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  • More embarassment for Cameron over Southall


    by Sunny
    15th July, 2007 at 3:39 am    

    I was wondering why Labour’s campaign manager in the Ealing Southall by-election, Tom Watson, was sounding so chirpy on his blog. Now I know why.

    All over the Sunday papers today is the story that the Conservative candidate Tony Lit had donated money to Labour only a week before joining the former and posed in a picture with Tony Blair. The Observer has the full story. Tom Watson has the picture and cheque. It’s going to be a fun week until the election on Thursday.
    P.S. The Sunday Telegraph seems to think Lit’s dad is worth a billion. Heh.

    Update: More hilarity. I’m inclined to agree with Norfolk blogger that as Iain Dale is increasingly being used by CCHQ for their spin, his credibility is being eroded. Yesterday Iain said Tory top brass were planning to sue Libdems over their leaflet because it used unauthorised pictures of Tony Lit. Except that the Tories are not only doing the same in Ealing, but also in another by-election. Whoops.


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    1. Ministry of Truth » They call me Mr Pitiful…

      [...] separate legal identity and a £4,800 donation does not need shareholder approval. Anyone actually saying Tony Lit donated to Labour has probably committed a libel. I believe the Lit family is financially [...]




    1. Praguetory — on 15th July, 2007 at 5:38 am  

      Posting that cheque is the biggest risk of Tom Watson’s career. He’s just written a blank cheque.

    2. Praguetory — on 15th July, 2007 at 6:13 am  

      May I introduce you to the concept of a company having a separate legal identity? From a legal point of view, you may wish to amend the wording of your post. A friendly warning.

    3. MMs — on 15th July, 2007 at 10:53 am  

      A very interesting post, and of course two very interesting replies. I shall definitely keep this little piece of information in mind when voting.

    4. Unity — on 15th July, 2007 at 11:52 am  

      PT.

      May I introduce you to the concept of corporate responsibility under which all directors of a company are equally responsible (and liable) for the actions of the company.

      From a legal standpoint you’re talking absolute rubbish and making a complete arse of yourself as usual and may wish to shut up.

      Just a friendly warning.

    5. John — on 15th July, 2007 at 12:04 pm  

      The Times on 28th January 2007 interviewed Avtar Lit for an article entitled “Will the sons also rise” on “family owned or controlled businesses”, and described Sunrise Radio as a “family firm”. Whatever the legal structure, this is hardly the seperate entity suggested above by praguetory.

    6. Vladimir — on 15th July, 2007 at 12:08 pm  

      This by-election has to be one of the more entertaining ones we’ve had. It’s usually the case that I only realise that there was a by-election the day after the election when the results are in the papers.

      With all the hoo ha about candidate selection (labour and Tory) then the song and dance that came with defections and Tony Lit, it’s sure been fun. I am can only grateful to the Tory party for such entertainment!

    7. El Cid — on 15th July, 2007 at 12:29 pm  

      What a mercenary

    8. Praguetory — on 15th July, 2007 at 3:45 pm  

      I know of no business of the size of Sunset Radio where the MD would be aware of every four-figure sum transaction - that’s a fact. To equate a company’s spending on a dinner table with a director giving personal support to a political party is ridiculous - and if it was me I would be taking legal action against those levelling that charge.

    9. Robert — on 15th July, 2007 at 3:51 pm  

      Surely the problem here, PT, is a little more than the technicality over whether it was Lit, or his company, which donated to Labour. Rather, it is a charge of opportunism and hypocrisy. For Lit to say:

      Most people are glad Blair has gone. I was completely against the war in Iraq and to be honest it’s because of Tony Blair I decided to stand. He’s lost touch with what matters to local people

      … when we’ve seen him gurning with our erstwhile Prime Minister in the same week, looks a little odd to say the least.

    10. Robert — on 15th July, 2007 at 3:52 pm  

      Also odd are the “Vote Lit” banners that still persist over this blog. One of the foibles of internet advertising is that you can’t really pull the ad if your message is at odds with the editorial.

    11. El Cid — on 15th July, 2007 at 3:53 pm  

      maybe you should give the torygraph’s lawyers your unique insight:
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/15/nbrown215.xml

    12. Don — on 15th July, 2007 at 4:06 pm  

      PT,

      ‘I know of no business of the size of Sunset Radio where the MD would be aware of every four-figure sum transaction …’

      That makes sense if you are talking about photocopying or office humidifiers. But are you seriously suggesting that the MD was unaware of a political fundraiser at which he was present?

      ‘To equate a company’s spending on a dinner table with a director giving personal support to a political party is ridiculous…’

      The dinner was a political fundraiser. How is that not support?

      And by the way, alluding to lawyers and requiring that a blog change a post which displeases you is not ‘a friendly warning’. It’s a mealy-mouthed attempt at bullying.

    13. leon — on 15th July, 2007 at 4:07 pm  

      Also odd are the “Vote Lit” banners that still persist over this blog. One of the foibles of internet advertising is that you can’t really pull the ad if your message is at odds with the editorial.

      It does represent a rather amusing twist in the advertiser/client relationship. I wonder how many other people are wishing they could advertise a product and remain editorially in control?

      Anyway, back to the increasingly hilarious by election…am I alone in thinking the last few weeks would make a great tv show (think In The Thick Of It)?!

    14. Praguetory — on 15th July, 2007 at 4:17 pm  

      It’s not relevent whether the blog post displeases me (many do) this issue is that it repeats false allegations. I know what I would be doing in Tony Lit’s position.

    15. Sunny — on 15th July, 2007 at 4:49 pm  

      PT, if Tony Lit’s lawyers did indeed see a need to flex their muscles, they’d have more reason to go after the Telegraph, Observer, IoS and Sunday Times than our blog.

    16. Unity — on 15th July, 2007 at 4:52 pm  

      PT

      1. Stop whinging you complete embarrassment.

      2. What Lit knew or didn’t know about the cheque is irrelevant - as a director of Sunrise Radio he is still as responsible for the cheque as any other director.

    17. tyger — on 15th July, 2007 at 5:56 pm  

      Jesus H Christ, PragueTory.

      Everywhere I go today, I find you, making a twonk of yourself. Come on, dude, why are you defending someone who is clearly a slippery reptile?

      One minute he’s a Labour donor, the next he’s standing for the Tories. Stop making a pillock of yourself, and concentrate on the real question: why is this allegiance-switching pancake being allowed stand for your party?

      Now that’s a scandal.

    18. Praguetory — on 15th July, 2007 at 6:03 pm  

      Sunny - you might be right (although some of the articles I read made a clearer distinction of what they were alleging), but that’s no defence in the law. Like Tom Watson, you seem to have taken the view to publish and be damned. Your call.

    19. leon — on 15th July, 2007 at 6:17 pm  

      Everywhere I go today, I find you, making a twonk of yourself. Come on, dude, why are you defending someone who is clearly a slippery reptile?

      Heh.

    20. Sunny — on 15th July, 2007 at 6:44 pm  

      but that’s no defence in the law.

      PT - I expect the lawyers of those broadsheets have already given legal advice over the issue and have okayed it. You don’t have a leg to stand on mate, as Unity has pointed out too in detail.

    21. leon — on 15th July, 2007 at 8:34 pm  

      Further to this why in the world would their lawyers waste their time with us who have no money, assets etc when they could go after the newspapers!?

      PT’s problem is he really wants to be a Guido or even a Dizzy more than he wants to actually be a good blogger…

    22. tyger — on 15th July, 2007 at 9:43 pm  

      PT’s problem is he really wants to be a Guido or even a Dizzy more than he wants to actually be a good blogger… ~ leon

      Ouch!

    23. Nich Starling — on 15th July, 2007 at 9:56 pm  

      The level of Tory defence on this issue apperst obe in direct proportion to the embarrassment they are feeling. Grant Shapps appears to have the midas touch in reverse. Everything he touches in this campaign turns to Lit.

    24. PoliticalHackUK — on 16th July, 2007 at 12:35 am  

      Unity is quite right that as a director of Sunrise (he was certainly MD at the time the cheque was written and is still listed on some of their more obscure web pages as such), Tony Lit cannot disclaim knowledge. In any case, it was his FATHER who wrote the cheque, not some faceless corporate high-roller.

      PT - would you knowingly attend a Labour fundraiser - which it quite clearly was? Probably no more than I would attend a Tory event. And then there’s the embarrassing picture with Blair.

      And stop running about being the net police on this issue - you are looking like a fool.

    25. Bob Piper — on 16th July, 2007 at 12:47 am  

      ‘I know of no business of the size of Sunset Radio where the MD would be aware of every four-figure sum transaction …’

      Errrm, it now appears that Comrade Lit, as he then was, actually handed over the cheque. Still, you can’t expect every MD of a business this size to be aware that a cheque made out to the Labour Party is actually a political donation… unless they are as thick as a brick, that is.

    26. Rumbold — on 16th July, 2007 at 9:09 am  

      WORLD EXCLUSIVE:

      A Sikh politician from Southall who was a member of the Labour Party last month is still a member. Mr. Singh, 57, allegedly defended his controversal decision not to defect to the Tories.

      However, we must remind our readers that this rumour is as yet unconfirmed.

      Sunny Hundal was asked for his opinion on the matter:

      “It is a clear blow for the Labour Party”, said Sunny, “as their plan to get all their councillors to leave has now been derailed.”

    27. Leon — on 16th July, 2007 at 10:18 am  

      Oh I get it, that was an attempt at ‘humour’…

    28. Harry — on 16th July, 2007 at 10:49 am  

      SO i go down southall on sunday, Stuck in traffic I have to crawl past 4 vote for lit speaker infested micras, wanting me to puke on this guy, and then out of nowhere the litt roller materialises with my target in the back, i tried so hard but couldn’t summon up the goods, dam. This guy is seriously not going to do anything for the people it’s all about grabbing more money for his daddy and his mates…as someone mentioned elsewhere is tony lit the new cockney slang for pony shit? hehe.

    29. Jagdeep — on 16th July, 2007 at 6:15 pm  

      Tony Lit — what a megalomaniac opportunistic chancer, dancing to his daddy’s tune.

      Sunrise Radio is crap too.

    30. sandeep_x — on 16th July, 2007 at 7:21 pm  

      The smear campaign against Sharma has started….

      Apparently he is anti-Sikh and a member of the right wing Hindu party the RSS.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdufptbE9f8

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietfdDRT1rQ

    31. Jagdeep — on 16th July, 2007 at 7:38 pm  

      Oh crikey sandeep that’s really going to make a difference eh? Wont matter. Youtube is the summit of these gnats achievments forever.

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