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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-70381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sukhi makes some excellent points too.</description>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-70380</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 11:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The prime objective here is possibly not against a particular Sikh political party, but more the fact that perhaps certain individuals or organisations do not want a visible/practising Sikh to represent the constituents of the area concerned, hence that any visible/practising Sikh who stands is being directly linked to the Sikh Federation (UK) and false propaganda invented to undermine the nationally respected status any organisation (such as the Sikh Federation) that is in support of this stance of such a candidateâ€¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sorry but this is a load of nonsense --- typical  kneejerk smear tactics of ethnic nationalists --- disagree with a self declared Sikh political oprganisation and you are against all Sikhs, disagree with all Muslim or Black or Hindu or Jewish organisations and you are against all Muslims and Blacks and Hindus or Jews, same old rhetoric and clapped out thinking, same old thin skinned hyper sensitivity to criticism and attempts to conflate the criticised with an entire group of people. What hubris and arrogance. But not an unexpected response in the case of the Sikh Federation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The prime objective here is possibly not against a particular Sikh political party, but more the fact that perhaps certain individuals or organisations do not want a visible/practising Sikh to represent the constituents of the area concerned, hence that any visible/practising Sikh who stands is being directly linked to the Sikh Federation (UK) and false propaganda invented to undermine the nationally respected status any organisation (such as the Sikh Federation) that is in support of this stance of such a candidateâ€¦</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but this is a load of nonsense &#8212; typical  kneejerk smear tactics of ethnic nationalists &#8212; disagree with a self declared Sikh political oprganisation and you are against all Sikhs, disagree with all Muslim or Black or Hindu or Jewish organisations and you are against all Muslims and Blacks and Hindus or Jews, same old rhetoric and clapped out thinking, same old thin skinned hyper sensitivity to criticism and attempts to conflate the criticised with an entire group of people. What hubris and arrogance. But not an unexpected response in the case of the Sikh Federation.</p>
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		<title>By: whataboutallyourporkypies?</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-70370</link>
		<dc:creator>whataboutallyourporkypies?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 10:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the race for the seat! nobody really knows all the names in your blogs(male and female) real intentions are deep  down inside - you only know once they get in the seat and run it

Did anyone ever watch the apprentice? is this a really good marketing ploy for talent and what is the definition of talent- do we measure this before or after the job?
are we really bothered about colour when all we really want in non corrupt people to run the area. 
The support will follow later - it wont be much different from what it is now - even if a female gets in because most of the people are men in the party??

I do not wish to offend anyone in what I said but am happy to hear from you all

best wishes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the race for the seat! nobody really knows all the names in your blogs(male and female) real intentions are deep  down inside &#8211; you only know once they get in the seat and run it</p>
<p>Did anyone ever watch the apprentice? is this a really good marketing ploy for talent and what is the definition of talent- do we measure this before or after the job?<br />
are we really bothered about colour when all we really want in non corrupt people to run the area.<br />
The support will follow later &#8211; it wont be much different from what it is now &#8211; even if a female gets in because most of the people are men in the party??</p>
<p>I do not wish to offend anyone in what I said but am happy to hear from you all</p>
<p>best wishes</p>
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		<title>By: Gurjeet Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69991</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurjeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something V Sharma (not registed) has posted elsewhere

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/ealingsouthall#comment-21094
Story of one of the Ealing Southall hopefuls

Model sues politician over assault allegation

A young model has submitted a claim against a Labour councillor who is accused of having her arrested days before her university dissertation was due to be handed in.

Cllr Jasbir Anand (Lab, Southall Green) is accused of defaming insurance broker Natasha Tah after reporting her to police last year.

Cllr Anand, a hopeful to take over as Ealing and Southall MP at the next General Election, told police that Natasha, of Uxbridge Road, Southall, assaulted her in the street in April last year.

Natasha was investigated by police for three months before the case was thrown out by the Crown Prosecution Service.

Speaking exclusively to the Ealing Times - sister paper of Local London - in March, Natasha told how being arrested four days before she was due to hand in her dissertation â€œtotally affectedâ€ her university performance.

The claim against Cllr Anand was issued on April 11 and is currently awaiting confirmation of receipt from Cllr Anandâ€™s solicitors.

Natashaâ€™s solicitor David Sheahan said he was confident in the strength of the case.

He said: â€œHow it works is we get a report leaving all the names out - except for our clientâ€™s - and the other solicitors get the same but with their clientâ€™s name.

â€œWhen we put the two reports together we will get the complete picture. In my opinion Anand is going to find it difficult to justify her allegations in light of that report.â€

Cllr Anand said she and her solicitors would not be commenting on the case at this time.

5:57am Sunday 3rd June 2007

By David Doyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something V Sharma (not registed) has posted elsewhere</p>
<p><a href="http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/ealingsouthall#comment-21094" rel="nofollow">http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/ealingsouthall#comment-21094</a><br />
Story of one of the Ealing Southall hopefuls</p>
<p>Model sues politician over assault allegation</p>
<p>A young model has submitted a claim against a Labour councillor who is accused of having her arrested days before her university dissertation was due to be handed in.</p>
<p>Cllr Jasbir Anand (Lab, Southall Green) is accused of defaming insurance broker Natasha Tah after reporting her to police last year.</p>
<p>Cllr Anand, a hopeful to take over as Ealing and Southall MP at the next General Election, told police that Natasha, of Uxbridge Road, Southall, assaulted her in the street in April last year.</p>
<p>Natasha was investigated by police for three months before the case was thrown out by the Crown Prosecution Service.</p>
<p>Speaking exclusively to the Ealing Times &#8211; sister paper of Local London &#8211; in March, Natasha told how being arrested four days before she was due to hand in her dissertation â€œtotally affectedâ€ her university performance.</p>
<p>The claim against Cllr Anand was issued on April 11 and is currently awaiting confirmation of receipt from Cllr Anandâ€™s solicitors.</p>
<p>Natashaâ€™s solicitor David Sheahan said he was confident in the strength of the case.</p>
<p>He said: â€œHow it works is we get a report leaving all the names out &#8211; except for our clientâ€™s &#8211; and the other solicitors get the same but with their clientâ€™s name.</p>
<p>â€œWhen we put the two reports together we will get the complete picture. In my opinion Anand is going to find it difficult to justify her allegations in light of that report.â€</p>
<p>Cllr Anand said she and her solicitors would not be commenting on the case at this time.</p>
<p>5:57am Sunday 3rd June 2007</p>
<p>By David Doyle</p>
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		<title>By: Nirvair S. Khalsa</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69977</link>
		<dc:creator>Nirvair S. Khalsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 14:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Harjinder&quot; and &quot;Sukhi&quot; in Posts 43 and 48-51 respectively have made some negligent unjust points that in my opinion is fabricated misinformation and undue.

In my humble opinion the general majority of the community seem not to share these views, nor does this Government and the active mainstream political parties in the country as shown in Post 44.

The prime objective here is possibly not against a particular Sikh political party, but more the fact that perhaps certain individuals or organisations do not want a visible/practising Sikh to represent the constituents of the area concerned, hence that any visible/practising Sikh who stands is being directly linked to the Sikh Federation (UK) and false propaganda invented to undermine the nationally respected status any organisation (such as the Sikh Federation) that is in support of this stance of such a candidateâ€¦..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Harjinder&#8221; and &#8220;Sukhi&#8221; in Posts 43 and 48-51 respectively have made some negligent unjust points that in my opinion is fabricated misinformation and undue.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion the general majority of the community seem not to share these views, nor does this Government and the active mainstream political parties in the country as shown in Post 44.</p>
<p>The prime objective here is possibly not against a particular Sikh political party, but more the fact that perhaps certain individuals or organisations do not want a visible/practising Sikh to represent the constituents of the area concerned, hence that any visible/practising Sikh who stands is being directly linked to the Sikh Federation (UK) and false propaganda invented to undermine the nationally respected status any organisation (such as the Sikh Federation) that is in support of this stance of such a candidateâ€¦..</p>
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		<title>By: Gurjeet Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69945</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurjeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reference to Ealing Southall in The Sunday Times
July 1, 2007

What do you think of what Geiffrey Robinson had to say?

I saw a nasty case of KKK Touretteâ€™s at first hand last week when I was in a Five Live discussion with Gordon Brownâ€™s friend and mentor, Geoffrey Robinson MP. He had been talking, perfectly reasonably, about Labourâ€™s forthcoming by-elections. And then he had a sort of seizure. â€œWeâ€™ll be fine,â€ he said, â€œso long as we donâ€™t choose a white candidate in Ealing Southall and a black in Sedgefield.â€

Suddenly realising what had issued from his mouth, he looked embarrassed, as if he had just passed wind in front of the Queen. â€œWell, ah, um, let me be clear,â€ he bumbled in desperation, â€œweâ€™ll be fine with a candidate of any colour, creed, race or gender...â€

Hope itâ€™s not too late, Geoff. Next time you hear a politician suddenly announce he doesnâ€™t like darkies, or he bets Rosa Parks never bought a ticket for that bus, youâ€™ll know what it is: KKK Touretteâ€™s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reference to Ealing Southall in The Sunday Times<br />
July 1, 2007</p>
<p>What do you think of what Geiffrey Robinson had to say?</p>
<p>I saw a nasty case of KKK Touretteâ€™s at first hand last week when I was in a Five Live discussion with Gordon Brownâ€™s friend and mentor, Geoffrey Robinson MP. He had been talking, perfectly reasonably, about Labourâ€™s forthcoming by-elections. And then he had a sort of seizure. â€œWeâ€™ll be fine,â€ he said, â€œso long as we donâ€™t choose a white candidate in Ealing Southall and a black in Sedgefield.â€</p>
<p>Suddenly realising what had issued from his mouth, he looked embarrassed, as if he had just passed wind in front of the Queen. â€œWell, ah, um, let me be clear,â€ he bumbled in desperation, â€œweâ€™ll be fine with a candidate of any colour, creed, race or gender&#8230;â€</p>
<p>Hope itâ€™s not too late, Geoff. Next time you hear a politician suddenly announce he doesnâ€™t like darkies, or he bets Rosa Parks never bought a ticket for that bus, youâ€™ll know what it is: KKK Touretteâ€™s.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurjeet Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69919</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurjeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears the Sikh Federation (UK) has done something to wipe Sukhi up the wrong way!

Please write to the Sikh Federation (UK) on info@sikhfederation.uk with specific things we may have done that you are not unhappy with since we came into existence in September 2003.  There is nothing we do that is illegal.  

If we campaign to highlight human rights abuses in India or campaign for an independent Sikh State we do this peacefully through lobbying and diplomatic pressure.  Why should you be concerned if we exercise our democratic rights in a civilised manner unlike those in India that have tortured, murdered, disappeared etc. our fellow brothers and sisters. 

Elsewhere we have said next Cllr Gurinder Singh will be accused of being a member of the Sikh Federation (UK) and no one should vote for him.

While you are at it why not include any other Sikh that may be running - Sonika Nirwal, Jasbir Anand and Gurcharan Singh in that list. They are all as much members of the Sikh Federation (UK) as Dr Harkirtan Singh.

What the Sikh Federation (UK) is looking for is a visible/practising Sikh who will do a good job to represent the Ealing Southall constituents as well as the Sikh community in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears the Sikh Federation (UK) has done something to wipe Sukhi up the wrong way!</p>
<p>Please write to the Sikh Federation (UK) on <a href="mailto:info@sikhfederation.uk">info@sikhfederation.uk</a> with specific things we may have done that you are not unhappy with since we came into existence in September 2003.  There is nothing we do that is illegal.  </p>
<p>If we campaign to highlight human rights abuses in India or campaign for an independent Sikh State we do this peacefully through lobbying and diplomatic pressure.  Why should you be concerned if we exercise our democratic rights in a civilised manner unlike those in India that have tortured, murdered, disappeared etc. our fellow brothers and sisters. </p>
<p>Elsewhere we have said next Cllr Gurinder Singh will be accused of being a member of the Sikh Federation (UK) and no one should vote for him.</p>
<p>While you are at it why not include any other Sikh that may be running &#8211; Sonika Nirwal, Jasbir Anand and Gurcharan Singh in that list. They are all as much members of the Sikh Federation (UK) as Dr Harkirtan Singh.</p>
<p>What the Sikh Federation (UK) is looking for is a visible/practising Sikh who will do a good job to represent the Ealing Southall constituents as well as the Sikh community in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69909</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a waste of time 
now i get bull through my poast asking that lib dems care about southall
to be honest anyone who gets through will sit on their arse

i hope peopel vote for a chnage from labour
its been compelte shite since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a waste of time<br />
now i get bull through my poast asking that lib dems care about southall<br />
to be honest anyone who gets through will sit on their arse</p>
<p>i hope peopel vote for a chnage from labour<br />
its been compelte shite since.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69859</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can stick up for myself in the face of racist abuse in solidarity with other people without needing the help of an organisation wedded to a violent extremist religious nationalist ideology that actively campaigns for and is born from a banned terrorist organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can stick up for myself in the face of racist abuse in solidarity with other people without needing the help of an organisation wedded to a violent extremist religious nationalist ideology that actively campaigns for and is born from a banned terrorist organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69857</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sikh Federation campiagn for a terrorist organisation banned by the EU, USA and Canada to be de-proscribed. They are the remnants of this extremist terrorist organisation and they remain wedded to that ideology and are apologists for extremism. They are a major source of ideological commitment to a narrow and violent version of Sikh nationalism in the UK and their members have been implicated in violent incidents like the unrest at the Birmingham Rep. One of their leaders is on record as saying that Sikh youth should be encouraged into radicalism in modern Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sikh Federation campiagn for a terrorist organisation banned by the EU, USA and Canada to be de-proscribed. They are the remnants of this extremist terrorist organisation and they remain wedded to that ideology and are apologists for extremism. They are a major source of ideological commitment to a narrow and violent version of Sikh nationalism in the UK and their members have been implicated in violent incidents like the unrest at the Birmingham Rep. One of their leaders is on record as saying that Sikh youth should be encouraged into radicalism in modern Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69855</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sikh Federation is the reincarnated organisation of the ISYF, a terrorist and extremist group banned by the EU, USA and Canada. The Sikh Federation campaigns for the ISYF to be de-proscribed. Why would a non-extremist organisation campaign for a terrorist organisation? The answer is that despite all the claims otherwise, they are extremists and apologists for extremism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sikh Federation is the reincarnated organisation of the ISYF, a terrorist and extremist group banned by the EU, USA and Canada. The Sikh Federation campaigns for the ISYF to be de-proscribed. Why would a non-extremist organisation campaign for a terrorist organisation? The answer is that despite all the claims otherwise, they are extremists and apologists for extremism.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69850</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sikh Federation does not give a damn about anything except lobbying for Khalistan. They are extremist religious nationalists. Dont be fooled by the veneer that their representatives present; in this case and on this thread by the poster called Gurjeet Singh. Any candidate reccomended by them should be instantly treated with suspicion. They are a woolf in sheeps clothing with a record of links to extremist politics and agendas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sikh Federation does not give a damn about anything except lobbying for Khalistan. They are extremist religious nationalists. Dont be fooled by the veneer that their representatives present; in this case and on this thread by the poster called Gurjeet Singh. Any candidate reccomended by them should be instantly treated with suspicion. They are a woolf in sheeps clothing with a record of links to extremist politics and agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: Apolitical</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69846</link>
		<dc:creator>Apolitical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonika Nirwal would be great. she&#039;s local, talented, sikh -- want more could you want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonika Nirwal would be great. she&#8217;s local, talented, sikh &#8212; want more could you want?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69804</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gurjeet Singh,

Thanks for the reply. Your heart is in the right place when you wrote:

&quot;The runners up would then in true democratic traditions have to back the person selected - male or female, Sikh or non-Sikh.&quot;

Seems to me you are a true democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gurjeet Singh,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. Your heart is in the right place when you wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;The runners up would then in true democratic traditions have to back the person selected &#8211; male or female, Sikh or non-Sikh.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems to me you are a true democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurjeet Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1207#comment-69799</link>
		<dc:creator>Gurjeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting debate on another blog about relative priorities of more women an/or more ethnic minorities. 

Last few exchanges are posted:

Following many posts supporting AWS.  I posted the following:

It would be helpful if someone could answer the following questions:

1) How many and what % ethnic minority MPs do we have in the Commons? [compare this number and % to women).

2) How many and what % ethnic minority MPs do we have from London? Around 30% of the population is ethnic minority

3) I think the % of women MPs representing Labour in the London region is around 37.6% (Labour has a target of 40%) Why is there no target for ethnic minorities?

4) Who agrees that the lower level of ethnic minority representation is a HIGHER priority than women representation, especially in Ealing Southall?

Antonia who&#039;s the owner of the blog and a Labour councillor for Rose Hill and Iffley ward in Oxford responded to say:

Gurjeet - we currently have 15 BME MPs - 2%. I agree with you that increasing black representation is an absolute priority, but itâ€™s really unhelpful to play off black and womenâ€™s representation against one another. Iâ€™d like more black women in Parliament, please - and Ealing Southall should stay AWS.

I have just responded as follows:

Antonia you wrote:

Gurjeet - we currently have 15 BME MPs - 2%. I agree with you that increasing black representation is an absolute priority, but itâ€™s really unhelpful to play off black and womenâ€™s representation against one another. Iâ€™d like more black women in Parliament, please - and Ealing Southall should stay AWS.

To get fair representation the first priority should be more ethnic minorities, the second priority should be to get more women. If we can get more ethnic minority women elected this meets both priorities. However, the 10-year AWS experience for ethnic minorities (women and men has not been good) - nearly always a non-white woman has been selected. Hence, open selection is preferred in constituencies with large ethnic minorities.

See link to BBC article below, not sure if AWS has produced an ethnic minority MP.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4054429.stm

As you have probably heard the Ealing Southall selection is open.

Do those who support AWS (as I do) also support all ethnic minority short lists. The current Labour Party chair supports AWS, but not sure about the other. See link below:

http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=15082&amp;grp=66&amp;cat=217

Also how can the Labour Party defend having a target of 40% for women MPs, but no target for ethnic minorities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting debate on another blog about relative priorities of more women an/or more ethnic minorities. </p>
<p>Last few exchanges are posted:</p>
<p>Following many posts supporting AWS.  I posted the following:</p>
<p>It would be helpful if someone could answer the following questions:</p>
<p>1) How many and what % ethnic minority MPs do we have in the Commons? [compare this number and % to women).</p>
<p>2) How many and what % ethnic minority MPs do we have from London? Around 30% of the population is ethnic minority</p>
<p>3) I think the % of women MPs representing Labour in the London region is around 37.6% (Labour has a target of 40%) Why is there no target for ethnic minorities?</p>
<p>4) Who agrees that the lower level of ethnic minority representation is a HIGHER priority than women representation, especially in Ealing Southall?</p>
<p>Antonia who&#8217;s the owner of the blog and a Labour councillor for Rose Hill and Iffley ward in Oxford responded to say:</p>
<p>Gurjeet &#8211; we currently have 15 BME MPs &#8211; 2%. I agree with you that increasing black representation is an absolute priority, but itâ€™s really unhelpful to play off black and womenâ€™s representation against one another. Iâ€™d like more black women in Parliament, please &#8211; and Ealing Southall should stay AWS.</p>
<p>I have just responded as follows:</p>
<p>Antonia you wrote:</p>
<p>Gurjeet &#8211; we currently have 15 BME MPs &#8211; 2%. I agree with you that increasing black representation is an absolute priority, but itâ€™s really unhelpful to play off black and womenâ€™s representation against one another. Iâ€™d like more black women in Parliament, please &#8211; and Ealing Southall should stay AWS.</p>
<p>To get fair representation the first priority should be more ethnic minorities, the second priority should be to get more women. If we can get more ethnic minority women elected this meets both priorities. However, the 10-year AWS experience for ethnic minorities (women and men has not been good) &#8211; nearly always a non-white woman has been selected. Hence, open selection is preferred in constituencies with large ethnic minorities.</p>
<p>See link to BBC article below, not sure if AWS has produced an ethnic minority MP.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4054429.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4054429.stm</a></p>
<p>As you have probably heard the Ealing Southall selection is open.</p>
<p>Do those who support AWS (as I do) also support all ethnic minority short lists. The current Labour Party chair supports AWS, but not sure about the other. See link below:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=15082&#038;grp=66&#038;cat=217" rel="nofollow">http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription.asp?key=15082&#038;grp=66&#038;cat=217</a></p>
<p>Also how can the Labour Party defend having a target of 40% for women MPs, but no target for ethnic minorities?</p>
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		<title>By: Gurjeet Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurjeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labour Party members should select the best of the short listed candidates.  The electorate should vote for who who will best represent them.

Harjinder Singh wrote:

Donâ€™t elect a member of the Sikh Federation. They are an extremist organisation who are alledged to be funding elements in the khalistan movement. We need moderate, progressive Sikhs and non-sikh Punjabis to come to the front.

At no stage have we said elect a member of the Sikh Federation.  In fact are not aware of any that may be short listed or even applying for the position who are Federation members.  They may however share some of our concerns.

Regarding the other &#039;allegations&#039; the write up below shows Harjinder Singh is way off mark in describing the activities of the Sikh Federation (UK) since being established in September 2003.

UK Govt praises work of Sikh Federation 
Wednesday 13th of September 2006 
Gurjeet Singh, National Press Secretary, Sikh Federation (UK) 

London, UK - As the Sikh Federation (UK) prepares for its fourth annual National Sikh Convention to take place at Guru Nanak Gurdwara, Sedgley Street, Wolverhampton on Sunday 17 September, the UK Government has given its clearest public indication yet of its appreciation and respect for the work of the Federation in representing Britain&#039;s Sikh community. 
  
 The Federation was launched 3 years ago and has come a long way since Oliver Letwin MP, the Shadow Home Secretary used the words below at the National Sikh Convention in September 2003.
     
&#039;It is excellent news that the Convention today has announced the creation of a new national Sikh organisation, the Sikh Federation (UK). It is good that you have decided to work with the mainstream parties. As a cohesive organisation you will have a better chance of achieving not just proper recognition of Sikhs, but a host of other objectives.
  
 The announcement of the establishment of the Sikh Federation (UK) is good news for Sikhs and good news for Britain. You are showing a determination to act as a cohesive force. You are bringing the Sikh community together to ensure that you are best placed to work with the grain of political and social institutions in this country. The work that you do has never been more important. By organising this event today and coming here in such vast numbers you are showing your commitment to public life and a determination to lead by example.&#039;
  
   
The Rt. Hon. Hazel Blears MP, the Chair of the Labour Party, in a letter received by the Federation a few days ago states: 
     
&#039;May I commend the work of the Sikh Federation (UK), and thank you for all that you do. You have the respect of Government Ministers because of the seriousness and diligence you bring to your work of representing Britain&#039;s Sikh community. In that, you are a model for others to emulate.&#039;
  
 Many see this as a potential turning point and recognition for the considerable local and national lobbying on behalf of the Sikhs by the Federation over the last few years. However, Bhai Amrik Singh, the Chair of the Federation, said: &quot;These are challenging times for the Sikh community in the UK and abroad. The work we do on behalf of the Sikh community needs greater professionalism and resources to take us to new levels in the coming years. This represents an excellent opportunity to consolidate and build so we can significant progress on our stated aims and objectives.&quot;
  
&quot;The public recognition by the UK Government of our work is vitally important and has come about after several years of lobbying and work behind the scenes. We have had considerable support from the Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, Labour MPs and the smaller political parties for which we are extremely grateful. However, words of support from across the political spectrum will only have true meaning if we can translate these into positive action in key areas where Sikhs have genuine concerns. The next few years will be a test for us all. Provided we remain focused and united and have the backing of the Sangat our success will be for all to see.&quot;
 
http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/2741/2006-09-13.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour Party members should select the best of the short listed candidates.  The electorate should vote for who who will best represent them.</p>
<p>Harjinder Singh wrote:</p>
<p>Donâ€™t elect a member of the Sikh Federation. They are an extremist organisation who are alledged to be funding elements in the khalistan movement. We need moderate, progressive Sikhs and non-sikh Punjabis to come to the front.</p>
<p>At no stage have we said elect a member of the Sikh Federation.  In fact are not aware of any that may be short listed or even applying for the position who are Federation members.  They may however share some of our concerns.</p>
<p>Regarding the other &#8216;allegations&#8217; the write up below shows Harjinder Singh is way off mark in describing the activities of the Sikh Federation (UK) since being established in September 2003.</p>
<p>UK Govt praises work of Sikh Federation<br />
Wednesday 13th of September 2006<br />
Gurjeet Singh, National Press Secretary, Sikh Federation (UK) </p>
<p>London, UK &#8211; As the Sikh Federation (UK) prepares for its fourth annual National Sikh Convention to take place at Guru Nanak Gurdwara, Sedgley Street, Wolverhampton on Sunday 17 September, the UK Government has given its clearest public indication yet of its appreciation and respect for the work of the Federation in representing Britain&#8217;s Sikh community. </p>
<p> The Federation was launched 3 years ago and has come a long way since Oliver Letwin MP, the Shadow Home Secretary used the words below at the National Sikh Convention in September 2003.</p>
<p>&#8216;It is excellent news that the Convention today has announced the creation of a new national Sikh organisation, the Sikh Federation (UK). It is good that you have decided to work with the mainstream parties. As a cohesive organisation you will have a better chance of achieving not just proper recognition of Sikhs, but a host of other objectives.</p>
<p> The announcement of the establishment of the Sikh Federation (UK) is good news for Sikhs and good news for Britain. You are showing a determination to act as a cohesive force. You are bringing the Sikh community together to ensure that you are best placed to work with the grain of political and social institutions in this country. The work that you do has never been more important. By organising this event today and coming here in such vast numbers you are showing your commitment to public life and a determination to lead by example.&#8217;</p>
<p>The Rt. Hon. Hazel Blears MP, the Chair of the Labour Party, in a letter received by the Federation a few days ago states: </p>
<p>&#8216;May I commend the work of the Sikh Federation (UK), and thank you for all that you do. You have the respect of Government Ministers because of the seriousness and diligence you bring to your work of representing Britain&#8217;s Sikh community. In that, you are a model for others to emulate.&#8217;</p>
<p> Many see this as a potential turning point and recognition for the considerable local and national lobbying on behalf of the Sikhs by the Federation over the last few years. However, Bhai Amrik Singh, the Chair of the Federation, said: &#8220;These are challenging times for the Sikh community in the UK and abroad. The work we do on behalf of the Sikh community needs greater professionalism and resources to take us to new levels in the coming years. This represents an excellent opportunity to consolidate and build so we can significant progress on our stated aims and objectives.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The public recognition by the UK Government of our work is vitally important and has come about after several years of lobbying and work behind the scenes. We have had considerable support from the Conservatives, Liberal Democrats, Labour MPs and the smaller political parties for which we are extremely grateful. However, words of support from across the political spectrum will only have true meaning if we can translate these into positive action in key areas where Sikhs have genuine concerns. The next few years will be a test for us all. Provided we remain focused and united and have the backing of the Sangat our success will be for all to see.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/2741/2006-09-13.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/2741/2006-09-13.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Harjinder Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harjinder Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t elect a member of the Sikh Federation.  They are an extremist organisation who are alledged to be funding elements in the khalistan movement.  We need moderate, progressive Sikhs and non-sikh Punjabis to come to the front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t elect a member of the Sikh Federation.  They are an extremist organisation who are alledged to be funding elements in the khalistan movement.  We need moderate, progressive Sikhs and non-sikh Punjabis to come to the front.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurjeet Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurjeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>douglas clark 

Anyway, speculation aside, are there any fiesty female Sikhs around as potential candidates? Re Unitysâ€™ point.

Yes - female and male Sikhs are in the running.

Hopefully, the selection panel will do the sensible thing in coming up with the short list and let the Labour Party membership of around 2,000 in Ealing Southall decide who should represent them. The runners up would then in true democratic traditions have to back the person selected - male or female, Sikh or non-Sikh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>douglas clark </p>
<p>Anyway, speculation aside, are there any fiesty female Sikhs around as potential candidates? Re Unitysâ€™ point.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; female and male Sikhs are in the running.</p>
<p>Hopefully, the selection panel will do the sensible thing in coming up with the short list and let the Labour Party membership of around 2,000 in Ealing Southall decide who should represent them. The runners up would then in true democratic traditions have to back the person selected &#8211; male or female, Sikh or non-Sikh.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gurjeet Singh,

Hmm, and Sunny has something important to tell us in July?

Anyway, speculation aside, are there any fiesty female Sikhs around as potential candidates? Re Unitys&#039; point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gurjeet Singh,</p>
<p>Hmm, and Sunny has something important to tell us in July?</p>
<p>Anyway, speculation aside, are there any fiesty female Sikhs around as potential candidates? Re Unitys&#8217; point.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurjeet Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurjeet Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Labour selection is OPEN.

The timetable is something along the following lines:

Applicants by 12 noon on Monday 2 July. [Apparently got about 50 applicants today]

Long list of about 10 selected by Monday evening.

Interviews on Tuesday 3 July to get down to 4 or 5.  Possibly hustings the same day.

Voting by Labour Party members on Wednesday 4 July.

Our guess - 80% possibility of a Sikh candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Labour selection is OPEN.</p>
<p>The timetable is something along the following lines:</p>
<p>Applicants by 12 noon on Monday 2 July. [Apparently got about 50 applicants today]</p>
<p>Long list of about 10 selected by Monday evening.</p>
<p>Interviews on Tuesday 3 July to get down to 4 or 5.  Possibly hustings the same day.</p>
<p>Voting by Labour Party members on Wednesday 4 July.</p>
<p>Our guess &#8211; 80% possibility of a Sikh candidate.</p>
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