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  • Christian extremists

    by Sunny
    17th July, 2007 at 6:35 pm    

    I was going to post this earlier in the week but forgot.

    Last week, for the first time in history, a Hindu delivered the US Senate’s morning invocation. But three protestors belonging to the Christian Right anti-abortion group ‘Operation Save America’ kept interrupting, stating, “Lord Jesus, forgive us father for allowing a prayer of the wicked, which is an abomination in your sight.”
    via Think Progress.

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    1. Don — on 17th July, 2007 at 7:05 pm  

      Chances of an atheist being invited to give the invocation? Somewhere behind Satanists and the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.

    2. Osman — on 17th July, 2007 at 7:13 pm  

      This is irritating. I suppose it is to be expected.

    3. Don — on 17th July, 2007 at 7:21 pm  

      From the OSA website,

      Theology Moved To The Senate And Was Arrested
      Press Release • 7/12/2007
      Theology has moved from the church house onto the floor of the United States Senate, and has been arrested.

      Ante Pavkovic, Kathy Pavkovic, and Kristen Sugar were all arrested in the chambers of the United States Senate as that chamber was violated by a false Hindu god. The Senate was opened with a Hindu prayer placing the false god of Hinduism on a level playing field with the One True God, Jesus Christ. This would never have been allowed by our Founding Fathers.

      It’s difficult to decide whether their understanding of christian theology is worse than their knowledge of American history or vice versa.

    4. Carl Harpin — on 17th July, 2007 at 7:31 pm  

      Nothing new, the right wing did the same when Keith Ellison was elected and chose to take his pledge usign a Koran instead of a Bible.

      With respect Don - American History is hardly a beacon of light if you werren’t Christian. The Founding Fathers were people who disagreed with Christian thinking and so set-up their own. The Red Indians were hardly given free voice!

    5. Don — on 17th July, 2007 at 7:47 pm  

      ‘ American History is hardly a beacon of light if you werren’t Christian.’

      No argument there. I had more in mind (and I promise not to quote-mine too much)

      From Jefferson’s biography:
      “…an amendment was proposed by inserting the words, ‘Jesus Christ…the holy author of our religion,’ which was rejected ‘By a great majority in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan, the Hindoo and the Infidel of every denomination.’”

    6. leon — on 17th July, 2007 at 9:41 pm  

      Slight derail, Sunny how did you manage to get the YouTube video to show up that small like that?

    7. douglas clark — on 18th July, 2007 at 3:15 am  


      Thanks for the quote, some Americans tend to forget that, when it suits them.

    8. zucchini — on 18th July, 2007 at 9:29 am  

      As a Hindu I thought his invocation was rubbish actually, is it a translation from Sanskrit ?…it might have been written by one of the script writers of The Simpsons, as were the ludicrous off-screen interjections…

      And “Rajan Zed” ??…is his surname SOOO unpronounceable that they have to cloak it ?…or is that because they don’t want negative repercussions from far-right extremists??…sad really…

      If your gonna do it…do it right…

      Those are my gut reactions…next time let’s hope they let a member of a Polynesian “Cargo Cult” to read the invocation - I know they don’t exist in the USA but so what…

    9. Clairwil — on 18th July, 2007 at 10:51 am  

      What an appalling display of bad manners.

    10. Sid — on 18th July, 2007 at 11:22 am  

      Yeah, the clerical geezer seemed to just talk over those poor hecklers! Outrageous.

    11. Twining — on 18th July, 2007 at 12:22 pm  

      All credit to the Priest. As for the hecklers. Dear Lord! More extremists? How dare they suggest we are from another planet and that our prayers are wicked? I actually thought it was quite “wicked” innit, you know, the way the actual Pandit coped. Well done dear Pandit.

    12. Billy — on 18th July, 2007 at 3:16 pm  

      On the same subject, Some of the comments on this article (as well as the article itself) scare me somewhat.

    13. Don — on 18th July, 2007 at 4:00 pm  

      Wierd comments indeed, many of them actually seem scared that god will come down and give them a kicking for dissing him.

    14. Sudip — on 18th July, 2007 at 4:46 pm  

      oh my polytheist god !!!! how stupid are the yanks, reading the comments from billy’s link, it would suggest america is now under attack and invasion…can someone please educate them before i do something hasty like give up macdonalds

    15. zucchini — on 18th July, 2007 at 4:57 pm  

      OH LARD !…it’s the Upani-SHARDS and Bhaga-VARD Gita !…

      The Christian Right is so monolithic it seems like some kinda multi-headed deity…can’t they think for themselves ??? (Lord no…)

    16. zucchini — on 18th July, 2007 at 5:01 pm  

      “Many many creators…” - like McDonalds, Disney, Microsoft, CNN ?…get real, you live in the USA and Communism is dead…

    17. Clairwil — on 18th July, 2007 at 6:40 pm  

      Christ those comments are terrifying. If an earthquake hits the USA in the next few days they’ll be unstoppable.

    18. Don — on 18th July, 2007 at 7:24 pm  

      Next time someone claims that Dawkins, Dennet, Harris or Hitchens is strident, fundamentalist or attacking a straw-god that no sophisticated theologian really believes in, bear this in mind. Psycho-god is still very much a major shareholder in the religion racket. Bugger the sophisticated theologians, what many people actually believe in, be they the Bishop of Carlisle or Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel, is a god who smites.

      To which the only reasonable response is, ‘Smite me’.

    19. Katy — on 18th July, 2007 at 8:17 pm  

      “The invocation of idolatrous gods is inherently offensive to members of the Judeo-Christian majority of the United States.”

      Hey! Don’t try and bring the Red Sea Pedestrians into your weirdfest, fucksocks!

    20. Soso — on 19th July, 2007 at 2:05 pm  

      These Christians were very rude. I’m a pracitsing Christian, and a rather conservative one at that, but I see nothing wrong with Hindus giving an opening prayer. Jeez, western civilisation has no probleme embracing Indo-Persian decimals and mathematics

      And to judge from Hindu accomplishments, their success in business, their contributions to my country, and their intellectual efferescence, I’d say they’re rather like the Jews…..only with lots of idols.

    21. Sudip — on 19th July, 2007 at 2:15 pm  

      no idol worshipping in hinduism soso

    22. Muhamad — on 19th July, 2007 at 6:38 pm  

      I think the Sanskrit that you are thinking of is the “Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, 1st adhyaya, 3rd Brahmana, 28th Mantra.”

      The verse goes like this:

      asatha ma sath gamaya
      tamasa ma jyathir gamaya
      mrithyar ma a-mrityam gamaya
      Aum shanthi
      Aum shanthi
      Aum shanthi

      :-) Not bad for an atheist Paki heh?

    23. bikhair — on 19th July, 2007 at 8:33 pm  


      Youre a Christian? : lol.

    24. zucchini — on 20th July, 2007 at 4:36 pm  

      Muhamad: Not bad, I’m impressed…but it sounds naff in English…

    25. macrinius — on 20th July, 2007 at 9:40 pm  

      keep all religions out of government.

    26. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 27th July, 2007 at 2:12 pm  

      I’m not really sure if this video justifies the title. No one is calling for anyones death, no one is waving around a gun, no one is being extreme just very very very rude and offensive. Therefore “Christain Idiots” (or stronger) would be more appropiate.

      Mind you that association gives idiots a bad name.


    27. Melissa — on 30th July, 2007 at 5:22 am  

      Actully I would think it is safe to say all activist are rude like this. Just use the left excuse of being rude during meetings “just practicing free speech”

      Also correct me if im wrong but from my understanding none of the chaplains are allowed to mention Jesus at the opening prayers. Which I find rude. Where is the christian guest speaker who can pray in Jesus name.

    28. Avi "Buffoon" Cohen — on 30th July, 2007 at 7:46 am  

      TFI - No Chrisitan Extremists just have access to drop massive bombs on people so they don’t need to waive guns.

      Of course they don’t call when anyones death when they speak of the time of armageddon and the war between good and evil. How they need to destroy all those Muslims or convert them. Nope they don’t do that.

      Of course Pastor John Haggee doesn’t deny that Palestinains ever existed and he doesn’t say they don’t have a homeland.

      They don’t have a president in the White House who believes in using force to achieve his will.

      So Christian Extremists are not a threat as Blair and Bush were cuddly toys. They didn’t send through all those cluster bombs to Israel which had a greater than 50% failure rate and now maime people, so that Israel could save money by not using it’s own more accurate bombs.

      No they are not a danger as there bully boys drop 200 hundred pound and 1 ton bombs instead of waving guns.

      They are of course not baing for an attack on Iran, they of course didn’t egg on a President for war in Iraq.

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