milan still managed to become European champions- better than a Seria A scudetto.

  33. sahil — on 19th August, 2007 at 5:37 pm  

    There is no other Milanese team Rumbold :D

  34. Rumbold — on 19th August, 2007 at 5:42 pm  

    I am disappointed with the summer transfer campaign though. Dida needed replacing, and Pato cannot play until the New Year. Still, we were the best last year even though Ronaldo could not play in the European Cup.

  35. sahil — on 19th August, 2007 at 5:53 pm  

    I know what you mean, BUT, our DNA should make sure we perform again. Gourcuff could possibly show what he is made of this year, plus lets not forget Bonera and kaladze(?). The only team which possibly are more complete is Barcelona. I’m pretty relaxed, Inter will choke as usual and Juze are not the finished article yet. As for Chelsea or Man U competing with us, forget it, Chelsea just have a negative attitude, and Man U is too hotch potch at the moment.

  36. sahil — on 19th August, 2007 at 7:28 pm  

    Sorry to talk about this but I’ll take any suggestions if there are any.

    Jai, El CID, Sid: Okay I’m throwing caution to wind but here goes: I studied economics in a red bric uni in Scotland, but I got a 2:2, luckily (or so I thought) I got into the masters program. I got a distinction, and my dissertation was published (WOO HOO), BUT, I was not able to even secure 1 interview after 73 applications. Not all related to banks, some in Inter-dealer brokers etc. I then decided to do the SII SFD exam and passed 1st time, but no luck. So now I’m doing a program called the CQF:

    http://www.7city.com/cqf.php?area=quants&outline=cqf&course=cqf

    And am doing quite well. I’ve got a scholarship and am doing well in the exams (90% average) but no feedback from any HH or HRs. What should I do? Quit finance, and take my PhD offer? Or should I persist, (this has been going on for a while i.e. 1 1/2 year). Quite stressed I have money (a lot) to pay back. Any suggestion would be brilliant. Thanks

  37. Rumbold — on 19th August, 2007 at 10:05 pm  

    Sahil:

    Gourcuff has lots of potential, but will he get a run in the team? I am impressed with Seedorf’s revival- just as you think he is useless he becomes good. This is the sainted Maldini’s last year as a player- Maldini junior junior better hurry up and get into the team.

    Do you really want a job in the City? You might crack under the pressure and end up hurling insults at another City boy (a la the other thread). You seem well qualified (not that I am in any position to judge)- but if you really enjoy academia, you should do a PhD and become a lecturer, and then start paying off debts.

  38. Ravi Naik — on 20th August, 2007 at 1:46 am  

    BUT, I was not able to even secure 1 interview after 73 applications.

    I think your lack of experience outside academia may be hindering you from achieving the position that you are after. Perhaps you should look for a junior position that requires little or no experience, in order to get a better job in the future. Also, you should consider revising your CV, as it is all that stands between getting an interview or having your application immediately rejected.

    I do agree with Rumbold, though. You might want to pursue life in academia, instead of the city. The pay is not bad either, as you work considerably less hours, more holidays, less stress, and best of all, there is no risk of you becoming an arrogant, Panama hat, linen suit wearing pompous arse.

  39. El Cid — on 20th August, 2007 at 8:40 am  

    Thanks Don and Sahil for the book tips.
    No more? Nothing Asian? Nothing comical?

    Sahil suggest you chat to a couple of specialist recruitment consultants. Choose one of the ones which post jobs on http://www.efinancialcareers.com

    Your 2:2 might be an issue. It’s very competitive, as you know. But you can clearly demonstrate your determination to push on with your subsequent qualifications.

    Any language skills? They are worth playing up.

    We could have just as easily done this privately btw.

  40. Jai — on 20th August, 2007 at 9:05 am  

    best of all, there is no risk of you becoming an arrogant, Panama hat, linen suit wearing pompous arse.

    Ah, Ravi. Still sneaking onto the internet in the middle of the night and taking pot-shots at people, chortling into the darkness. Good, good. Whatever floats your boat.

    Having said that, the rest of your message was excellent and spot-on (I usually think most of your posts are, for the record). I couldn’t have said it better myself, especially the first paragraph.

  41. Jai — on 20th August, 2007 at 9:36 am  

    Sahil,

    Your Masters should compensate for your 2:2 if you play it up enough, especially the part about getting a distinction and getting your paper published (congratulations, by the way). Excellent stuff.

    First of all, as Ravi rightly said, your CV may be the main showstopper as it’s your primary selling point at this stage. Talk to any friends who are already working in the City or in consulting, get them to take a look at it, and then re-write the document. You can even use one of your friends’ CVs as a template. Or (best of all) send it to some reputable recruitment consultants and get them to take a look at it; they’ll either be able to offer constructive advice on how to change the format/contents, or — if they’re willing to represent you themselves — they’ll add you to their candidate list and re-write your CV themselves.

    I’m assuming you’re going for graduate positions. If not, you should be. It’s been a long time since I graduated and, at the time, it was usually the done thing to apply for graduate programmes directly via HR (at least amongst my peers, I can’t speak for everyone) rather than recruitment consultancies. However, if this has changed in the intervening years, your best bet to get into the City is definitely via agencies. The best ones (eg. Huxley, Finance Professionals) will have longstanding professional arrangements with the major i-banks, many of them will even have regular direct face-to-face contact with hiring managers so will be in a good position to “sell” you. If you’re lucky enough to register with the right agencies then they should be able to arrange interviews on your behalf very quickly — much faster than if you applied online via HR, and they’ll be able to “prep” you thoroughly beforehand in order to maximise your chances. However, bear in mind that I’m speaking as an “experienced hire”, so you’ll need to talk to agencies and double-check that this process also applies to fresh graduates.

    I’m very impressed with the fact that you’re doing the CQF (insanely expensive ! But hopefully it’ll turn out to be worth it for you). I’m also familiar with 7City (nice people aren’t they ?). One thing I will say is that you need to have a firm career path in mind — or at least be able to explain your actions and goals to agencies and hiring managers. I don’t know exactly what kind of roles you’re going for (trading/quant/corporate finance-M&A/IT/middle-office etc), but you don’t want to come across as though you’re just randomly doing as many certifications as possible with the hope that you’ll get in somewhere. You need to be targetting specific graduate programmes.

    The link El Cid supplied in post #39 is very good — incidentally, I’d been thinking of the same one when I read your message on the other thread. That website has sub-sections specifically for fresh graduates trying to break into the City, ie. http://students.efinancialcareers.co.uk/

    It also has a message board which it would be good for you to check out; coincidentally, there’s a thread ongoing right now which is focused on someone in a similar predicament to you: http://news.students.efinancialcareers.co.uk/ITEM_FR/newsItemId-10925

    Another good source of information is Vault, ie. http://www.vault.com

    It has detailed profiles on the major investment banks along with specific job roles; there’s also a huge discussion forum there, broken down via industries and hiring firms — it’s mostly American-focused, but it might be useful for you to take a look anyway.

    This is all I can think of right now but I hope it’s been helpful. If you have any further thoughts/questions then keep ‘em coming; I’m sure that the rest of the guys here will be happy to try to help you out too.

  42. Sofia — on 20th August, 2007 at 9:51 am  

    Blimey, don’t you lot have anything better to do on the weekend that pickle:P:P
    Comment 24: Sunny, I work for a national charity and was holding an event on the weekend…which did not go too well because well let’s face it, getting Asians out of bed on a Sunday usually requires a lot more than health messages..lol..Anyway, plod on…

  43. El Cid — on 20th August, 2007 at 10:15 am  

    Sofia, not when it’s pissing down outside, one has a hangover after a great boozy dinner, and there’s plenty to entertain you online while multitasking and playing “Who wants to be a millionaire?” with the kids. Whatever rocks your boat.

    In fact, maybe the weather didn’t help you either, per chance?

  44. Leon — on 20th August, 2007 at 11:45 am  

    Haha I’m such a jammy f**ker! Just heard from another friend who’s away they want to have a mini birthday celebration when they get back into the country! Number four!!!

    Yesterdays was great too, my mad friends clubbed together and bought me a Nintendo Wii! :D

    That’s console number four (along with two laptops and a desktop PC heh, I’m such a geek).

  45. Sofia — on 20th August, 2007 at 1:03 pm  

    Hmm..yeh i think maybe the weather did play its part, but i’m trying to think positively and get on with organising something else…
    As for Leon…can i have some of your mad friends?? i want a nintendo wii..lol

  46. Sunny — on 20th August, 2007 at 1:43 pm  

    let’s face it, getting Asians out of bed on a Sunday usually requires a lot more than health messages..lol..Anyway, plod on…

    sorry to hear that, but yeah, you’re right.

  47. Leon — on 20th August, 2007 at 1:53 pm  

    As for Leon…can i have some of your mad friends?? i want a nintendo wii..lol

    No! They’re all MINE! Mwa haw haw haw! :D

  48. Nyrone — on 20th August, 2007 at 1:55 pm  

    I LOVE my Wii! I recommend Wii Tennis, Wario Ware and Res Evil 4. I bought mine on day 1 & also use it to watch Youtube, make miis and check the news, as well as play all those retro games, like Golden Axe!

    The interface is so interesting, going back to a PS2 pad afterwards just seemed so boring…however, the graphics still suck.

  49. Leon — on 20th August, 2007 at 2:03 pm  

    Heh, can’t wait to get a good sesh on it! I’ve got Res4 (yeah I know new control and everything but…) already on the Gamecube, wasn’t a big fan tbh but then never really been into the Resi games.

    I like the look of Trauma Centre on it though, and of course can’t wait for the next Metroid game as well as Mario Kart!

  50. Nyrone — on 20th August, 2007 at 2:26 pm  

    Yeah, they both look great! I’m excited about Galaxy and Smash Bros too:)

  51. Leon — on 20th August, 2007 at 2:39 pm  

    Ah yeah! Definitely! Galaxy looks mental!

  52. Ravi Naik — on 20th August, 2007 at 3:57 pm  

    I will probably buy a wii (as I don’t have mad friends ;) just to play Zelda and the new Mario Galaxy. And probably Metroid. I have played all three games in all generations of nintendo consoles, and breaking this tradition would make me feel… old.

  53. Leon — on 20th August, 2007 at 4:05 pm  

    You know we need to find a friendly pub with a massive tv to hijack for a picklers gaming afternoon.;)

  54. Sofia — on 20th August, 2007 at 4:18 pm  

    ok now you’re just rubbin it in!!

  55. Leon — on 20th August, 2007 at 4:43 pm  

    Haha! :D

  56. sahil — on 20th August, 2007 at 6:39 pm  

    Thanks for the info Jai, El Cid and Ravi. I guess I’ll just keep persisting and update my CV. Yeah the CQF is expensive (but they give out scholarships) but it is really well taught and by some of the best known names in finance. If something like a MSc in City of oxford costs £12K this is not all that expensive.

  57. Jai — on 21st August, 2007 at 9:16 am  

    No problem Sahil, glad I could help. I do wish you the very best of luck — I hope everything works out for you, buddy.

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