I really hate that ‘all modern music and dance culture was stolen from black music and dance culture’ arguement.

However, I can see the intelligence behind it. 50-60 years ago, Black people had by their very nature, more beligerence and irreverence towards the heavily regimented social, cultural, and artistic confines that whites were crying out to be liberated from. So true enough, as far as pop culture is concerned, in Britain, it was Jamaican black pop culture that opened the door for the mainstream pop culture embraced by native Brits.

I think it is also fair to say that black people are on the whole more ‘physically’ talented than people from other racial backgrounds. They are better athletes, they are inherently much more intune with bodily rythm, the structure of the African mouth/throat/vocal chords gives them much more powerful voices. It is true…I used to go out with a black girl….amazing voice she had….and she never even considered herself a singer, it was just natural.

So I beleive the arguement is not without substance. However, I would rather be a Jew pointing out that a disproportionately high number of the worlds leading intellectuals and scientific geniuses were of Jewish origins, than a person of African descent highlighting that ‘his people’ were at the forefront of pioneering an element of human culture predominantly focused towards adolescents and young adults.

‘white people stole rock and roll from black people’

‘black people stole the use of classical white instruments from white people to make jazz’ etc

“Rock and roll, our folk music”

Rock and roll while having expressive and stylistic elements from black culture is tonal diatonic which of course can be traced back to good old Pythagoras.
it seems to be more of a syncresis of cultures.

Blacks make great singers and even better dancers?

Funny that.

Take any propaganda film from WW2, be it an allied film or nazi film, and you could apply the very same argument. i.e. “Its not about the politics…it is about the plight of the heroine”

I am sorry, but leaving the blatant politcally correct overtones of the film to one side, this film just made my skin crawl. The way the characters related to one another was totally unreal and cringe inducing…all the cuddling and caring….it just wasnt the done thing in pre MDMA Britain…and it aint the done thing now….except when kids are on E.

Oh yes….and the bit about the psycho racist hard knut NOT GETTING THE GIRL (which proves racist angst has its roots in some kind of rejection…..apparently) …..I think in a rough area of any British city…..the psycho hard knut has fanny dripping all over him….regardless of how unpleasant a personality he may have…..trust me…..this is the cae on every harsh council housing scheme and every rough market town across the UK.

Good films are

Donnie Darko (spoke to the heart of the maladjusted misfit in us all)
Natural Born Killers (stylish and thrilling cultural satire)
Trainspotting (Witty rendition of an excellent British novel…..a real British film classic.

Sort it out please.

The inportant factor here is that this is some boys Story. made in to a film.

It may not be your experience of the 80’s England and it may not have been the case for many people but it was for this story so just accept it.

Don’t let your politics influence your ability to critique this story. I’d be interested to know what films you think are great Bob.

I am not commenting from the position of an English Nationalist, I am commenting from the position of someone who reacts badly to having his intelligence insulted.

My mind is my own my mind and I do not take kindly on any attempts to shepherd my thinking nor to being swindled out of £7 to go and sit through an hour half long political correctness brainwashing session. Had it been theatre, I would have been hurling rotten veg at the actors saving a big lump of solid turnip for Shane Meadows head himself.

Starts of giving a wildly inaccurate and heavily glamourised account of the skinhead movement….all about bonding….hugging….kissing….sharing…..carin g….tolerance….feeling sorry for those less foruntate than themselves….wishing to make the world a better place…..albeit through the medium of smashing things up and underage smoking and drinking…even a spot of paedophilia although thankfully it was the ‘right’ way around…(overager was female)..

BUT THEN….the BIG BAD NASTY National Front get involved….at which point, most of the gang break away from the national front all except the groups social weakling and the heroine of the film who has pent up anger due to the death of his father in the Falklands…(which of course proves indesputably that it is only cowards and those with a chip on there shoulders who would ever subscribe to far right politics)

Anyway…to cut to the chase….English or British nationalism or patriotism is apparently a product of misguided angst and frustration displaced onto any vulnerable group or person who happens to get in the way of it. The only reason that anyone may have non-PC attitudes or be Pro-English is because they got knocked-back from the lady of their dreams and had a bad upbringing.

However, fortunately their is a solution should you be fortunate enough to realise the error of your thinking. By simply throwing your nations flag into the sea, you can put all the negative non-PC values that being proud of your nation, racial background amounts to and the consequent racism, safely behind you in preparation for a happy clappy multicultural society with the added bonus of potential conversion to Islam.

Until you have renounced any sentiment of national pride, burned your countries flag, and converted to Islam, then I am afraid that you are a frustrated bitter twisted soul who cant score with chicks, therefore expressing your misguided angst through being proud of your country and heritage….oh yes…and by hating ‘Coons’ and ‘Pakis’

NONSENSE!

This is England is a film about skinheads in the English Midlands in the early 1980s, written and directed by the British director Shane Meadows (interviewed here) and set mostly on a council estate which turns out to be in Nottingham, although no refe…

this film is one of my all time faviorites! if you havent seen it and you like the realism of This is England then it is a must see. its been on film4 all week but i dont know if it’s still showing.

Shane Meadows is the best British filmmaker of his generation. I hope that one day a British Indian filmmaker can emerge to tell our stories with the same brilliance, art and soul that Shane has.