EDL’s Guramit Singh will not be charged


by Rumbold
11th March, 2011 at 9:35 pm    

Varinder Singh of the ‘Sikhs against the EDL’ campaign has alerted me to the fact that Guramit Singh (sometimes called Amit Singh) will not be charged over anti-Muslim comments made in a December speech. Guramit Singh is the EDL’s most high profile minority figure. A reminder of what he said in that speech:

I’m going to tell you precisely right now what threat of Islam is. Muhammad and Islam is not a religion… Muhammad was a paedophilic pirate… Islam, in not just this country but around the world, has been using their disgusting threat, their threat has been going on for 1400 years, “if you do not bow before Muhammad and his so-called Allah, you are to be beheaded”… Hitler had fuck all on Muhammad.

The Koran and the Hadiths is written in Arabic. Muslims are not allowed to be taught Arabic in the mosque. Muslims are told, “do not question what your Imam says, although they don’t even know what the Imam’s saying, because the Imam’s just a “Allah, fuck it”. Stick your Allah up your arse, you cunt. Fuck em, fuck em, fuck em. I’m not being funny, fuck em. I may get arrested for this shit, but fuck em, fuck em, I’m not having it, fuck em, fuck em, fuck em, fuck em.

The ‘Sikhs against the EDL’ campaign was disappointed that Guramit Singh was not charged. As Varinder Singh put it:

It’s a real shame that an individual like Guramit Singh can get away with saying just about anything and bringing our community into disrepute. At the Luton demonstration against the EDL there was a very strong message sent from the Sikh community that he (Guramit Singh) is an embarrassment and should be locked up.

Whilst I support this campaign, as it is good to see Sikhs and Hindus standing up to the EDL, I am glad that Guramit Singh was not charged. Like Sunny, I take a robust view on free speech and protest, and I don’t see saying nasty things about a book or a group as worthy of prosecution. More than this, it would only turn Guramit Singh into a martyr, giving him a sanctity that his hate-filled bigotry does not deserve.


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  1. joe90 — on 11th March, 2011 at 10:58 pm  

    so singh insulting of islam in the most vile form is freedom of speech ok.

    so why the outcry and a petty fine to boot when another dimwit burned a plastic poppy.

    this double standards is a disgrace.

  2. KJB — on 12th March, 2011 at 12:17 am  

    I have to say, it sounds like this moron could have done with an order to do some community service. Could he try any harder to shriek ‘Look at me?’ His idiotic comments quoted above are becoming completely incoherent, I mean:

    The Koran and the Hadiths is written in Arabic. Muslims are not allowed to be taught Arabic in the mosque.

    Erm, OK… so?

    Then it just degenerates into swearing.

    joe90 – not too sure what the double standards are here. Sunny covered the poppy burning as a part of free speech, but the conviction was under Section 5 of the Public Order Act for, effectively breaching the peace. Which is what the prick in question was doing with his stunt – Guramit Singh might have received the same, or a similar, conviction, had he made his speech in a locale and a time where it would cause maximum offence, as Emdadur did.

    Incidentally, I really hope that his benefits have been revoked. Anjem Choudary is clearly doing well from his media fame – he can pay for him. Spending all your time as a hate-filled cretin can’t be that expensive.

  3. damon — on 12th March, 2011 at 2:43 am  

    Did you understand that explaination from KJB Joe90?
    It’s not just what you say, but where and who you say it to.
    The EDL pillock was saying it to EDL supporters.

  4. douglas clark — on 12th March, 2011 at 2:50 am  

    Joe 90,

    What KJB and damon have to say.

    Grow up.

  5. Sarah AB — on 12th March, 2011 at 9:07 am  

    Good post – and thanks, KJB, for the useful clarification.

  6. jamal — on 13th March, 2011 at 4:22 pm  

    the law is an ass they both did something which people found a disgrace.

    The edl and poppy burner should be punished, it just smacks of double standards if one is let off and other is punished.

  7. joe90 — on 13th March, 2011 at 11:44 pm  

    post #4

    that’s hilarious a lecture from someone who has a habit of making sexist remarks to women.

  8. douglas clark — on 14th March, 2011 at 12:12 am  

    joe90 @ 7,

    Withdraw that.

    Either post your evidence or shut the fuck up.

  9. douglas clark — on 14th March, 2011 at 12:38 am  

    Just so’s you know, all of you, I am not sexist. I will take an argument on the nose if it comes from a man or a woman. And I will try to make sense of it. If the argument from the woman is better than the argument from the man, well, so be it.

    I quite like women, and I detest misanthropic – e.g. joke males like joe90 – who are probably going through a hormonal phase which most of us see as adolescence.

    Their religion lets them take that into their adult future. Which is pretty sad. A wanker like Joe90 is considered a future?

    I think muslim women ought to grow up. But what the hell do I know?

    Just saying….

  10. Sarah AB — on 14th March, 2011 at 6:55 am  

    Er, ok Douglas. I don’t think adolescent behaviour on blogs is the prerogative of Muslim men though.

    But (although there was an odd spat with reference to one particular woman here) I can’t say I think you’re sexist.

  11. douglas clark — on 14th March, 2011 at 7:45 am  

    Sarah AB,

    Er, ok Douglas. I don’t think adolescent behaviour on blogs is the prerogative of Muslim men though.

    Neither do I. Though some of them, hopefully a minority, do seem to be trying to monopolise it.

    And I don’t think you are particularly sexist either.

    ;-)

    It is pretty obvious to me that men talk down to women on this internet thingy. And it doesn’t matter what their politics are, nor their religion, etc. etc. Men just do it as if it was their god given right.

    I try to treat everyone I meet here equally. You may find me an annoying correspondent, but these are my opinions, and contrariwise I will not surrender them for popularity. (Chance would be a fine thing!)

    So, women talking rubbish is just as much an insult to me as men talking rubbish.

    ______________________

    It is quite odd really.

    There are far fewer women that talk rubbish around here than men. Adjusting for the far fewer number of women that ever comment at all. It seems to me most reasonable women are fatally pissed off by the testosterone fueled lads. Who rule the roost with their stupidity and an almost mythical power. Who dominate this site and many others.

    I cannot be done with them.

  12. Kismet Hardy — on 14th March, 2011 at 1:17 pm  

    “but fuck em, fuck em, I’m not having it, fuck em, fuck em, fuck em, fuck em.”

    Rousing stuff.

    Eat your heart out Martin Luther King

  13. douglas clark — on 14th March, 2011 at 1:23 pm  

    Hmm….

    Mr Kismet Hardy @ 12,

    “but fuck em, fuck em, I’m not having it, fuck em, fuck em, fuck em, fuck em.”

    Who?

    I am so guilty of not seeing support when I ought to.

    On the other hand….

  14. damon — on 14th March, 2011 at 1:25 pm  

    A racist who bullied a family on a railway platform in South Yorkshire has become only the second person in Britain to be made the subject of a Criminal Anti Social Behaviour Order through his membership of the English Defence League.

    Shane Paul Overton, a member of the English Defence League described as Islamophobic by police, has also been banned from attending any EDL rallies or public meetings anywhere in the country after he admitted a racially aggravated public order offence.

    Judge Jacqueline Davies, sitting at Doncaster Crown Court, told Overton he had shown a patent contempt for those of a different racial background to his own throughout his adult life.

    Overton, aged 38, was returning from an EDL rally in Newcastle and waiting at Doncaster station for a connecting train to Lincoln when he came across an Asian mother and father and their two children on the platform.

    Prosecutor Richard Sheldon said he took exception to them speaking in Urdu and used racist abuse and told them to ‘get out of our country’. The children clung to their parents in fear.

    His 33 previous convictions included other racially aggravated offending linked to his association with the EDL.

    http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/man_banned_from_trains_after_racially_abusing_family_on_platform_1_3167949

    For what it’s worth, (and it’s where I first read of it) there is comment about this at Spiked magazine.
    http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/10290/

  15. douglas clark — on 14th March, 2011 at 1:42 pm  

    As we can apparently swear freely around here.

    For fucks sake damon! Even you must see this tit as an arsehole?

    On his way home following an EDL demo in Newcastle, he came across an Asian family at Doncaster rail station. Taking ‘exception to them speaking in Urdu’, he ‘used racist abuse and told them to “get out of our country”’.

    Spiked says:

    In short, for those the state disagrees with and finds offensive, Britain could soon start to resemble an open prison. This is a far greater threat than anything posed by so-called extremist groups like the EDL.

    Which is pish.

    Shane Overton was an offensive lunatic.

    If I were a bit younger and a bit tougher, I’d have hit the tit.

    Which, I hope you would agree, is what the arsehole deserves.

  16. Kismet Hardy — on 14th March, 2011 at 1:56 pm  

    Doug,

    ‘Who?’

    the dude’s ‘speech’ up top

    Personally, I wouldn’t fuck ‘em. Unless the ‘em’ in question were lovely ladies who wanted me to

  17. douglas clark — on 14th March, 2011 at 2:08 pm  

    Kismet Hardy,

    Cheers. It’s obvious when you say it.

    Unless the ‘em’ in question were lovely ladies who wanted me to…

    Oh!

    To be young again!

  18. damon — on 15th March, 2011 at 2:49 am  

    Douglas, the article was taking a stance about the guy … who deserves a smack in the head like you say, being banned from political activity and even visiting the EDL website. Did you not think this bit was least worth a moments thought?

    The judge reportedly didn’t consider this to be a free-speech issue because he deemed EDL events to have ‘no purpose’, claiming: ‘You each have a right to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly’, but ‘I am persuaded that the only reason for [going on the protest] was to provoke, encourage and enjoy public disorder’.

  19. Nadeem — on 15th March, 2011 at 12:45 pm  

    Looking at the date/time stamp on post #1 it was another great Friday night round joe90′s endz.

    Still, a £50 fine would have helped reduce the massive fiscal deficit that Bri….zzzzz

  20. joe90 — on 16th March, 2011 at 12:10 am  

    post #8

    http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/11575

    dude got short memory

    maybe you should shut up mr andy gray :)

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