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		<title>By: simon benton</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon benton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ive seen the site the muslims call british oppression and i thinka better name for it is muslim crap i am a islamophobe the muslims all they do is complain kill and try to change britan for the worst and the goverment seems to be bowing downg to there commands when i left my school we had been forced to attend islamic teaching lessions even though i and many others protested because we are catholic but all that happend is that we got suspended because we where being racist and the head was to scared toshallange the view.also over £8000 was spent of schools money to change the position of the toilets so they didn&#039;t face mecca that money should of gon on new I.C.T equicment for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive seen the site the muslims call british oppression and i thinka better name for it is muslim crap i am a islamophobe the muslims all they do is complain kill and try to change britan for the worst and the goverment seems to be bowing downg to there commands when i left my school we had been forced to attend islamic teaching lessions even though i and many others protested because we are catholic but all that happend is that we got suspended because we where being racist and the head was to scared toshallange the view.also over £8000 was spent of schools money to change the position of the toilets so they didn&#8217;t face mecca that money should of gon on new I.C.T equicment for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Radical Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-66343</link>
		<dc:creator>Radical Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 20:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;British Oppression...&lt;/strong&gt;

	As-Salaamu ‘alaikum.  Things are going well here and I have some photos I plan to upload shortly and his will probably be my last post until I return.  Since this blogger is another one in the long line of Islamophobes trying to paint this as a &amp;#82...</description>
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<p>	As-Salaamu ‘alaikum.  Things are going well here and I have some photos I plan to upload shortly and his will probably be my last post until I return.  Since this blogger is another one in the long line of Islamophobes trying to paint this as a &amp;#82&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Twining or Black in Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-66268</link>
		<dc:creator>Twining or Black in Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 13:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I assume that a fundamental right wing element is behind this proposed March in relation to British oppression? What exactly is British oppression? 

I accept racsim might be a part of this but if some people, fundamentalists, want to totally live outside the rules and have &quot;own states&quot; in parts of this country, then even I am lost. And I often get lost!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I assume that a fundamental right wing element is behind this proposed March in relation to British oppression? What exactly is British oppression? </p>
<p>I accept racsim might be a part of this but if some people, fundamentalists, want to totally live outside the rules and have &#8220;own states&#8221; in parts of this country, then even I am lost. And I often get lost!</p>
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		<title>By: errol</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-66207</link>
		<dc:creator>errol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 09:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the BNP website have warned all members and followers not to counter demo. also they will not condone or justify any group claiming or carrying banners or BNP paraphanalia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the BNP website have warned all members and followers not to counter demo. also they will not condone or justify any group claiming or carrying banners or BNP paraphanalia.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-66167</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HT&#039;s made it clear they&#039;re nothing to do with this

http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/news/tm_headline=muslim-party-in-posters-denial%26method=full%26objectid=19195934%26siteid=50002-name_page.html

Muslim party in posters denial

A MUSLIM political party has distanced itself from a rash of offensive posters that have sprung up in Birmingham.

The radical group Hizb-ut-Tahrir Britain, which translates as The Party of the Liberation, has condemned the fly-posting in Alum Rock, saying it has no link to the propaganda distressing local people.

But Dr Imran Waheed, a spokesman for Hizb-ut-Tahrir Britain, said: &quot;We have no link whatsoever to the material that has been fly-posted in Birmingham.

&quot;We believe that the posting of such material damages community relations and does nothing to create harmony between the city&#039;s residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HT&#8217;s made it clear they&#8217;re nothing to do with this</p>
<p><a href="http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/news/tm_headline=muslim-party-in-posters-denial%26method=full%26objectid=19195934%26siteid=50002-name_page.html" rel="nofollow">http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/news/tm_headline=muslim-party-in-posters-denial%26method=full%26objectid=19195934%26siteid=50002-name_page.html</a></p>
<p>Muslim party in posters denial</p>
<p>A MUSLIM political party has distanced itself from a rash of offensive posters that have sprung up in Birmingham.</p>
<p>The radical group Hizb-ut-Tahrir Britain, which translates as The Party of the Liberation, has condemned the fly-posting in Alum Rock, saying it has no link to the propaganda distressing local people.</p>
<p>But Dr Imran Waheed, a spokesman for Hizb-ut-Tahrir Britain, said: &#8220;We have no link whatsoever to the material that has been fly-posted in Birmingham.</p>
<p>&#8220;We believe that the posting of such material damages community relations and does nothing to create harmony between the city&#8217;s residents.</p>
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		<title>By: Who is behind the "British Oppression" demo? &#171; The &#8216;Islamist&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-66162</link>
		<dc:creator>Who is behind the "British Oppression" demo? &#171; The &#8216;Islamist&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] demo, the organisers have tried to conceal who is really behind it. Although, a few have speculated that the Islamist group HT may be behind it, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be their style and in any [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] demo, the organisers have tried to conceal who is really behind it. Although, a few have speculated that the Islamist group HT may be behind it, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be their style and in any [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal Haque</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65871</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal Haque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not HT - it is Al-Ghurabaa who have organised it. Their magazine at http://www.theislamist.co.uk/ links to the British Oppression website. Also when I first saw stickers for this demo up I did a google search for the website and the domain name &quot;British Oppression&quot; initially had a line on it saying the &quot;website of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammad&quot; - this now seems to have disappeared from the google search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not HT &#8211; it is Al-Ghurabaa who have organised it. Their magazine at <a href="http://www.theislamist.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theislamist.co.uk/</a> links to the British Oppression website. Also when I first saw stickers for this demo up I did a google search for the website and the domain name &#8220;British Oppression&#8221; initially had a line on it saying the &#8220;website of Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammad&#8221; &#8211; this now seems to have disappeared from the google search.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65867</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 13:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:

The bulk of social problems that hinder Muslims in British society are self contained structural and cultural issues like the lack of education and employment FOR MUSLIM WOMEN which cannot be blamed on British society</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:</p>
<p>The bulk of social problems that hinder Muslims in British society are self contained structural and cultural issues like the lack of education and employment FOR MUSLIM WOMEN which cannot be blamed on British society</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65866</link>
		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 13:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a myth that has arisen in our country -- the myth that Muslims are oppressed in British society. It is a myth that has been fostered in many ways and by many people, and it is a myth without the dignity of a whiff of truth --- it&#039;s a myth in the way that the Emperor&#039;s New Clothes was a myth.

The myth that Muslims are perpetually victimised, oppressed, and persecuted in Britain has as its base formation the politics of the old &#039;anti-racist&#039; Left along with the toxic brew of Bunglawala-ism, that is, Muslim activist organisations with a deeply flawed paranoid ideological orientation to constantly claim victimhood and leverage attention and visibility by heightening resentment amongst Muslims. This chimera can be seen for what it is by the ignition point for Muslim political power in Britain --- the Rushdie affair, which became emblematic of Islam&#039;s &#039;victimisation&#039; in Britain.

Add to this the Madeline Bunting saps, the Channel 4 Tristans who set aside 5% of their annual budget to make &#039;hard hitting&#039; drama documentaries about how Muslims are on the verge of being sent to gas chambers, directed by Hampstead luvvies, and you have a really toxic brew, a fog of distorting mythology that obscures the fact that rather than being a persecuted and oppressed minority, Muslims living in Britain are the most priveliged and blessed members of the &#039;ummah&#039;, living in a society that guarantees their freedom of religion, equality of opportunity, an education system that is amongst the best in the world, a liberal and tolerant society that safeguards their rights and adjusts itself to accomodate their needs.

The bulk of social problems that hinder Muslims in British society are self contained structural and cultural issues like the lack of education and employment which cannot be blamed on British society. Muslims have to reform these aspects of their lives to empower themselves as other minority groups (particularly Indians and historically, Jews) have done.

In the meantime, protests like this will have a certain wider resonance amongst the Bunting-Bunglawala myth makers and myopics, the victimhood mongerers and the Cheese and Onion Conceptual Framework seekers, whose need for an exceptional framework rests on, and adds to, the mythology and fog surrounding the true nature of British Muslims and their place in our society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a myth that has arisen in our country &#8212; the myth that Muslims are oppressed in British society. It is a myth that has been fostered in many ways and by many people, and it is a myth without the dignity of a whiff of truth &#8212; it&#8217;s a myth in the way that the Emperor&#8217;s New Clothes was a myth.</p>
<p>The myth that Muslims are perpetually victimised, oppressed, and persecuted in Britain has as its base formation the politics of the old &#8216;anti-racist&#8217; Left along with the toxic brew of Bunglawala-ism, that is, Muslim activist organisations with a deeply flawed paranoid ideological orientation to constantly claim victimhood and leverage attention and visibility by heightening resentment amongst Muslims. This chimera can be seen for what it is by the ignition point for Muslim political power in Britain &#8212; the Rushdie affair, which became emblematic of Islam&#8217;s &#8216;victimisation&#8217; in Britain.</p>
<p>Add to this the Madeline Bunting saps, the Channel 4 Tristans who set aside 5% of their annual budget to make &#8216;hard hitting&#8217; drama documentaries about how Muslims are on the verge of being sent to gas chambers, directed by Hampstead luvvies, and you have a really toxic brew, a fog of distorting mythology that obscures the fact that rather than being a persecuted and oppressed minority, Muslims living in Britain are the most priveliged and blessed members of the &#8216;ummah&#8217;, living in a society that guarantees their freedom of religion, equality of opportunity, an education system that is amongst the best in the world, a liberal and tolerant society that safeguards their rights and adjusts itself to accomodate their needs.</p>
<p>The bulk of social problems that hinder Muslims in British society are self contained structural and cultural issues like the lack of education and employment which cannot be blamed on British society. Muslims have to reform these aspects of their lives to empower themselves as other minority groups (particularly Indians and historically, Jews) have done.</p>
<p>In the meantime, protests like this will have a certain wider resonance amongst the Bunting-Bunglawala myth makers and myopics, the victimhood mongerers and the Cheese and Onion Conceptual Framework seekers, whose need for an exceptional framework rests on, and adds to, the mythology and fog surrounding the true nature of British Muslims and their place in our society.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 12:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mind you, I often do wonder if people like Jamal aren&#039;t actually 50 year old neo-nazis, trying to perpetuate racist stereotypes of muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mind you, I often do wonder if people like Jamal aren&#8217;t actually 50 year old neo-nazis, trying to perpetuate racist stereotypes of muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65864</link>
		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 12:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It certainly has the look and feel of Al Muhaj. But the Whois info is odd. 

Somebody call the contact numbers and ask who they are. 

North England: 07934 265 919
South England:  07946 806 236</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It certainly has the look and feel of Al Muhaj. But the Whois info is odd. </p>
<p>Somebody call the contact numbers and ask who they are. </p>
<p>North England: 07934 265 919<br />
South England:  07946 806 236</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65833</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 10:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whois appears to be on to something and I suspect this is a hoax.  I can understand wanting to register the website under a false address, but choosing &quot;Little Green Terrace&quot; as the false one?  I don&#039;t buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whois appears to be on to something and I suspect this is a hoax.  I can understand wanting to register the website under a false address, but choosing &#8220;Little Green Terrace&#8221; as the false one?  I don&#8217;t buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Saqib</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65822</link>
		<dc:creator>Saqib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 08:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh...never knew Britain was that bad!

I think they probably are former elements associated with Al-Muhajiroun, along with other rabble rousing elements. 

A few years back, i was managing director of a major muslim magazine, and as part of our drive to recruit new talent we had organised a writing competition...with winners being presented at a ceremony. This was in the same week as the general election, and one of our panelists was from the MCB. Whilst one of our employees was distributing flyers he was actually phyisically prevented from doing so - things got nasty. The following week it happended and i had to scare them of - quite astonishing. 

Now i don&#039;t know the exact nature of this demo, however if they are the same elements, and if they do behave in similar unacceptable ways then i do hope police make moves. 

There is a clear difference between being passionate, committed and orderly in the demonstration in one&#039;s views, and behaving in a thug like manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh&#8230;never knew Britain was that bad!</p>
<p>I think they probably are former elements associated with Al-Muhajiroun, along with other rabble rousing elements. </p>
<p>A few years back, i was managing director of a major muslim magazine, and as part of our drive to recruit new talent we had organised a writing competition&#8230;with winners being presented at a ceremony. This was in the same week as the general election, and one of our panelists was from the MCB. Whilst one of our employees was distributing flyers he was actually phyisically prevented from doing so &#8211; things got nasty. The following week it happended and i had to scare them of &#8211; quite astonishing. </p>
<p>Now i don&#8217;t know the exact nature of this demo, however if they are the same elements, and if they do behave in similar unacceptable ways then i do hope police make moves. </p>
<p>There is a clear difference between being passionate, committed and orderly in the demonstration in one&#8217;s views, and behaving in a thug like manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Duc De Nemours</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65818</link>
		<dc:creator>Duc De Nemours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 07:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that douglas is right.</description>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 05:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kulvinder,

There was nothing &#039;wrong&#039; with Jamal&#039;s original post. Click on the link through his name though. Then tell me he&#039;s agenda free. That is a straightforward appeal to Muslims to see themselves as victims, no matter what. Shit stirrer of the first order, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kulvinder,</p>
<p>There was nothing &#8216;wrong&#8217; with Jamal&#8217;s original post. Click on the link through his name though. Then tell me he&#8217;s agenda free. That is a straightforward appeal to Muslims to see themselves as victims, no matter what. Shit stirrer of the first order, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Kulvinder</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65810</link>
		<dc:creator>Kulvinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 00:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see anything &#039;wrong&#039; with jamal&#039;s original post.</description>
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		<title>By: soru</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65807</link>
		<dc:creator>soru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 00:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039; it looks increasingly like Al-Mujjies&#039;

Judging by the domain registration info posted above, it may well be that the whole demo, not just the counter-demo, is a BNP stunt. Or perhaps it was a Mujjle pretending to be from the BNP, or some third party just trying to start a fight.

Ultimately, there is no meaningful distinction between the real al-Muj and a BNP stunt anyway - if either side didn&#039;t exist, the other would create a fake version of them to justify it&#039;s own existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216; it looks increasingly like Al-Mujjies&#8217;</p>
<p>Judging by the domain registration info posted above, it may well be that the whole demo, not just the counter-demo, is a BNP stunt. Or perhaps it was a Mujjle pretending to be from the BNP, or some third party just trying to start a fight.</p>
<p>Ultimately, there is no meaningful distinction between the real al-Muj and a BNP stunt anyway &#8211; if either side didn&#8217;t exist, the other would create a fake version of them to justify it&#8217;s own existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Incognito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Incognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 23:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief.. Oppressed???? Is this for real.  
What next?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief.. Oppressed???? Is this for real.<br />
What next?!</p>
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		<title>By: whois</title>
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		<dc:creator>whois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 23:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something fishy - that site is owned by a guy with a common bangladeshi name, with an address with a first part the name of a well known anti-muslim web-site, and second is &#039;white&#039;

Neither road exists on goggle maps for manchester, and the postcode given is for manchester airport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something fishy &#8211; that site is owned by a guy with a common bangladeshi name, with an address with a first part the name of a well known anti-muslim web-site, and second is &#8216;white&#8217;</p>
<p>Neither road exists on goggle maps for manchester, and the postcode given is for manchester airport.</p>
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		<title>By: lithcol</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1153/comment-page-1#comment-65801</link>
		<dc:creator>lithcol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 23:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this demo a photo opportunity for the police? Can&#039;t really see Hut or derivatives thereof getting permission to wear hoodies and display placards telling infidels to p*** off unless it is a photo opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this demo a photo opportunity for the police? Can&#8217;t really see Hut or derivatives thereof getting permission to wear hoodies and display placards telling infidels to p*** off unless it is a photo opportunity.</p>
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