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		<title>By: Clairwil</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72258</link>
		<dc:creator>Clairwil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the reason that in depth articles about each world religion&#039;s problems are posted here is that this is a news and current affairs blog not one devoted to religious news. If you feel so strongly that thse issues should be covered why not contribute a guest article or better still start your own blog doing just that. Muslim extremeists as distinct from all Muslims are news. I accept that much of the msm, paticularly the tabloids don&#039;t cover it in in this way, however the odd troll aside I don&#039;t regard anything written here as being particularly offensive, prejudiced or Islamaphobic. 

That explains the coverage. No conspiracy, no Islamophobia, no secret agenda. Sorry to disappoint.

Just a thought but if you dropped the hysterical tone you might find more of us here willing to debate with you. 

You may accuse me of owning Fox news now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the reason that in depth articles about each world religion&#8217;s problems are posted here is that this is a news and current affairs blog not one devoted to religious news. If you feel so strongly that thse issues should be covered why not contribute a guest article or better still start your own blog doing just that. Muslim extremeists as distinct from all Muslims are news. I accept that much of the msm, paticularly the tabloids don&#8217;t cover it in in this way, however the odd troll aside I don&#8217;t regard anything written here as being particularly offensive, prejudiced or Islamaphobic. </p>
<p>That explains the coverage. No conspiracy, no Islamophobia, no secret agenda. Sorry to disappoint.</p>
<p>Just a thought but if you dropped the hysterical tone you might find more of us here willing to debate with you. </p>
<p>You may accuse me of owning Fox news now.</p>
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		<title>By: Clairwil</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72257</link>
		<dc:creator>Clairwil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the reason that in depth articles about each world religion&#039;s problems are posted here is that this is a news and current affairs blog not one devoted to religious news. If you feel so strongly that thse issues should be covered why not contribute a guest article or better still start your own blog doing just that. Muslim extremeists as distinct from all Muslims are news. I accept that much of the msm, paticularly the tabloids don&#039;t cover it in in this way, however the odd troll aside I don&#039;t regard anything written here as being particularly offensive, prejudiced or Islamaphobic. 

That explains the coverage. No conspiracy, no Islamophobia, no secret agenda. Sorry to disappoint.

Just a thought but if you dropped the hysterical tone you might find more of us here willing to debate with you. 

Ypu may accuse me of owning Fox news now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the reason that in depth articles about each world religion&#8217;s problems are posted here is that this is a news and current affairs blog not one devoted to religious news. If you feel so strongly that thse issues should be covered why not contribute a guest article or better still start your own blog doing just that. Muslim extremeists as distinct from all Muslims are news. I accept that much of the msm, paticularly the tabloids don&#8217;t cover it in in this way, however the odd troll aside I don&#8217;t regard anything written here as being particularly offensive, prejudiced or Islamaphobic. </p>
<p>That explains the coverage. No conspiracy, no Islamophobia, no secret agenda. Sorry to disappoint.</p>
<p>Just a thought but if you dropped the hysterical tone you might find more of us here willing to debate with you. </p>
<p>Ypu may accuse me of owning Fox news now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72252</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew it ! Jagdeep is actually Hardeep Singh Kohli !

All this time we thought he was just an anonymous regular commenter on PP, and yet there he was on television all along, in his pink turban, kilt and suspicious-looking sporran.....

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you are Hindu your wife has more to fear from you dying as she would get thrown on the funeral pyre so how about some comment on that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, because that happens all the time in the lawless Hindu frontier that is Leicester and Wembley.

&lt;blockquote&gt;women having to marry trees to lose their bad luck&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Even as we speak, hordes of wayward Gujarati girls can be found shackled to tree-trunks in Epping Forest.....


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On a more serious note, Sunny does actually blog about &quot;extreme&quot;/irrational cultural and religious practices back in the subcontinent on a fairly regular basis (irrespective of the religion concerned), as regular commenters know and as a trawl through the archives would confirm.

However, people are generally more concerned with matters involving the Asian community here in Britain. But negative practices in this country are regularly blogged about too, including (indeed, especially) the issue of women&#039;s rights across ALL Asian communities.

As Jagdeep has stated, the reason Muslim issues appear to be written about more than others on PP is because, in Britain, there are currently more problems amongst the Muslim community than in other Asian groups -- at least with regards to issues that affect the rest of the British population (support for terrorism and extremism amongst some British Muslims being the main one). Many commenters on PP don&#039;t exactly enjoy criticising Muslims, and the apparent over-representation of Muslim-orientated topics here has been mentioned a number of times in the past by regulars, but this is a sign of the times we are currently living in. Unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew it ! Jagdeep is actually Hardeep Singh Kohli !</p>
<p>All this time we thought he was just an anonymous regular commenter on PP, and yet there he was on television all along, in his pink turban, kilt and suspicious-looking sporran&#8230;..</p>
<blockquote><p>If you are Hindu your wife has more to fear from you dying as she would get thrown on the funeral pyre so how about some comment on that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, because that happens all the time in the lawless Hindu frontier that is Leicester and Wembley.</p>
<blockquote><p>women having to marry trees to lose their bad luck</p></blockquote>
<p>Even as we speak, hordes of wayward Gujarati girls can be found shackled to tree-trunks in Epping Forest&#8230;..</p>
<p>*****************</p>
<p>On a more serious note, Sunny does actually blog about &#8220;extreme&#8221;/irrational cultural and religious practices back in the subcontinent on a fairly regular basis (irrespective of the religion concerned), as regular commenters know and as a trawl through the archives would confirm.</p>
<p>However, people are generally more concerned with matters involving the Asian community here in Britain. But negative practices in this country are regularly blogged about too, including (indeed, especially) the issue of women&#8217;s rights across ALL Asian communities.</p>
<p>As Jagdeep has stated, the reason Muslim issues appear to be written about more than others on PP is because, in Britain, there are currently more problems amongst the Muslim community than in other Asian groups &#8212; at least with regards to issues that affect the rest of the British population (support for terrorism and extremism amongst some British Muslims being the main one). Many commenters on PP don&#8217;t exactly enjoy criticising Muslims, and the apparent over-representation of Muslim-orientated topics here has been mentioned a number of times in the past by regulars, but this is a sign of the times we are currently living in. Unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72249</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Drugs, gangs etc are a bigger problem for the Asian community and statistically you stand more chance of being killed in a drug war or gang feud than terrorism but you wonâ€™t address that - no. Youâ€™ll only focus on terrorism as that brings quick headlines.&quot;

This means that innocent people like you getting caught in the crossfire in a drug or gang feud in an Asian area in say London, Manchester etc.

I thought I would state this crearly before someone jumped in with another wild accusation.

Anyway I am back to just reading and no commenting for a while. I think here you like people to listen and not be heard unless it is to agree. Stating opinion merely brings wild accusations of wanting to change editorial policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Drugs, gangs etc are a bigger problem for the Asian community and statistically you stand more chance of being killed in a drug war or gang feud than terrorism but you wonâ€™t address that &#8211; no. Youâ€™ll only focus on terrorism as that brings quick headlines.&#8221;</p>
<p>This means that innocent people like you getting caught in the crossfire in a drug or gang feud in an Asian area in say London, Manchester etc.</p>
<p>I thought I would state this crearly before someone jumped in with another wild accusation.</p>
<p>Anyway I am back to just reading and no commenting for a while. I think here you like people to listen and not be heard unless it is to agree. Stating opinion merely brings wild accusations of wanting to change editorial policy.</p>
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		<title>By: zucchini</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72248</link>
		<dc:creator>zucchini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...looking at a recent item in a Sunday supplement about the Bin laden family, it seems clear that young Osama came from a very wealthy family - so wealthy that he seems to have been stuck for what to do with himself as an adult - rather like members of the British Royal family or aristocracy (many of whom were drawn to support fascism before the war)..

Why droves of Muslims support Bin Laden &amp; his &quot;cause&quot; is a mystery to me - he is stinking rich, idle rich in fact, so his only outlet is to be a mischief maker and hide his mischief within a cloak of fundamentalist twaddle - meanhwile the real victims of his mischief are the poor, or the middle classes or just plain ordinary folk going about their business...

Osamas&#039; psychological make up is that he desperately wants to be seen as being useful and important whereas he is&#039;nt in reality (well, as important as any of us..)and probably may never be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;looking at a recent item in a Sunday supplement about the Bin laden family, it seems clear that young Osama came from a very wealthy family &#8211; so wealthy that he seems to have been stuck for what to do with himself as an adult &#8211; rather like members of the British Royal family or aristocracy (many of whom were drawn to support fascism before the war)..</p>
<p>Why droves of Muslims support Bin Laden &amp; his &#8220;cause&#8221; is a mystery to me &#8211; he is stinking rich, idle rich in fact, so his only outlet is to be a mischief maker and hide his mischief within a cloak of fundamentalist twaddle &#8211; meanhwile the real victims of his mischief are the poor, or the middle classes or just plain ordinary folk going about their business&#8230;</p>
<p>Osamas&#8217; psychological make up is that he desperately wants to be seen as being useful and important whereas he is&#8217;nt in reality (well, as important as any of us..)and probably may never be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72247</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition the Muslim Community has called for cooperation with the Police in dealing with the terrorism problem. To the extent that if people know anythign they should alert the authorities. Even scholars in the Middle Eats and Saudi Arabia have stated it is a religious obligation to tell the Police.

Kindly show me what the Hindu community has done? Ah yes they instead arrange meetings for people with these dodgy connections with leading politicians and say thye are a religion of peace and hurt no one. So where is your stand on that?

Drugs, gangs etc are a bigger problem for the Asian community and statistically you stand more chance of being killed in a drug war or gang feud than terrorism but you won&#039;t address that - no. You&#039;ll only focus on terrorism as that brings quick headlines.

Sorry people won&#039;t be bullied to listen just to you as they will speak out against what you say if it is wrong. As long as one presents ones arguments well then  the moderators shouldn&#039;t allow you to throw wild accusations implying people say you work for Mossad to divert attention from your bullying.

The site says it is to discuss politics with an asian tinge and baseless slurs from editorial writers shouldn&#039;t be permitted. So kindly show where it was clearly said you worked for Mossad or kindly apologise for making such a statement. If you cannot bring yourself to apologise then Sunny should consider your position for inaccurate editorial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition the Muslim Community has called for cooperation with the Police in dealing with the terrorism problem. To the extent that if people know anythign they should alert the authorities. Even scholars in the Middle Eats and Saudi Arabia have stated it is a religious obligation to tell the Police.</p>
<p>Kindly show me what the Hindu community has done? Ah yes they instead arrange meetings for people with these dodgy connections with leading politicians and say thye are a religion of peace and hurt no one. So where is your stand on that?</p>
<p>Drugs, gangs etc are a bigger problem for the Asian community and statistically you stand more chance of being killed in a drug war or gang feud than terrorism but you won&#8217;t address that &#8211; no. You&#8217;ll only focus on terrorism as that brings quick headlines.</p>
<p>Sorry people won&#8217;t be bullied to listen just to you as they will speak out against what you say if it is wrong. As long as one presents ones arguments well then  the moderators shouldn&#8217;t allow you to throw wild accusations implying people say you work for Mossad to divert attention from your bullying.</p>
<p>The site says it is to discuss politics with an asian tinge and baseless slurs from editorial writers shouldn&#8217;t be permitted. So kindly show where it was clearly said you worked for Mossad or kindly apologise for making such a statement. If you cannot bring yourself to apologise then Sunny should consider your position for inaccurate editorial.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72246</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW Jagdeep,

If you are Hindu your wife has more to fear from you dying as she would get thrown on the funeral pyre so how about some comment on that.

Also across the world other religious fundementalism affects people, for example in the Balkans and Chechyna the Christians are abusign and terrorising Muslims. In Kashmir your peaceful Hindu and Sikh brethren are doing the same. Wonderful thing democracy when it allows you to bully people. As I recall India was supposed to allow the locals to vote as part of it joinging the UN. So how about putting your own house in order. Those people don&#039;t want to be part of your country, but due to alliances with the Brits they are forced to.

The Hindu world is in denial to the point they say that the Taj Mahal is a Hindu building. They rewrite history and all that does not ellicit comemtn from you. You&#039;&#039; claim it doesn&#039;t affect you. But such tyranny affects millions of people everyday both Hindu and Muslim.

Christianity has wrought more devestation and destruction that all other religions combined. Entire continents have been wracked but that doesn&#039;t ellicit much comment from you.

Yes there is a problem for the Muslims but your poor research, wild accusations and inaccurate assertions merely play to the media audience who you desperatly hope will notice you as they did Sunny to adavance your own standing.

Despite your assertion, and as the media reported, over 600 of the world&#039;s leading Muslim scholars said that suicide bombing and terrorism had no place in Islam. Over a decade ago the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia wrote an open letter warning of the evils and impermissibility of Bin Laden&#039;s approach and how countries needed to deal with this problem. So your wild lies that Muslims are in denial are not borne out by facts. Instead your smear campaign merely divides instead of buidling relations.

People face persecution from all sorts of people across the world. Simplifying the issue to demonise isn&#039;t productive.

When people argue back your approach is that you can say what you like, that is fair enough but people have a right to respond. So alongside your call to Muslims to clean up their act what are you doing in your own community to clean up terrorism, calling for women&#039;s rights etc.

At least Muslims are strating to speak out whilst your own community is in denial and simply acting like a big bully here and in India. Some example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Jagdeep,</p>
<p>If you are Hindu your wife has more to fear from you dying as she would get thrown on the funeral pyre so how about some comment on that.</p>
<p>Also across the world other religious fundementalism affects people, for example in the Balkans and Chechyna the Christians are abusign and terrorising Muslims. In Kashmir your peaceful Hindu and Sikh brethren are doing the same. Wonderful thing democracy when it allows you to bully people. As I recall India was supposed to allow the locals to vote as part of it joinging the UN. So how about putting your own house in order. Those people don&#8217;t want to be part of your country, but due to alliances with the Brits they are forced to.</p>
<p>The Hindu world is in denial to the point they say that the Taj Mahal is a Hindu building. They rewrite history and all that does not ellicit comemtn from you. You&#8221; claim it doesn&#8217;t affect you. But such tyranny affects millions of people everyday both Hindu and Muslim.</p>
<p>Christianity has wrought more devestation and destruction that all other religions combined. Entire continents have been wracked but that doesn&#8217;t ellicit much comment from you.</p>
<p>Yes there is a problem for the Muslims but your poor research, wild accusations and inaccurate assertions merely play to the media audience who you desperatly hope will notice you as they did Sunny to adavance your own standing.</p>
<p>Despite your assertion, and as the media reported, over 600 of the world&#8217;s leading Muslim scholars said that suicide bombing and terrorism had no place in Islam. Over a decade ago the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia wrote an open letter warning of the evils and impermissibility of Bin Laden&#8217;s approach and how countries needed to deal with this problem. So your wild lies that Muslims are in denial are not borne out by facts. Instead your smear campaign merely divides instead of buidling relations.</p>
<p>People face persecution from all sorts of people across the world. Simplifying the issue to demonise isn&#8217;t productive.</p>
<p>When people argue back your approach is that you can say what you like, that is fair enough but people have a right to respond. So alongside your call to Muslims to clean up their act what are you doing in your own community to clean up terrorism, calling for women&#8217;s rights etc.</p>
<p>At least Muslims are strating to speak out whilst your own community is in denial and simply acting like a big bully here and in India. Some example.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72234</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jagdeep slowly brings forth the truth of the type of views expressed here. Ok so the Muslim community is in denial. How much different is that from other religions such as Hindu&#039;s where terrorism is also rife and people are being kiled. Where women have little if any rights. Where the caste system shackles people. Where religious bigotory means that you get elected leader of India, and are able to destroy places of worship without fear of condemnation. Where a judiciary is afraid to rule because of the hysteria whipped up. Yes and then you too can say another faiths leadership is in denial.

A feeling of superiority is wonderful to allow you to look down upon others.

I suggest you tackle the deep seated problems of untouchables in your own community, the deeply rooted caste system, women having to marry trees to lose their  bad luck and other such extremism which affects millions of peope from going about their daily lives.

How lovely for you that you are able to blame Muslims for everything.

If anyone disagrees with you hurl wild accusations in the hope that people will ignore what they say and listen to you.

The same hysteria and mentality that was in force during the 1930&#039;s in Nazi Germany and now here with a new bogeyman - yes the Muslims replace the Jews and if someone replies then accuse them of sayign you are part of Mossad.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Pickled Politics and then your fans get upset if I say this is a neo-con site. What is the difference between this and Fox News?

Bill O&#039;Reilly would love this place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jagdeep slowly brings forth the truth of the type of views expressed here. Ok so the Muslim community is in denial. How much different is that from other religions such as Hindu&#8217;s where terrorism is also rife and people are being kiled. Where women have little if any rights. Where the caste system shackles people. Where religious bigotory means that you get elected leader of India, and are able to destroy places of worship without fear of condemnation. Where a judiciary is afraid to rule because of the hysteria whipped up. Yes and then you too can say another faiths leadership is in denial.</p>
<p>A feeling of superiority is wonderful to allow you to look down upon others.</p>
<p>I suggest you tackle the deep seated problems of untouchables in your own community, the deeply rooted caste system, women having to marry trees to lose their  bad luck and other such extremism which affects millions of peope from going about their daily lives.</p>
<p>How lovely for you that you are able to blame Muslims for everything.</p>
<p>If anyone disagrees with you hurl wild accusations in the hope that people will ignore what they say and listen to you.</p>
<p>The same hysteria and mentality that was in force during the 1930&#8242;s in Nazi Germany and now here with a new bogeyman &#8211; yes the Muslims replace the Jews and if someone replies then accuse them of sayign you are part of Mossad.</p>
<p>Welcome to the wonderful world of Pickled Politics and then your fans get upset if I say this is a neo-con site. What is the difference between this and Fox News?</p>
<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly would love this place.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Harpin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72227</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Harpin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They control the global capitalist banking system and media too so they can afford me.&quot;

Again for a clever writer like you I would have thought you&#039;d come up with some other line rather than trying to go down this same old tired line, but I guess the old lines are the best!!

Building a career by writing on blogs liek this means that you hope to get noticed by the mainstream media and write there. I didn&#039;t say anythign of this but again in order to build legitimacy for your arguments you have to portray anyone that disagrees with you in some negative way, I suppose trying anti-seimitsm brings you sympathy. I never said this and you know that.

Yawn! Oh look Sunny he is arguing with me what shall I do, shall I try the old he says I work for Mossad rountine! Try not to copy Irshad Manji ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They control the global capitalist banking system and media too so they can afford me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again for a clever writer like you I would have thought you&#8217;d come up with some other line rather than trying to go down this same old tired line, but I guess the old lines are the best!!</p>
<p>Building a career by writing on blogs liek this means that you hope to get noticed by the mainstream media and write there. I didn&#8217;t say anythign of this but again in order to build legitimacy for your arguments you have to portray anyone that disagrees with you in some negative way, I suppose trying anti-seimitsm brings you sympathy. I never said this and you know that.</p>
<p>Yawn! Oh look Sunny he is arguing with me what shall I do, shall I try the old he says I work for Mossad rountine! Try not to copy Irshad Manji <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carl Harpin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72226</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Harpin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slowly your hatred and enmity towards Muslims is creeping out. Hindu&#039;s and Skikh&#039;s have enough extremeist problems of their own. But by narrowing things down you can point your finger at Muslims, which is what you want to do.

We&#039;ve all seen Hindu extremism in India and how that affects people&#039;s lives. Hardly a model of peace! The BJP get elected on a platform of hate and their ministers are openly welcome here. Where is your frequent commentary on that?

The Muslim community leadership is mainly self-appointed and whilst some may be in denial it is no different to any other community and how they deal with extremists. Is the Hindu, Sikh or Jewish community any different?

You see the Chief Rabbi for example share a platform with right wing politicians and when was the last time he was critical of right wingers in his religion? Same with Hindus. Sikhs too have had their own terrorism in th West.

&quot;Your victimhood hysteria and self pity is so tiresome.&quot;
Your constant theme of Muslims to blame is just as tiresome. Your own self pity and pretence to whip up hysteria under a guise of new thinking is similarly victimhood hysteria.

Your lack of knowledge of the community about which you write is clear for all to see and it is easy enough bringing up the same lines and blaming the same people over and again.

Again if you did your research you would know that the Muslim community worldwide has been condemining and that this type of ideology was whipped up inAfghanistan not only by Muslims but by the West. Then these same people were freedom fighters as was Saddam Hussein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slowly your hatred and enmity towards Muslims is creeping out. Hindu&#8217;s and Skikh&#8217;s have enough extremeist problems of their own. But by narrowing things down you can point your finger at Muslims, which is what you want to do.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all seen Hindu extremism in India and how that affects people&#8217;s lives. Hardly a model of peace! The BJP get elected on a platform of hate and their ministers are openly welcome here. Where is your frequent commentary on that?</p>
<p>The Muslim community leadership is mainly self-appointed and whilst some may be in denial it is no different to any other community and how they deal with extremists. Is the Hindu, Sikh or Jewish community any different?</p>
<p>You see the Chief Rabbi for example share a platform with right wing politicians and when was the last time he was critical of right wingers in his religion? Same with Hindus. Sikhs too have had their own terrorism in th West.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your victimhood hysteria and self pity is so tiresome.&#8221;<br />
Your constant theme of Muslims to blame is just as tiresome. Your own self pity and pretence to whip up hysteria under a guise of new thinking is similarly victimhood hysteria.</p>
<p>Your lack of knowledge of the community about which you write is clear for all to see and it is easy enough bringing up the same lines and blaming the same people over and again.</p>
<p>Again if you did your research you would know that the Muslim community worldwide has been condemining and that this type of ideology was whipped up inAfghanistan not only by Muslims but by the West. Then these same people were freedom fighters as was Saddam Hussein.</p>
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		<title>By: Clairwil</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72218</link>
		<dc:creator>Clairwil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are getting paid here! I&#039;m off for a word with Sunny.</description>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72217</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I get on the payroll? Is it like being a sperm donor?
I&#039;m on a fixed rate mortgage but every little bit helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I get on the payroll? Is it like being a sperm donor?<br />
I&#8217;m on a fixed rate mortgage but every little bit helps</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72216</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl,

You&#039;ve started saying &#039;What a joke&#039; again. I&#039;m not saying you shouldn&#039;t, but try cutting down. 

Nothing after those three words made very much sense, unless Jagdeep really is a sinister eminece grise of the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve started saying &#8216;What a joke&#8217; again. I&#8217;m not saying you shouldn&#8217;t, but try cutting down. </p>
<p>Nothing after those three words made very much sense, unless Jagdeep really is a sinister eminece grise of the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72215</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone else pays peanuts in comparison Rumbold.

They control the global capitalist banking system and media too so they can afford me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone else pays peanuts in comparison Rumbold.</p>
<p>They control the global capitalist banking system and media too so they can afford me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72214</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mossad? I thought that you were CIA/MI6. I owe Carl a fiver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mossad? I thought that you were CIA/MI6. I owe Carl a fiver.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72213</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enough to pay the bills Rumbold. Mossad pay well these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough to pay the bills Rumbold. Mossad pay well these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72211</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Just want to make it clear; I am not a team player, and I have work evaluations to prove it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good one.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Youâ€™ve [Jagdeep] made a career out of discussing this and now you claim there was a fear.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have you really made a career out of this Jagdeep? Does it pay well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Just want to make it clear; I am not a team player, and I have work evaluations to prove it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Good one.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Youâ€™ve [Jagdeep] made a career out of discussing this and now you claim there was a fear.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Have you really made a career out of this Jagdeep? Does it pay well?</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72209</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all Carl Harpin I&#039;m not an editor here nor am I involved in any way other than as a commenter.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Stop pretending like it isnâ€™t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nobody is pretending otherwise. Muslim extremists are blowing up people in this country. Nobody else is. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Muslims live in fear of extremism whipped up by conservatives but that doesnâ€™t worry you. Fear of the BNP and neo-conservative movements.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sikhs and Hindus live in fear of being blown up and murdered by Muslims, then reaping a racist backlash whipped up in response to that, and caused partially by Muslim &#039;leaders&#039; being in denial and not taking the cancer of extremism seriously enough, shifting the blame, using it to leverage their own ideology. We cover that lots too. We all live in fear of that.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And stop your bellyaching.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would be you, in all of your posts, under a variety of aliases.

Your victimhood hysteria and self pity is so tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Carl Harpin I&#8217;m not an editor here nor am I involved in any way other than as a commenter.</p>
<blockquote><p>Stop pretending like it isnâ€™t.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nobody is pretending otherwise. Muslim extremists are blowing up people in this country. Nobody else is. </p>
<blockquote><p>Muslims live in fear of extremism whipped up by conservatives but that doesnâ€™t worry you. Fear of the BNP and neo-conservative movements.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sikhs and Hindus live in fear of being blown up and murdered by Muslims, then reaping a racist backlash whipped up in response to that, and caused partially by Muslim &#8216;leaders&#8217; being in denial and not taking the cancer of extremism seriously enough, shifting the blame, using it to leverage their own ideology. We cover that lots too. We all live in fear of that.</p>
<blockquote><p>And stop your bellyaching.</p></blockquote>
<p>That would be you, in all of your posts, under a variety of aliases.</p>
<p>Your victimhood hysteria and self pity is so tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Harpin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72208</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Harpin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jagdeep,

What a joke - fear of discussing, so when was that? You&#039;ve made a career out of discussing this and now you claim there was a fear. What nonsense.

People have discussed for years and there is no fear which is why the conservatives and subsequently the neo-cons whipped this up. It was used to justify an illegal war.

Muslims live in fear of extremism whipped up by conservatives but that doesn&#039;t worry you. Fear of the BNP and neo-conservative movements.

There is no denial and never has been. If you actually bothered to do your research then you would know that eminant Muslim scholars have denounced this. If you looked on the CIA website they have information about this. The methodology came from the west and was further whipped up in Afghanistan but now it is a Muslim problem because that is the easiest target.

Simply put your exposure in the media depends on your writing and the portrayal you give which feeds the media and your own exposure and hence you like to portray this as &quot;oooh somethign that cannot be discussed.&quot;

So quit trying to portray this as something you are worried about, it isn&#039;t it is simply to get your pieces in the media such as the BBC, CiF etc.

There is extremism in all circles, yet you focus on one because it feeds your exposure.

Stop pretending like it isn&#039;t. And stop your bellyaching.

The MCB and Board of Deputies and the Christian Alliance and so forth each have an agenda and each protect their turf. You tolerate some and not others.

I didn&#039;t offer editorial advice as dictators like you won&#039;t take it, I simply gave my opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jagdeep,</p>
<p>What a joke &#8211; fear of discussing, so when was that? You&#8217;ve made a career out of discussing this and now you claim there was a fear. What nonsense.</p>
<p>People have discussed for years and there is no fear which is why the conservatives and subsequently the neo-cons whipped this up. It was used to justify an illegal war.</p>
<p>Muslims live in fear of extremism whipped up by conservatives but that doesn&#8217;t worry you. Fear of the BNP and neo-conservative movements.</p>
<p>There is no denial and never has been. If you actually bothered to do your research then you would know that eminant Muslim scholars have denounced this. If you looked on the CIA website they have information about this. The methodology came from the west and was further whipped up in Afghanistan but now it is a Muslim problem because that is the easiest target.</p>
<p>Simply put your exposure in the media depends on your writing and the portrayal you give which feeds the media and your own exposure and hence you like to portray this as &#8220;oooh somethign that cannot be discussed.&#8221;</p>
<p>So quit trying to portray this as something you are worried about, it isn&#8217;t it is simply to get your pieces in the media such as the BBC, CiF etc.</p>
<p>There is extremism in all circles, yet you focus on one because it feeds your exposure.</p>
<p>Stop pretending like it isn&#8217;t. And stop your bellyaching.</p>
<p>The MCB and Board of Deputies and the Christian Alliance and so forth each have an agenda and each protect their turf. You tolerate some and not others.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t offer editorial advice as dictators like you won&#8217;t take it, I simply gave my opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1240#comment-72202</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look Carl Harpin.

There&#039;s a big problem with Muslim extremism in this country, and it presents a great challenge not only to the lives of all of us, but relations between all the races of all of us in this multicultural society. 

Trust is breaking down, and many Muslims are still in denial about the crisis facing them. Hence more stories about Muslims. Nobody&#039;s denying that. In fact its important, because Muslim issues are more intractable and urgent than anything else, and the primary need of the moment is to slap people out of their denial about what is going on. 

The moderators of this blog do what they like and focus on a wide range of issues. They definitely dont need editorial advice from you. The thing works. It&#039;s a good, popular and vibrant place. And the reason for the ubiquity of Muslim issues here as elsewhere in society and the media is because of the ubiquity of Muslim problems.

For quite a few years people were too afraid to even discuss these openly for fear of offending the likes of you. Quite frankly, I&#039;ve had enough of all that, because when it comes to Jihad and the denial of all that crap by some people, it affects me, my family, my children, my friends. I&#039;m sick of it all and want these things addressed and people to be slapped awake. 

In short, quit whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look Carl Harpin.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a big problem with Muslim extremism in this country, and it presents a great challenge not only to the lives of all of us, but relations between all the races of all of us in this multicultural society. </p>
<p>Trust is breaking down, and many Muslims are still in denial about the crisis facing them. Hence more stories about Muslims. Nobody&#8217;s denying that. In fact its important, because Muslim issues are more intractable and urgent than anything else, and the primary need of the moment is to slap people out of their denial about what is going on. </p>
<p>The moderators of this blog do what they like and focus on a wide range of issues. They definitely dont need editorial advice from you. The thing works. It&#8217;s a good, popular and vibrant place. And the reason for the ubiquity of Muslim issues here as elsewhere in society and the media is because of the ubiquity of Muslim problems.</p>
<p>For quite a few years people were too afraid to even discuss these openly for fear of offending the likes of you. Quite frankly, I&#8217;ve had enough of all that, because when it comes to Jihad and the denial of all that crap by some people, it affects me, my family, my children, my friends. I&#8217;m sick of it all and want these things addressed and people to be slapped awake. </p>
<p>In short, quit whining.</p>
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