Comments on: Ex-BNP ‘terrorist’ gets jail

By: Angelina

Angelina — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:34:32 +0000

I agree that the national press should say far more when these incidents occur. The BNP are a threat to our democracy and way of life. People need to be made aware of this. It is far more important than which soap star has been found drunk in the gutter, the private life of a so called reality TV programme contestant, a footballers new haircut and all the other endless non story’s they subject us to in the guise of news.

By: Jai

Jai — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:49:59 +0000

Re: posts #19,20,21.

Interestingly, there was an episode of “Spooks” in the last series which focused on pretty much this kind of thing, except for the fact that the main protagonists were “Christian terrorists” rather than members of the BNP. But they were still going for retaliatory “Declaring holy war against Islam” violence, supposedly in response to the actions of jihadis and fundamentalist Islamic clerics.

By: Frank London

Frank London — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:16:35 +0000

Myhmmyd pydyhyl

By: Don

Don — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:18:29 +0000

5cc,

Yeah, I know the BNP, I know them from way back – and their predecessors.

But ‘…if Robert Cottage had managed to blow up a Mosque full of Muslims…there would be many juries that would have some sympathy’? Really?

I don’t think so. But if I’m wrong and The Dude is right, we’re fucked.

By: 5cc

5cc — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:11:07 +0000

Don:

Only a touch hyperbolic. It might not have appeared in the press – but we’re talking about people who think Muslims are plotting to take over countries by raping women here.

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:04:46 +0000

He seemed a weird fantasist, so who knows what motivated him.

By: sid

sid — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:58:30 +0000

Rumbold, do you think foreign policy affected the motives of this particular terrorist?

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:53:25 +0000

They are just exaggerating Don.

By: Don

Don — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:52:27 +0000

#19, #20, #21,

You guys really believe that? I may be out of touch with how things are in London, but that seems hyperbolic to me.

By: Sunny

Sunny — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:40:52 +0000

Well done (Sunny?).

I am responsible indeed. Readers please just ignore trolls, they will be sanitised every time.

By: 5cc

5cc — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:20:27 +0000

Or he could use the tabloid defence of ‘they can do it, why can’t we’.

‘We’re in a war on terror, and Muslim civilians attack us, so why can’t our civilians attack them?’

I can just see the headlines on the Express.

By: sid

sid — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:06:24 +0000

He could morally and politically defend a decision to pre-emptively detonate a bomb in a Mosque full of Muslims since it is part and parcel of the Missionary Liberalism as preached by Bush and Blair.

By: The Dude

The Dude — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:48:42 +0000

Say if Robert Cottage had managed to blow up a Mosque full of Muslims, what scares me is that he could have made the defense, saying that he did what he did in the light of the UK’s present war against terror. Depending on the timing, there would be many juries that would have some sympathy with his defense.

By: Don

Don — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:42:34 +0000

I think you exceeded your vowel quota, diden’t you?

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:39:23 +0000

Hrry’s vowels are missing. Well done (Sunny?).

By: 5cc

5cc — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:54:33 +0000

It’s weird that the judge would accept the defence that the explosions would only be set off in some future civil war.

Just over a minute on the BNP website (and yes, I do feel like I need a wash now), turns up quotes like:

“These past 50 odd years the West has been on the defensive trying (ineffectually) to keep Islam at bay and Islam has been on the offensive their declared aim being to convert by armed force the infidels”

“In Britain, what the Spanish, French & Germans tried to do and failed; Islam succeeded and did so withÂout firing a shot.”

Sorry for reproducing that bile. Still, it shows that the BNP, and certainly nutters like Robert Cottage, think there already *is* a civil war that needs fighting. Sure, the BNP don’t *openly* advocate violence – but there’s already the assumption that we are in the process of being invaded.

By: sofia

sofia — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:51:26 +0000

So when i buy chappati flour from the local cashncarry..do you think they have an alert sent out the secret service?? i’m scared..

By: Kismet Hardy

Kismet Hardy — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:54:50 +0000

“however, he had pleaded guilty to possessing chemicals, he had no lethal explosives…”

I’m sure the terrorists cops and the media would say ‘well he’s just a harmless chap really’ if he was a muslim dude

Now if he was carrying chapatti flour…

By: ZinZin

ZinZin — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:24:41 +0000

We like to think that judges are out of touch but the truth is that they are influenced by public opinion. That is why BNP terrorists get lighter sentences than muslim terrorists. Also you have to take into account 7/7.

By: Rumbold

Rumbold — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:07:20 +0000

To get back onto topic, his sentence seems rather light. The judge accepted his case that the chemicals were only for defence, which she should not have, as clearly the terrorist was untrustworthy. Even if he had planned to use them only in ‘defence’, he was unstable, so could have become convinced that he was under attack (maybe from the Asian postman or something) and unleashed the chemicals. Hopefully Roger’s prediction will come true, because I believe that a person who thinks like that will always be a danger, no matter how the judge rationalises it.