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Richard Desmond: The BNP’s poster boy

Posted By Sunny On 7th June, 2007 @ 1:40 am In Media, Race politics | Comments Disabled

ExpressThe Daily Express’ shrieking about ethnic minorities and the supposed danger they pose to Britain has finally reached Nazi Germany levels. And I don’t say that lightly either, since I abhor using words such as fascist or nazi etc easily.

This peice of toilet paper, which over 500,000 people actually buy every day, published a story yesterday titled: [1] Ethnic Baby Boom ‘Crisis’. I assume someone said there was a crisis? The crisis is that babies from ethnic minorities are being born you see. That is the crisis!
The story says:

Race trouble is being predicted because of an ethnic baby boom in one of Britain’s major cities.

This is creating a major population shift in the South Yorkshire city, raising concern among community leaders that simmering tensions could erupt in riots similar to those that have blighted Bradford and Oldham.

Who is predicting race trouble? Erm, no one. The report actually says: “Sheffield has an incredibly strong identity and many people across all communities do feel a real sense of place and pride. There is already a very strong sense of shared values amongst all communities.

The newspaper not only completely misrepresents the report but also says in stark terms that non-whites are breeding fast and they are only good for one thing: race riots.

Unsurprisingly the article is populated by incisive comments such as: “We pay them to breed like rabbits”, “I advocate the compulsorary sterilization of women from ethnic ‘minorities’ after their second child….” - You get the jist. It’s not just sickening, it is racist.
Bloggers [2] Obsolete (who alerted me) and [3] 5CC have done further fisking.

Complain: To the Press Complaints Commission using [4] this form. Cite ‘Accuracy’ as the code that’s been breached. Phone number: 0845 600 2757


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#1 Comment By bill On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:33 am

13 per cent of Sheffield’s population of 527,000 is now made up of minorities from all races and backgrounds – including a recent influx of thousands of migrants from new EU countries such as Poland and Romania.

While the city’s white population has declined

Those dark-skinned Poles, eh?

What I don’t get is what the Express is trying to do with this bit of race-baiting. Especially as it looks like the city council is trying to manage its demographic changes in such a way as to limit (if not room speculation, I suppose

>There aren’t serious problems, but there might be.

>Sheffield Wednesday might win the Champions League in a few years time.

‘Might’ is the operative term in both cases. Were it not for the fact that the Express likes to imagine one of these things happening, I doubt there would be much controversy.(Me, I’d rather daydream about the second)

#2 Comment By septicisle On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:33 am

Indeed, I thought I was beyond being shocked by the tabloids but this really is the journalism of the sewer.

At lot of people often pooh-pooh the idea that the Express has any influence etc, no one believes a word it says, but despite Richard Desmond’s best efforts, it still sells around 760,000 copies a day, which is more than both the Guardian and Independent combined.

#3 Comment By bill On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:36 am

“if not remove tension”, I meant to write. (that’s really bad self-editing, sorry)

#4 Comment By douglas clark On 7th June, 2007 @ 5:55 am

Sunny,

You’ve got to love it. An ‘ethnic baby boom crisis’ is a complete contradiction in terms.

Babies are good.

Ask any female, or wimpy men like me. I bloody love babies. They are the tabula rosa. They are our future. They might very well grow up to see themselves as something other than ethnic, who knows?

Contribute to science, politics, religious tolerance? Write offended letters to the Daily Express?

Certainly not the brain dead zombies that the Express assumes them to be. Categorisation is, of itself, a category crime. Especially when you take on infants.

That is a horrid article.

#5 Comment By Rumbold On 7th June, 2007 @ 9:20 am

This really is a disgrace, but then waht do you expect from the Express?

I am not well versed in the Press Complaints Commission code of conduct but I suspect that the article is so carefully worded as to avoid any censure from them. By referring to ‘community leaders’ as the source of the concern about race riots, the Express has ensured that if challenged on this, all they need to produce a quote from a BNP grandee, who is, after all, a leader of the racist community.

#6 Comment By bananabrain On 7th June, 2007 @ 9:27 am

i thought richard desmond himself was quite pro-equal opportunities, especially when it comes to porn. doesn’t he own a number of magazines that appeal to the, ah, sexually multicultural?

not that i have any particular interest in this chap or indeed the daily express but he is an extremely active philanthropist afaik.

b’shalom

bananabrain

#7 Comment By Bape On 7th June, 2007 @ 9:30 am

What I’m wondering is whether the posts on the express website in response to the article, which are extremely racist indeed, would not mean the Express is now liable for propagating more direct race hate ? If they publish the racist views of their readers then can they not be prosecuted under the race hate laws ?

#8 Comment By Paul Moloney On 7th June, 2007 @ 10:04 am

Presumably a complaint from Ireland wouldn’t be accepted, so someone please do so on my behalf. Sickening.

P.

#9 Comment By GM On 7th June, 2007 @ 10:16 am

Bape

I don’t think the PCC have the powers to act on readers’ letters, so I imagine the same stands for online comments after stories or editorials. We ([5] ICAR) did a [6] study (pages 111 and 136 on letter) recently on the effectiveness of PCC guidelines on the reporting of asylum in the mainstream and local press. While the report urges caution and the provision of context when publishing readers’ letters the newspaper editors are ultimately not responsible for the content of those letters so I don’t think it can be the subject of a referral to the PCC. However, it is difficult to imagine The Express publishing those comments as letters, so perhaps the ‘offensive?’ link allows them to do so online.

#10 Comment By Jo On 7th June, 2007 @ 11:08 am

Hi,

I’ve been lurking on the board for the past yaer and a bit. Aside form the crap in the actual article, the term “ethnic” as everyone reagrdless of their coulour is an “ethnic.” People with a deep seated racism but who want to look like shiny, happy multiculturalists often give themselves away by the use of this term, as in, “Oh, yes we’ve got a lot of etnics round here.”

#11 Comment By Riz On 7th June, 2007 @ 11:10 am

On a lighter, side-note:

The Times reports ‘Muhammad is No 2 in boy’s names’:

“Muhammad is now second only to Jack as the most popular name for baby boys in Britain and is likely to rise to No 1 by next year, a study by The Times has found. The name, if all 14 different spellings are included, was shared by 5,991 newborn boys last year, beating Thomas into third place, followed by Joshua and Oliver.”

#12 Comment By Paul Moloney On 7th June, 2007 @ 11:15 am

Out of curious, what proportion of Muslim boys are given a variation of the name Muhammed?

And how comes only Christians of Spanish origin use the name “Jesus”? (I know that’s only tangential, but I’m thinking aloud here.)

P.

#13 Comment By ally On 7th June, 2007 @ 11:25 am

Thanks for highlighting this, Sunny. It’s shocking even by their standards.

In other news, we have a Big Brother racism scandal. Well there’s a surprise.

#14 Comment By ChrisC On 7th June, 2007 @ 11:32 am

I know this is the kind of thing which (eg) Laban Tall might say, but, leaving aside the crasness of this specific article and the idiotic comments, demographic trends will become a political issue at some stage.

White Brits are simply not reproducing!

#15 Comment By TheFriendlyInfidel On 7th June, 2007 @ 11:50 am

White Brits are simply not reproducing!

I tell you what though, damn do we get a lot of practising in!

TFI

#16 Comment By TheFriendlyInfidel On 7th June, 2007 @ 12:00 pm

They are liberal people in that photograph. The lady in black is letting that obvious tranny on the right hold her baby.

TFI

#17 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 12:11 pm

They are liberal people in that photograph. The lady in black is letting that obvious tranny on the right hold her baby.

Just when we needed a focus group on the internal workings of the mind of the average Daily Express reader.

#18 Comment By A pedant writes On 7th June, 2007 @ 12:44 pm

Douglas you have been busy today (Harry’s place hmmm?)

To correct your latin i think you meant to say tabula rasa

#19 Comment By David T On 7th June, 2007 @ 12:45 pm

Lots of Spaniards are called Joseph, and they’re nicknamed Pepe, which is an abbreviation for “Padre Putativo” (i.e. Jesus’ putative dad)

#20 Comment By Tim Footman On 7th June, 2007 @ 1:02 pm

I always wonder whether disgusting people choose to read the Express, or that reading the Express makes you a disgusting person.

#21 Comment By TheFriendlyInfidel On 7th June, 2007 @ 1:37 pm

Sid I’ve never read the paper in my life. However I’m part of the one in four people that believe that the full burka is a way for men to dress up as women and not feel embarrassed.

It’s a conspiracy! Prove me wrong!

*yawn*

TFI

#22 Comment By Roger On 7th June, 2007 @ 1:41 pm

Are the people on the front page Polish or Romanian?

#23 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

Good point Roger. Notice the coded language of ‘Ethnic Baby Boom’ but the money shot is of a pair of burkha-clad women bearing children.

I’ve never seen racism in the press get as explicit as this.

Like Jagdeep, I blame the Satanic Verses, of course.

#24 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:14 pm

Meanwhile, in another multicultural space-time [7] continuum : You can’t even call black people “nigger” nowadays! It’s Political Correctness Gone Made!

#25 Comment By Kismet Hardy On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:24 pm

“Out of curious, what proportion of Muslim boys are given a variation of the name Muhammed?”

Pretty much all of us. It’s more of a title. Very few use it. Mine’s spelled Muhammad on my passport, Mohammed on my bank statements and Mohammad at my doctor’s.

Gawd knows why I didn’t get into serial fraud

#26 Comment By Tahir On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:30 pm

My Dad and all his friends when they are completing Hajj have had to change their names to include the title Muhammad to signify I guess that they are of this faith … Perhaps they aren’t let into pilgrimage without it - dunno, forgot to ask my Dad about this properly.

#27 Comment By Billy On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:30 pm

“13 per cent of Sheffield’s population of 527,000 is now made up of minorities from all races and backgrounds”

If you doubled that proportion and then doubled again it’d be half non-white. How exactly is that a crisis? And why will race riots necessarily follow?

Idiots.

#28 Comment By Billy On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:31 pm

…and those comments on the story.

You couldn’t make them up!

#29 Comment By Tahir On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:32 pm

racism like this is explained by the casual way after 9/11 that every one is busy dissecting what Muslims do think, act, look like, blah blah.

Just coz some terrorists took my faith in vain the BNP can use it as open season to be openly racist in this way.

This is why the war on terror is a distraction - it’s given racists an excuse to let loose their xenophobia.

#30 Comment By anon On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:41 pm

I’ve seen pictures like that in the Economist with captions like - ‘Watch Out - they are moving into a street near you.”

#31 Comment By ChrisC On 7th June, 2007 @ 2:42 pm

Tahir

Sorry about this, but if a few people from religion X, Y or Z had murdered 50 people, in the name of X, Y or Z, and a few others had tried to do the same a few weeks later, then X, Y or Z would be under scrutiny, don’t you think?

Especially if a sizeable, variable according to which poll you look at but still sizeable, minority of X, Y or Z appeared to hold let us say an equivocal attitude towards the actions of those few.

“This is why the war on terror is a distraction”

A distraction from what exactly?

#32 Comment By David T On 7th June, 2007 @ 3:04 pm

This little haikuesque post from a HP regular:

Desmond.
Asian Babes Good
Asian Babies Bad

#33 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 3:12 pm

hahaha

#34 Comment By Jagdeep On 7th June, 2007 @ 3:24 pm

hahaha

Hairy’s Place did a funny

#35 Comment By Jai On 7th June, 2007 @ 3:30 pm

The irony, of course, being the fact that no Asian Babies today means no Asian Babes tomorrow.

#36 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

anon - the Economist photo captions are usually extremely funny. Besides, it’s a celebral middle class rag, so I’m sure offence was not intended.

#37 Comment By David T On 7th June, 2007 @ 3:44 pm

Yeah, the Economist captions are also usually quite arch, and tend to reference aspects of popular culture in an in-jokey manner. But they’d not do something which might be misinterpreted as racist - particularly as they’re pro-immigration. I mean, they might use the “Watch out… ” caption in relation to - say - English people moving to Dubai; but I can’t imagine them using it in relation to a brown skinned person.

#38 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:00 pm

I have extended family members called Isa, Mariam and Yusuf. The Muslim equivalents to Jesus, Mary and Joseph. So the entire holy family is represented at our reunions.

#39 Comment By Kismet Hardy On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:07 pm

On more pressing matters, Emily has just been evicted from Big Brother for racism

#40 Comment By sonia On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

douglas clark:

“They might very well grow up to see themselves as something other than ethnic, who knows?”

you’re so spot on my friend,

#41 Comment By ally On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

Kismet, in the tradition of Big Brother argumentation, I feel honour-bound to point out that Emily has been actually expelled for using a racist noun, not necessarily for being racist. We can now look forward to several million column inches debating whether or not using a racist noun is invariably a signifier of racist beliefs. Coming soon, Mark Lawson saying “if Snoop Dogg can use it, why can’t Emily?”

And in fact by all accounts she did actually use it in a faux-street Chris Rock kinda way. So she may not be actually racist, but undoubtedly deserves to be expelled, excoriated, killed and eaten for the crime of being an excruciatingly embarrassing upper-class twit of the year.

Gotta love Big Brother.

#42 Comment By Anas On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:29 pm

Isn’t this the kind of thing Amir used to get bothered about? The dilution of an area’s character and its cultural makeup due to alien elements breeding like rabbits and/or bringing their families over. It clearly bothers a large number of people. I think its cool, myself: I hate walking down the street and just seeing white faces — let’s mix it up.

#43 Comment By Anas On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:33 pm

It’s like that routine this black comedian (can’t remember his name) once did about this white guy who was used to hanging around with a group of black guys and hearing them all call each other the N-word, greeted them once with “hey niggers”. At which point all conversation stopped.

#44 Comment By Jagdeep On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:33 pm

I hate walking down the street and just seeing white faces — let’s mix it up.

You see, I can understand why some white people would get pissed off at someone saying that. Personally, I don’t care if I walk down the street and only see white faces. There’s nothing wrong with it, it’s just the way it is in that street. Imagine if a white person said ‘I hate walking down the street and only seeing Black or Asian faces’

#45 Comment By Anas On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:35 pm

Imagine if a white person said ‘I hate walking down the street and only seeing Black or Asian faces’

I’d hate just seeing black or asian faces too, but since I haven’t been to Bradford or Brixton or somewhere like that, it’s not been my experience.

#46 Comment By Jagdeep On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:37 pm

Really? Would you? Weird.

Personally I don’t hate seeing anyones faces simply because of the race of them.

#47 Comment By Anas On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:37 pm

I have been to Pakistan tho, and I did miss seeing white and black people there.

#48 Comment By Jagdeep On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:38 pm

You should have carried some photos of white peoples faces with you to look at, when you got exhausted of brown faces.

#49 Comment By Anas On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:39 pm

Nah, it’s just nice to live somewhere cosmopolitan was all I meant, J. No need to twist everything I say.

#50 Comment By Jagdeep On 7th June, 2007 @ 4:40 pm

OK dude. That’s cool.

#51 Comment By Tahir On 7th June, 2007 @ 5:10 pm

Chris C

Lots of white people (with a few black soliders included) go about bombing Iraq under the name of War on Terror . I don’t scrutinise all white people and their interest in the rest of the world because of it.

Lots of white people over the years have committed racist attacks on large numbers of non-white people in the UK , I’ll have to go and look at the numbers from the national anti-racist alliance to see the stats but I can assure you they probably outnumber 2000.

These attacks takes place in every day situations outside bus stops, not in front of 24 hour news channels. But eveyrone knows they happen.

So I don’t assume all white people are racist , or dissect their motives on everything or question their right to belong, their citizenship.

Do you?

I prefer to see people as individuals.

Distraction from the fact that the certain govts would prefer to align and globe in ways that suit their image for resources.

They say it’s a jungle out there in international relations. I tend to agree.

#52 Comment By TheFriendlyInfidel On 7th June, 2007 @ 5:13 pm

I’d hate just seeing black or asian faces too, but since I haven’t been to Bradford or Brixton or somewhere like that, it’s not been my experience.

Hey I live in Brixton and I can assure you that mine is not the only white face. In fact it is very mixed :)

I do I walk past Gresham road mosque on the way to the tube and I see lots of full veils everyday, more than I did in Dubai or Qatar, but less than in Bahrain. The main difference I notice that when girls were wearing the Hijab in Dubai they smiled at me, here they seem often seem terrified.

I don’t know why they are scared of me, and I’ve no idea what they are screaming out of the speakers at Gresham road Mosque during the month of Ramadan, but from the tone I’m pretty sure that it isn’t peace and love and I suspect these two things are linked.

The bit I find funny about the local Mosque and the instence screaming from the speakers, is that it is not matched by the crowd, they just look rather bored.

TFI

#53 Comment By Soso On 7th June, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

Yeah, the Economist captions are also usually quite arch, and tend to reference aspects of popular culture in an in-jokey manner. But they’d not do something which might be misinterpreted as racist - particularly as they’re pro-immigration.

So the economist is pro-immigration?

Now, why on EARTH would these snooty, racist, starch-arsed white men be “pro-immigration”?

Do the editors and journalists own shares in the 1000s of cheap, filthy sweatshops springing up all over London?

Or do they just shill for them?

Enquiring minds want to know!

Sunny’s portrayal of the article’s tone as “Nazi Germany level” is a very stupid thing to assert, and an obscene insult to the TENS of millions murdered by National Socialism.

The alarmist tone of the article certainly won’t be countered by shrill exaggerations, now will it?

And if the discourse in the UK has reached *Nazi Germany* levels, as you so glibly assert Sunny, then why the hell aren’t you a lampshade?

#54 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

And your last sentence isn’t an even more utterly obscene insult to millions murdered by National Socialism? Fuck off.

#55 Comment By William On 7th June, 2007 @ 6:10 pm

“We pay them to breed like rabbits”, “I advocate the compulsorary sterilization of women from ethnic ‘minorities’ after their second child….”

appalling, sick, dehumanizing nazi claptrap!!

#56 Comment By William On 7th June, 2007 @ 6:14 pm

As a white person who is used to living in mixed areas I have found it strange for a short while during visiting a town which is all white. I quickly adjust however.

#57 Comment By William On 7th June, 2007 @ 6:30 pm

Latest Big Brother race row mmmmm!

So blatant!

Happens so soon after last one!

channel 4 seen this time to do something about it!

We all know now that Channel 4 won’t tolerate racism?

does it smell like something fishy or do I smell my own conspiracy bee buzzing in my bonnet?

#58 Comment By Ramiie On 7th June, 2007 @ 6:52 pm

The Daily Express is read mainly by the fascist rump so I shouldn’t worry about what it says on its front page. Owner Desmond is doing what he does best, making millions by pandering to the lowest common denominator, whether it is with his ridiculous soft core porn channels or with the Express.

Why would anyone buy the Express anyway, it really is a shit paper.

#59 Comment By Clairwil On 7th June, 2007 @ 7:02 pm

Oh it’s like Germany in the 30’s.

#60 Comment By Soso On 7th June, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

And your last sentence isn’t an even more utterly obscene insult to millions murdered by National Socialism? Fuck off.

You’re clearly not aware of how dangerous it is to portray trivial newspaper articles as being “Nazi level”.

By endlessly, endlessly equating such a murderous and disgusting ideology with two-bit articles published in two-bit newspapers by two-bit journalists, the whole concept of Nazism becomes banal and sanitised.

When we reach that point, the way will then be cleared for it’s forceful and triumphant return.

Why?

Because we’ve bandied the term around SO much, and with such joyous insouciance, that when we actually find ourselves in front of the genuine item, we’ll no longer even recognise it.

I’m just so tired of all of this.

Everyone’s a nazi these days, even Mary-fucking-Pickford.

The lampshade question, though shocking and vulgar, remains valid.

It was posed in an honest effort to put some bloody perspective on all of this and shake people back into the real world.

If you choose to kill bigoted flies with cannon-fire, Sid, then don’t come to me complaining you’ve no gunpowder when the real Gestaspo show up.

People complain about history revisionists trivialising the holocaust and have demanded, and rightly so, that such talk be criminalised.

Depicting the ‘tone’ of some dip-shit news item as “Nazi level” is, in my most humble opinion, a COMPLETE trivialisation of the murderous, racist hatred Nazism represents.

#61 Comment By humble.life On 7th June, 2007 @ 9:23 pm

If we “all went back to where we came from”, we’d have to fly to Nibiru.

Or was that Sir Ron Hubbards idea. Can’t remember.

#62 Comment By sid On 7th June, 2007 @ 9:30 pm

oh dear, poor old Soso.

I fear you this is “two-bit” issue for you because the Daily Express have gained your confidence by targetting Muslims. The problem is, if was up to you, the “Nazi level” would be impossibly high. What would be more comfortable for you, Bosnia-Herzogovina levels, circa 1991, hmmm?

#63 Comment By sunray On 7th June, 2007 @ 11:24 pm

sunny I am surprised that you are surprised by the papers comments.

we are quick to attack the British papers yet ignore the going ons in our own back garden!!

The BBC Asian Network Forum is full of racist terds (excuse the phrase) who likes nothing better then to troll through the Internet looking for petty negative News from India to make a post antiIndian antiHindu.
The forum is populated by incisive divisive comments.
Yet for a long time the BBC did nothing to rid of them. Neither did you sunny or anyone of the responsible DJs or moderators on the BBC did anything about it.

It was only when a threat to inform the police did they take notice.
Last week they put their foot down and are moderating all the posts by ‘Asians’ (who are the biggest racist spiteful thugs anywhere in my opinion) before posting them on the message boards.

Comment by Nihal on the Message Board after they started to moderate all posts before they went on the board.

‘WELL DONE MODS

we dont want, sme/nf and the rest run amock, n spoil the beauty of this board, by posting ant hindu/christian/gay/lesbian threads’

#64 Trackback By Radical Muslim On 8th June, 2007 @ 1:10 am

This is England…

This week the racist Daily Express blamed a ‘baby boom crisis’ on ethnic minorities, while Emily Parr has been evicted from Big Brother for using racist language.
Considering this in conjunction with all the bigoted fear surrounding Isl…

#65 Comment By Vikrant On 8th June, 2007 @ 1:17 am

Hey this story is in Birmingham Mail about a Sikh girl supposedly forced to convert to Islam….

[8] http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/news/tm_headline=police-guard-girl-%2Dforced-to-become-muslim%2D%26method=full%26objectid=19253457%26siteid=50002-name_page.html

Dunno if its true but they are thumping this all over neo-con blogs.

But s’pect she made it all up, to coverup her elopement with a Muslim guy!

#66 Comment By sunray On 8th June, 2007 @ 7:58 am

Oh and you want us to complain on the basis of
“Cite ‘Accuracy’ as the code that’s been breached.”

Im bringing this up again will do so again and again, but when that idiot MF Hussain painted inaacurate paintings, when he breached a code of conduct, when he offended the Hindus, you were shouting Freedom of this and that crap. Now you want to complain people to complain to the Daily Express!! Is it becuase he is offending Muslims? Its OK to offend Hindus.
There is double standards here, there always has been since the day you supported that moron.

#67 Comment By Rumbold On 8th June, 2007 @ 9:11 am

“that idiot MF Hussain painted inaacurate paintings”

The only paintings of MF Husain’s which seemed to have caused offence have been the ones of gods and goddesses. How can they be inaccurate, unless you know what all these deities look like in real life? Do you, Sunray?

#68 Comment By Refresh On 8th June, 2007 @ 9:48 am

Sunray

I thought the story was about an ethnic baby boom, not muslim?

Or would you rather all ethnic ‘issues’ are placed on muslims and all the positive aspects on hindus and sikhs?

#69 Comment By Refresh On 8th June, 2007 @ 10:43 am

Vikrant

Thanks for bringing #65 to our attention.

Sickening stuff. I dare say the poor girl had no idea what her little story would lead to. And as for the poor boy and his family - well I suspect they probably need protection as much as the girl.

And on a general note - lets not worry too much about the neo-cons. They don’t need much to get them rocking and rolling. Just waiting for HP to run the story, followed by an amendment to the Euston Manifesto.

#70 Comment By SajiniW On 8th June, 2007 @ 11:54 am

The BNP would want Desmond dead anyway - he’s a JEW!

#71 Comment By Billy On 8th June, 2007 @ 12:34 pm

“I thought the story was about an ethnic baby boom, not muslim?”

To be fair, I think the Express want you to think it’s about Muslims, if the pictures illustrating the article are anything to go by?

#72 Comment By Refresh On 8th June, 2007 @ 12:42 pm

“To be fair, I think the Express want you to think it’s about Muslims, if the pictures illustrating the article are anything to go by?”

Absolutely right. Hence my point to Sunray.

#73 Comment By Kismet Hardy On 8th June, 2007 @ 1:03 pm

Hey TFI,

I’ve just moved to Brixton. Well, Loughborough Junction anyhoo. Will you be my friend? I’ll be the guy standing in street corners hoping not to get ripped off

#74 Comment By sonia On 8th June, 2007 @ 1:48 pm

52. TFi - i hear you! hah hah bored and a ‘glazed’ look on the faces (indicating they are thinking about what to have for supper no doubt)

#75 Comment By Refresh On 8th June, 2007 @ 2:13 pm

Sonia

What exactly is it you hear?

#76 Comment By sonia On 8th June, 2007 @ 4:42 pm

Refresh - What exactly is it I hear ( you sound very grave when you ask that question)

“The bit I find funny about the local Mosque and the instence screaming from the speakers, is that it is not matched by the crowd, they just look rather bored.”

the looking bored bit is what i ‘hear’.

Any problems with this perception - do you find it offensive by any chance?

#77 Comment By Soso On 8th June, 2007 @ 4:46 pm

The problem is, if was up to you, the “Nazi level” would be impossibly high. What would be more comfortable for you, Bosnia-Herzogovina levels, circa 1991, hmmm?

Sid, I won’t back down.

The article was stupid, muddled and aimless. I’d certainly question the author’s motives for writing it, as well.

But from there to “Nazi level” is a bit of a stretch.

Nazism is the brainchild of a phsycopath who believed “superior” races should exterminate “inferior” ones. It is violent, murderous and anti-human.

All this article contains are intimations of bigotry.

It’s “aesthetics” are ugly and there is an undertone of intolerance.

I see no overt calls for mass-slaughter, and I see no signs of an attempt to portray ANY clearly identified ethno-religious group as *sub-human*.

Do you?

Sunny’s often quite good, but sometimes he can be full of it. Before posting his rant he should have breathed through the nose for a few minutes.

A question; you mentioned Muslims, why do you never exercise the same degree of intense scrutiny when it comes to parusing articles written by radical Islamists?

I’ll tell you why.

By bandying about “Nazi” and “fascist” with such careless, spoiled-brat abandon, you’ve lost the ability to recognise *far-right*, and to extract the salient points of supremacist ideologies, all of which are quite similar whether their proponents be black, brown or white….

In short, you’re are as muddled as the article.

#78 Comment By Refresh On 8th June, 2007 @ 5:14 pm

Sonia

I couldn’t decide whether it was the screaming or the glum faces, or even the fear.

Not offended, intrigued. In other words I don’t really understand you.

#79 Comment By Refresh On 8th June, 2007 @ 5:16 pm

Interested also to know why you hadn’t picked up the point TFI makes about the fear in the eyes of the girls wearing the hijab: “here they seem often seem terrified.”

#80 Comment By sid On 8th June, 2007 @ 5:19 pm

Soso

A question; you mentioned Muslims, why do you never exercise the same degree of intense scrutiny when it comes to parusing articles written by radical Islamists?

never say never, old bean. check my blog. I think you’ll find that I’ve been against the Jamaatis/Salafis/Jihadis in Bangladesh before you knew what a Muslim was, which was probably sometime around September 2001.

#81 Comment By sunray On 9th June, 2007 @ 12:22 am

Refresh
I take your point but my point stands about Hindu Muslim bias by Sunny on many of his posts here.

Rumbold you ask
“How can they be inaccurate, unless you know what all these deities look like in real life?”
Im sure you know the answer to that but let me put it in way you might understand.
If someone draws a painting of Jesus having sex with Mother Mary.
It doesn’t matter what Jesus looked like in real life, the fact is he has depicted this outrageous false inaccurate disgusting spiteful hurtful insightful painting of Jesus and Mary.
Nowhere in any relgious text would you find such an act! That makes it inaccurate.
Hussains paintings similar in depiction. But Im not going to discuss all that again here. You’ll just have to find and read the many archived articles here.

#82 Comment By Refresh On 9th June, 2007 @ 2:13 am

With regards the Express article, note the penultimate sentence:

“From 2001 to 2005, Sheffield’s population was boosted by 4,750 people from a variety of ethnic minorities – from Irish to African and from Chinese to Bangladeshi.”

They hate them all.

Get complaining.

#83 Comment By douglas clark On 9th June, 2007 @ 3:33 am

Refresh,

I think you are right. This is an opening salvo in exclusivity. Sunny was quite right to highlight it for the cheap nonsense it is. And it seems, correct me if I am wrong, to be about immigrants generally. Obviously from an Express perspective, you’d chuck Muslims up there to be mugged. Easy target, they are all responsible for 7/7. Obvious, innit.

But the Expresses’ agenda seems to be inclusive, in absolute terms. No-one should be allowed into this green and pleasant land. Is that not what they are advocating?

I am white, if I wash often enough, and I find this offensive crap. There is something completely wrong with newspapers attempting to divide people into rival factions. What they have let off is a xenophobic cluster bomb.

It is not my experience of living in this country. I happen to think, some folk would debate the ‘thinking’ bit, but usually, in the main, everyone is OK. Sure Muslims have extremists, who doesn’t?

What exercises us about that is the suicide bombing. That has got to stop, but for the Daily Express to even hint that Muslims in general - see the photo - are of that ilk is frankly evil. Babies are babies, and will grow up to be whatever they say they are.

Maybe become non Muslims, or folk that take their religion by the balls and have a Reformation of it’s more pathetic ‘men are always right, women are less than us’ nonsense.

That’s what babies can do. They are not, except in very sick societies, something we control.

#84 Comment By douglas clark On 9th June, 2007 @ 9:45 am

A question for you PP aficionados out there. Is it not more important that we see what we have in common rather than what sets us apart? Like what benefit is there in all this division? Follow the money, or follow the power. Who gains from it?

I am, uncomfortably, reminded of Shylocks speech in the ‘Merchant of Venice’:

Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, heal’d by the same means,
warm’d and cool’d by the same winter and summer
as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us,
do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that.
If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility?
Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his
sufferance be by Christian example? Why, revenge.
The villainy you teach me, I will execute,
and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.

Substitute the word Jew for your ethnicity of choice, vadeshi or desi, whatever, and it rings true for everyones’ experience of folk who think like that.

This, I submit, is what is messed up with the human race on planet Earth. Particularily the revenge segment of the speech above. Grievance we can take into our hearts, never to be let free. Difference, it seems to me, is at best superficial, or at worst an agenda led power trip, and a means to an end for the sadder aspects of our psyche. We all have an angel on one shoulder and a devil on t’other.

Maybe.

#85 Comment By Rumbold On 9th June, 2007 @ 1:05 pm

“We all have an angel on one shoulder and a devil on t’other.”

Muslims have an angel on each shoulder.

#86 Comment By sunray On 9th June, 2007 @ 8:08 pm

Refresh
“From 2001 to 2005, Sheffield’s population was boosted by 4,750 people from a variety of ethnic minorities – from Irish to African and from Chinese to Bangladeshi.”

Get complaining.”

what’s there to complain about?
What happened to the great Freedom of Expression??

Well at least you understand that Freedom of Speech is not all good!!

This is what Freedom means to some people.
A new group has reared its ugly head to offend the Hindus this month. Im sure you’ll hear about it soon.

“The June issue of a popular US magazine that allegedly depicts Hindu god Ganesha holding an alcoholic beverage in each hand and deity Hanuman in an obscene pose has drawn the ire of many Hindus in the country.”

Its disgusting what people will do to get attention or denigrate a religion.
I hope sunny wont be making petitions to protect such obscene!!!

#87 Comment By sid On 9th June, 2007 @ 8:14 pm

Muslims have an angel on each shoulder.

Mine left a long time ago in search for better job prospects and the chance to buy a Datsun Sunny on hire purchase.


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