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  • EDL founder is a convicted criminal for child pornography / EDL’s international links to terrorists


    by Jai
    4th March, 2011 at 9:00 am    

    Some further disturbing facts about the English Defence League (EDL) have recently come to light:

    1. It turns out that one of the EDL’s founders, Richard Price, has a criminal record for downloading child pornography. Police discovered multiple images on Price’s computer when they raided his home after he had broken police lines and engaged in threatening behaviour at an EDL rally (for which he was jailed for 3 months). Price later admitted to downloading child pornography and was placed on the Sex Offenders Register. To make matters even worse, the EDL’s current leader Stephen Yaxley Lennon (aka “Tommy Robinson”) actually attempted to defend him, and only backtracked after an outcry from other EDL members who had become aware of Price’s actions.

    Stephen Yaxley Lennon himself, an ex-BNP member and a convicted criminal who is actually the son of Irish immigrants to England, is of course now on record as admitting to being vehemently hostile towards Islam in general, not just extremist interpretations of the faith (ie. “militant Islam”). He publicly confirmed his stance when he was interviewed by the BBC’s Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight in February 2011.

    2. The EDL has links to the Jewish Task Force (JTF), a Far-Right American organisation whose leader Victor Vancier is a convicted terrorist on multiple counts of attacking targets in the United States. Until 1978, Vancier was the national chairman of the “Jewish Defense League”, which the FBI has formally designated as a terrorist organisation. Vancier is banned from entering Israel due to his affiliations with the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, the founder of the Jewish Defense League. The leader of the EDL’s “Jewish Division”, Roberta Moore, has stated on her Facebook page that the EDL intends to work with the JTF; her comment also included a URL link to an audio file on the JTF’s website, in which Vancier confirmed that the EDL had contacted the JTF and that they have agreed that they want to work together on “joint projects”.

    3. Numerous photographs of the EDL’s “Birmingham Division” have become publicly available, several of which can be seen below. The EDL members involved are posing (apparently with firearms) in front of a number of flags, one of which is associated with the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF). The UVF is a loyalist paramilitary group in Northern Ireland which is banned in the Republic of Ireland and is formally designated as a terrorist organisation in the United Kingdom. From 1966 until it officially ended its armed campaign in 2007, the UVF engaged in numerous acts of violence including multiple bombings, ultimately killing more than 480 people, the vast majority of whom were Catholic civilians.

    At the time of writing, the EDL plans to hold a demonstration in Birmingham on 19 March 2011.

    Sunny’s Update: I’ve changed the headline slightly to be clear about the nature of the conviction.


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      Pickled Politics EDL founder is a convicted criminal for child pornography / EDLs international links to terrorists: http://bit.ly/fD1Hya


    133. Stevie Dunn

      #EDL is a paedophile founded 'organisation' http://t.co/6qtuCO5m


    134. Pishaman

      #EDL is a paedophile founded 'organisation' http://t.co/6qtuCO5m


    135. IIDMIIKHANII

      #EDL is a paedophile founded 'organisation' http://t.co/6qtuCO5m


    136. .

      RT @_PROUD_SCOUSER: #EDL is a paedophile founded 'organisation' http://t.co/bf2BsPy1 <<< has not been checked yet


    137. Stevie Dunn

      #EDL hate paki's but love paedos. In fact, so much so, the EDL hero is a convicted one http://t.co/6qtuCO5m


    138. Will Louch

      @Eddgas @smilinggherkin @official_edl Read following article, EDL founder did't even have decency to marry her http://t.co/4kjKdqts


    139. Annika Hamrud

      @torehammar finns fler länkar till den bilden - ex denna: http://t.co/RxNw8oSv




    1. Fenrir1 — on 4th March, 2011 at 9:11 am  

      They are a bunch of complete fuckwits, they do serve however to keep the issue of extremist islam in the public eye and that is a debate which needs to be held despite the attempts by some to block it. As for the guns, they are probably airsoft toys which look like the real thing but fire little plastic balls for those who like to play at being soldiers long after they should have grown up.

      Their idiocy is clear to see for anybody with even a rudimentary knowledge of firearms, shotguns are far more efficient for shooting birds than machine pistols.

    2. bob — on 4th March, 2011 at 9:51 am  

      Many of the flags are associated with Northern Ireland. The No Surrender one is a common slogan from the terrorist groups, the purple with orange trim on the middle right with the UVF emblem, the bottom right is likely to be the red hand of ulster flag, the bottom left is the Orange Order flag.

      And the marching drum is of a style used by loyalist marching bands in Northern Ireland.

    3. 9xzulug — on 4th March, 2011 at 9:59 am  

      the most worrying point that should be rammed home is the edl’s leader is a cloned bnp trojan put in place to keep racial tensions warm to allow bnp a chance to regroup after the last elections.if the edl are broken then the bnp will most definently wither away just like the nf did back in 70′s/80′s.this game plan/plot is so similar the how nf(national front) played with bm(british movement)

    4. damon — on 4th March, 2011 at 11:12 am  

      This article doesn’t really do it for me - sorry.
      It’s sensationalist and tabloid. For a start, headlining with ”paedophile” is a bit too easy.
      You don’t have to think pornagraphic images of children are acceptable to think that the searching of computors to look at someone’s viewing history when they are arrested for something like this guy was, is heavyhanded and intrusive.
      Why not just make it mandatory that all computors have to be handed in for screening every few months?

      As for the idiots posing with what are probably toys in front of loyalist flags, no one is suggesting that the EDL are people you would want to go out socialising with, and many of them are nasty pieces of work, but (as some people might know by now) I think that the people at Spiked often have interesting things to say. This is what they said about the EDL.

      The English Defence League has provided an easy target for politicians and campaigners in search of a cause.

      http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/10208/

    5. Rumbold — on 4th March, 2011 at 11:42 am  

      Nonsense Damon- Jai has got it spot on. Someone who keeps a store of child pornography can reasonably be described as a paedophile. And I don’t see what is wrong in arresting him for that, unless you think having child pornography should not be an arrestable offence.

    6. Awakening Tempest — on 4th March, 2011 at 11:44 am  

      The core for me here is the level of corruption EDL are involved in at all fronts. Crime is their chosen life-style and the images simply provide a glimpse of their intentions. Had these images been of children having a laugh then that can be understandable but for grown-up adults who we assume EDL to be and who brains have evolved this shows clear intent to cause unrest amongst the streets of Britain.

      The problem I have is trying to understand why people fail to see their ill intentions. They simply are drunken football hooligans - many EDL demonstrations which were aired over TV recently simply showed a thug with a beer in his hand.

    7. Tan — on 4th March, 2011 at 12:19 pm  

      If the biggots in this country channel their energies towards these clowns, its a bit of a relief. Let them be.

    8. Bollywood Masala — on 4th March, 2011 at 1:12 pm  

      OMG! Seriously?

    9. damon — on 4th March, 2011 at 1:16 pm  

      Firstly Rumbold, I think that leaders or founders of the EDL are the least interesting thing about them.
      Of course some of them are likely to be cranks as individuals.

      As for what people have on their computors, I’m not entirely sure what the definition of ‘possesion’ is, but it does seem quite technical.
      Whether what is on a person’s computor is private or not is a contentious issue.

      ‘Laptop Searches in Airports Draw Fire at Senate Hearing’
      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/26/washington/26airports.html

      Because for years I’ve been reading stuff like this … http://www.spiked-online.com/articles/00000006DC06.htm
      … I can’t help having some reservations about police searching people’s computors quite randomly.

      Leaders of the student protests or UKuncut wouldn’t like it if the police went trawling through their computors if the got arrested for something.
      Who knows what they might find?

    10. Don — on 4th March, 2011 at 1:29 pm  

      Damon, as the guy is a leading member of a violent organisation it would be odd if the police didn’t check out his computer.

    11. Boyo — on 4th March, 2011 at 3:32 pm  

      The headline is perfectly justifiable, although doing a Daily Mail on the EDL is hardly constructive - it’s the mirror image of the right wing press doing the same on “beards and burkhas”.

      More interesting that their respectable equivalent, UKIP, came second at last nights by-election with your party Rumbold, um, losing its deposit. Indeed on Newsnight the candidate from the BNP said, “they’re just like us without the racism”. Following the recent poll which indicated quids-in for non-fascist “Nationalist” Party, if UKIP has an effective rebrand over the next few years parliament could look quite different.

      Open your eyes folks. ;-)

    12. Rumbold — on 4th March, 2011 at 4:51 pm  

      Which party are you referring to Boyo?

    13. Nadeem — on 4th March, 2011 at 5:58 pm  

      since when were UKIP respectable?

    14. Boyo — on 4th March, 2011 at 6:04 pm  

      Lib Dems Rumbold……

    15. Don — on 4th March, 2011 at 6:33 pm  

      Boyo,

      Nah, Rumbold’s a libertarian. I was the LibDem but the therapy seems to be working. Another two or three years and I should be able to get through the night without waking up screaming. They may have to up the voltage, though.

    16. Shamit — on 4th March, 2011 at 6:51 pm  

      Damon

      I think you are clutching at straws - checking someone’s laptop at the airport and checking a suspect’s computer who is already in custody are completely different.

      The first one could be argued as infringement of civil liberties and the second one is legitimate police investigation - and neither you nor I know whether they had a search warrant in this case.

      So the suspect is not only a “violent extremist” who is not willing to give some of his fellow citizens their basic rights but also a paedophile. I too think Jai is absolutely spot on.

    17. Sarah AB — on 4th March, 2011 at 7:00 pm  

      Fenrir - I think it should be possible to raise concerns WRT Islamism without having anything to do with the EDL. In fact the EDL involvement (understandably)makes people less, rather than more, ready to raise such issues.

    18. amir — on 4th March, 2011 at 7:53 pm  

      damon is clearly a Muslim hater and closet BNP/EDL supporter

    19. Sarah AB — on 4th March, 2011 at 8:02 pm  

      No! He’s just a little contrarian.

    20. damon — on 4th March, 2011 at 8:54 pm  

      And Amir no doubt believes in Adam and Eve and can only view things in simple ways.

      Shammit and Don. You say that having his computor analysed is justified because he was arrested for a violent offence. Why’s that? The police obviously think it’s their business to actually work against the EDL and try to damage tham as an organisation.
      I think that this is not something to be blasé about.
      The police might come for the organisers of UAF, UKuncut and Climate Camp next and demand to trawl through their computors.
      Anyway, the privacy of computors is another subject for a different thread.

      The fuss about the photos of some guys in EDL jackets posing in front of loyalist flags with toy guns is also a bit of a flap about nothing much IMO. I’m listening to ”Any Questions” on radio 4 as I type this, and the panelists in Scotland have all just clucked and Oh my god-ed their way through a question about a bit of argy bargy at a Rangers-Celtic match the other night.
      They clearly have no clue about that football fixture in real life as they see things through their safe sanitised lives.

      My point being, so some idiots pose in front of flags with toy guns? Big deal. You get exactly the same sort of crap all over youtube, in little gangsta rap crew videos.

      This is one of my favorites btw. From Montreuil Paris.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGHEg50UiY

      Sarah AB - :)

    21. Boyo — on 4th March, 2011 at 9:32 pm  

      sorry Rumbold (although given i find voting Lib Dem forgivable - how else could i forgive Sunny - I’m not sure I could forgive you voting Tory, and if not them, who else?!).

    22. KJB — on 5th March, 2011 at 12:32 am  

      Don @ 15 - ha! That’s pretty much how I feel, and I can’t even really call myself a Lib Dem - I just voted for them once.

      Boyo - Rumbold was a member of the party designated LURPAK (or LPUK, as they call themselves), but he came to his senses afterwards.

      I know because douglas and I have mocked him for it many a time…

      SarahAB @ 19, you sound almost affectionate. Eww.

      It would be hilarious if this ever filtered through to the tabloids. They would be sitting there, scratching their heads, thinking: ‘PAEDO! BAD! BUT ANTI-ISLAM… GOOD?’ until their heads exploded.

    23. Rumbold — on 5th March, 2011 at 10:14 am  

      Boyo:

      Well, I would be more likely to vote for the Lib Dems now…

      Not sure that helps.

    24. Golam Murtaza — on 5th March, 2011 at 3:32 pm  

      The EDL thug on the right in the top photo seems to be brandishing a World War Two era GERMAN Schmeisser machine pistol. That’s not very patriotic. Unless he is German.

      And someone should have told the EDL guy in the middle that if he wants to look tough and intimidating he’ll have to try a lot harder.

    25. Josh — on 5th March, 2011 at 4:35 pm  

      Golam Murtaza, actually it is an MP40 designed by Heinrich Vollmer and Manufacturered by Erma Werke.

      Hugo Schmeisser had nothing to do with it - he designed the MP18 (and later MP41). All he held for the MP40 was a pre-existing patent for the magazine.

      No need to thank me :)

    26. bad — on 5th March, 2011 at 4:41 pm  

      Still they’re offputting pics. Spooky even.

      Just wanted to comment on Jai’s thread before comments are closed down like the last couple. I’ve been browsing through Pickled Politics after a gap and glad to see the blog is still more or less on par on U.K. issues.

    27. bad again — on 5th March, 2011 at 4:43 pm  

      Sorry should clarify that I had wanted to comment on some of Jai’s previous posts, but the comments are closed.
      Gorgeous posts btw

    28. Golam Murtaza — on 5th March, 2011 at 6:40 pm  

      Always ready to stand corrected Josh, thanks!

    29. joe90 — on 5th March, 2011 at 7:04 pm  

      Edl give it the hard man act when it comes to shouting and swearing in the high street in england.

      Went to holland to support islamaphobic geert wilders, started to piss their pants when ajax fans and local arab youth arrive on the scene.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TgDLVmpovY

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOo76zzgc8U

      p.s poor tommy robinson started whimpering no retreat no surrender then legged it haha

    30. Cluebot — on 5th March, 2011 at 7:44 pm  

      Top picture.

      Drummer in the middle and big fella on the right with the MP40: who is closer to the camera? Really?

      Bright lights, but no shadows? Really?

      Can leftists say Photoshop?

    31. Jai — on 7th March, 2011 at 10:26 am  

      Sorry should clarify that I had wanted to comment on some of Jai’s previous posts, but the comments are closed.
      Gorgeous posts btw

      Thank you very much for your kind words, Bad.

    32. AbuF — on 7th March, 2011 at 12:53 pm  

      Fascinating window on joe90′s cluelessness about contemporary Dutch society, there:

      (1) Ajax have a traditionally very pro-Israel fan-base; most local Muslims support *that* Rotterdam club who are Ajax’s rivals - go on, make a guess…

      (2) Most Muslims in the Netherlands are not of Arab descent.

      Dóh.

    33. joe90 — on 7th March, 2011 at 11:11 pm  

      post #32

      you have to laugh did you interview all the guys that battered the edl and ask their ethnic origin?

      secondly the ajax fans came out against edl regardless of their religious background

      most muslims in netherlands are not of arab descent??? and how is that related to my post exactly?

      doh exactly, try again sunshine you just made yourself look like a complete wazzock

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