BBC’s Jade Goody shame


by Sunny
20th April, 2007 at 1:44 pm    

Well, now we know that BBC television executives will sink to any depth to further their ratings.

Jade Goody is set to make a TV comeback – talking about her part in the ‘Celebrity Big Brother’ racism row. The shamed reality TV star – who saw her popularity plummet after being accused of bullying Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty in the Big Brother house – will speak about the experience on BBC1′s ‘You Can’t Fire Me, I’m Famous’ this summer.

A source told Britain’s The Sun newspaper: “Jade was beginning to think her bad luck would never end. But getting on this show will do her good. It’s her chance to tell her side of the story – without anyone telling her how to say it or what her ‘media strategy’ should be.” [LifeStyleExtra]

Now who is willing to bet that the ‘source’ was a BBC executive or someone from her management team praying her career gets back on track and delivers the ratings?

What kind of a message is the BBC giving out? That you can be an obnoxious, racist bully on television (and society) but if you pull in the ratings then you can find salvation through our wonderful public service broadcaster. I have a hunch they dreamed up the show after trying to find a way to get Jade Goody back on their screens.

Not only is this the epitome of trash TV, but it is insulting to ethnic minorities that our public service broadcaster is trying to help Jade Goody get her ‘media career’ back on track despite her behaviour. Isn’t this going to simply legitimise casual racism and bullying? I think it’s time to dig out those BBC executive effigies. I’m going to have fun with this…


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  1. Leon — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:49 pm  

    Oh god..not this again…

  2. sonia — on 20th April, 2007 at 2:00 pm  

    media celebrity worship is hardly the bbc’s invention.

  3. Sid Love — on 20th April, 2007 at 2:31 pm  

    Great news! This means racists can be rehabilitated if they’re paid enough money and suck enough TV-executive cock.

  4. Mark Anderson — on 20th April, 2007 at 2:40 pm  

    I think it’s a disgrace that we have anti bullying programs, yet the BBC feel the need to give a bully and chance to lie her way through an interview blaming everyone but herself!!!!!!

  5. fiz — on 20th April, 2007 at 2:43 pm  

    who bloody cares what she thinks!

  6. Kismet Hardy — on 20th April, 2007 at 3:07 pm  

    Leon stop jumping on the Jade Goody not important bandwagon :-)

    (Sorry)

  7. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 3:23 pm  

    All that BB nonsense was nonsense, storm in a tea cup big deal who cares. Personally I don’t think what she said was especially racist, she was using race as a way to hurt someone that she didn’t like. That’s not the same as disliking ever Asian person on the planet is it?

    For instance, if I said “she is a fat ugly bitch”, that doesn’t mean I’m fatist. Jade Goodie is fatist.

    Ho ho ho.

    Yes I call her a ho three times.

    I don’t dislike her because she is stupid, vicious, uneducated and is an aspirational figure for the uneducated white trash in this country.

    Compared to that her ‘racism’ seems rather bland, and frankly for a racist she isn’t very good at it, the BNP or the KKK wouldn’t be impressed.

    TFI

  8. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 3:24 pm  

    whoops edit attack, should read:

    I dislike her because she is stupid, vicious, uneducated and is an aspirational figure for the uneducated white trash in this country.

    TFI

  9. Kismet Hardy — on 20th April, 2007 at 3:38 pm  

    It’s sickening how she ruined Shilpa. If she hadn’t destroyed poor Shilpa’s esteem so badly she wouldn’t disrespect her body so much as to let Richard Gere paw her in that shameful way. If it’s not too bold a statement to make, Jade Goody killed Shilpa Shetty. Look into her eyes and you can tell she’d dead inside. What has poor Shilpa left to live for? Nothing. Nothing at all.

  10. Robert — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:21 pm  

    Yeah, yeah, not wishing to brag or anything, but I knew this was going to happen.

    And not wishing to turn this into an open thread, but: Nothing on Ash and Abhishek, Sunny?

  11. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:24 pm  

    KH – I edited your statement before someone takes it seriously…

    Robert, yeah.. but the BBC? Shame.

  12. William — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:25 pm  

    Jade seemed to be the least racist of some of the inmates of the house. But perhaps because she got into a slanging match and was loud and coarse the focus is on her. She would never be my type of person but people should be given a second chance if they can show they have changed or also a chance to tell their side of the story.

  13. Chairwoman — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:26 pm  

    This one will run and run

  14. Leon — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:44 pm  

    Leon stop jumping on the Jade Goody not important bandwagon

    :D

  15. sonia — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:45 pm  

    whats the big deal anyway the world won’t end if jade is back on telly.

  16. sonia — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:46 pm  

    and i echo robert again.. let’s go full-hog with the celebrity worship and hear what ash and abhi are upto..

  17. Katy Newton — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:48 pm  

    Leon is on Facebook!!!

    Sunny isn’t. I think that is remiss of him. Bad Sunny.

  18. Leon — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:54 pm  

    Leon is on Facebook!!!

    Sunny isn’t. I think that is remiss of him. Bad Sunny.

    Er talk about thread derail!:D You gonna add me or what?!

  19. sonia — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:57 pm  

    are you on facebook katy?

  20. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 5:16 pm  

    Kismet, that is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen you right!

    TFI

  21. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 5:26 pm  

    FFS “write” TFI its “write” …

    Good lord, people will think that you are a dislecix … displexic … dyslecic … dyslaxc … idiot. They will think that you are an idiot.

    TTI FIT TIF …

    arrrgghhhh!!!!

  22. Ramiie — on 20th April, 2007 at 5:49 pm  

    I like Jade Goody. There is a refreshing unpretentiousness about her which reminds me of a few salt-of-the-earths I grew up with. And I don’t think she is a racist – she is part Black and after all you dont grow up with asymetrical features (lol) without understanding the pain of alienation and not belonging,er, social disenfranchisment – which is what racists seek to do. In fact I think it’s Shilpi’s pretensions which provoked the verbal onslaugt. I personally felt she needed a wake up call after feigining that she did not know who Berry Gordy was. I am sure if she was aked she would have said that she knew about Princess Di, but did not know who Micheal Jackson was. There was definitely something iffi about this Bollywood Princess.

    Indians are hardly above racism. In fact, they have it enshrined in the culture – although it goes by a different name..caste. Picklers have short memories..not so long ago, the Great Sunny himself was campaigning against a Bollywood actresss who made a vile vacist remark about my African people.

    I think the Anti-Jade bandwagon is being driven by people who do not like the sun of publicity to shine on the kinds of things that are meant earnestly when said in public. Jade is a mere innocent. Give her a break, ye hypocrites.

  23. Jamie Dowling — on 20th April, 2007 at 6:00 pm  

    This is one example of the reason why I no longer watch television and have disconnected all receiving equipment so I no longer have to pay for a tv licence.

  24. Sid Love — on 20th April, 2007 at 6:35 pm  

    Indians are hardly above racism. In fact, they have it enshrined in the culture – although it goes by a different name..caste. Picklers have short memories..not so long ago, the Great Sunny himself was campaigning against a Bollywood actresss who made a vile vacist remark about my African people.

    That’s probably the most prodigiously stupid statement I have ever read on PP.

  25. Don — on 20th April, 2007 at 6:43 pm  

    It’s a contender; but now that G. Tingey is gracing us with his presence, there’s some serious competition.

  26. Rumbold — on 20th April, 2007 at 7:16 pm  

    Privatize the BBC. Then we will not have to pay for it.

    Ramiie is right (for once) when he says:
    “Indians are hardly above racism. In fact, they have it enshrined in the culture – although it goes by a different name..caste”.

    Obviously a generalization, and not applicable to anyone here, but many dalits and OBCs are still treated terribly in India, not because of their abilities but because of who they were born to. Not too far away from the standard definition of racism.

  27. Rumbold — on 20th April, 2007 at 7:26 pm  

    And the BBC giving Jade Goody publicity and money is a disgrace, but hardly suprising.

  28. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 7:34 pm  

    This is one example of the reason why I no longer watch television and have disconnected all receiving equipment so I no longer have to pay for a tv licence.

    I never open my front door and keep the volume set low.

    That’s probably the most prodigiously stupid statement I have ever read on PP.

    … and that is up against some strong competition.

    TFI

  29. Maxine — on 20th April, 2007 at 8:03 pm  

    I am so offended by this. Why should I have to pay for this to happen. She spouts racist rubbish on national TV and I HAVE TO PAY to for her TV rehabilitation. If this is true and it happens I will without £1 from my TV license payment.

    I refuse to give that woman my hard earned cash.

  30. Kulvinder — on 20th April, 2007 at 8:08 pm  

    Indians are hardly above racism. In fact, they have it enshrined in the culture – although it goes by a different name..caste.

    That doesn’t make any sense, theres bigotry based on caste but saying its racism by another name is absurd.

  31. Sid — on 20th April, 2007 at 8:17 pm  

    Rumbold and Ramiee: Indians, and I use that term to mean the race, are certainly not above racism but caste is a social construct that involves Indians only and does not extend beyond the Indian race. So how can caste, abuse-ridden though it is, be the reason for why Indians are racist? Would dearly like to know.

  32. Don — on 20th April, 2007 at 8:36 pm  

    I thought the furore was over her shagging said Jesus.
    The idea of a black Jesus is hardly ground-breaking, indeed fairly plausible. After all (to steal a gag from New Nation), he called everybody ‘brother’, liked Gospel, and couldn’t get a fair trial.

  33. Rumbold — on 20th April, 2007 at 8:48 pm  

    My original point Kulvinder was that Ramiie’s linking of caste to race was not as stupid as some made out. I recognize that they are not the same, but they both arise from a victim’s inherent qualities, rather than their actions/views. I think that we may have to agree to disagree. Have a nice weekend.

  34. Sid — on 20th April, 2007 at 8:49 pm  

    Don, I think you like the idea of shagging and black being in the same sentence. I know I do.

  35. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:34 pm  

    Ramiee you’re still hanging around like a bad smell? I thought I told you to go away?

    If you want to carry on posting here first you have to apologise to Chairwoman. Then you have to agree to follow our rules of civility. If not, I will simply ban you as I did Amir. Its no skin off my back and frnakly I doubt anyone is going to miss you here.
    So.. lets start with an admission of your bad behaviour towards our resident aunty CW, and we can then start with a somewhat cleaner slate. Or you’re out.

  36. El Cid — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:41 pm  

    Ramiie
    You’re from Jamaica right? So have you investigated your genetic makeup? (Not that I have a serious point to make, but then provocation is a simple art)

  37. Ramiie — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:49 pm  

    OK Chairwoman.

    I may have pressed the trigger to fast in your case.

    Ramiie will eat a thin slice of humble pie.

  38. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:49 pm  

    Please, do not humour trolls. I will not tolerate people who abuse our comments policy.

  39. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:53 pm  

    Ramiie. There is a word beginning with S. Please use it. It’s not that difficult.

    And kindly also accept you will have to maintain civil conversation here if you want to participate. This is a blog for discussion, and it loses its purpose if people come here simply to abuse each other.

  40. El Cid — on 20th April, 2007 at 10:06 pm  

    Actually, there was a serious point. Racism, particularly extreme forms, needs to be challenged and ridiculed at all times, whatever its colour. But I’ll keep my powder dry.

  41. Chairwoman — on 20th April, 2007 at 10:06 pm  

    Ramiie – We all have hard words for each other here sometimes, but nobody pretends to be what they’re not, and we all respect each other’s views, no matter how we disagree with them.

    Thank you for eating that thin slice of cake.

    And LiberalFascist probably describes me well, but not in the way you meant it.

    CW

  42. Ramiie — on 20th April, 2007 at 10:18 pm  

    Sunny…

    your gaff

    your rules

    respect!

    Ramiie has left building……

  43. El Cid — on 20th April, 2007 at 10:23 pm  

    shame (and I’m not being sarcastic)

  44. Chairwoman — on 20th April, 2007 at 10:28 pm  

    I’m sure he’ll be back.

  45. El Cid — on 21st April, 2007 at 10:37 am  

    I do think you need to rethink the liberalfascist labelling though, coz I don’t think it works and confuses your apparent message, regardless of whether I violently oppose it or not.
    If you mean being intolerant about intolerance then the cap fits on most Picklers.
    If you mean being a fanatic atheist, then it fits on some (not me).
    But if you are referring to general middle class bourgoise hypocrisy or to the idea that even the most holier-than-thou do-gooders have prejudices, then I don’t think it serves much of a purpose because that impacts the WWC as much as on the non-WWC. It’s also the reason why Dianne Abbott sent her son to private school.

  46. alan — on 21st April, 2007 at 11:07 am  

    Research suggesting a relationship between race and caste has been reported in main stream media.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17022912.000-written-in-blood.html

  47. El Cid — on 21st April, 2007 at 11:22 am  

    That’s very interesting Alan. It has prompted me to read up on the subject, although the date of the Aryan invasion is debated and could have been as little as 3,500 years ago: http://tinyurl.com/2ljhuj

    Some might see it as further evidence of white evil, but I would rather see it as evidence of the viciousness of those times.

  48. El Cid — on 21st April, 2007 at 11:29 am  

    Genetics and history go together like CCTV evidence and the criminal justice system. These are exciting times for the subject.
    I remember another recent study, which this time looked at how a few Anglo Saxons displaced the many native Celts/Britons: http://tinyurl.com/2grneq

    More fodder for the victimhood industry, perhaps. On the other hand, greater understanding means fewer bones of contention and makes closure more possible.

  49. El Cid — on 21st April, 2007 at 11:32 am  

    the above link should be:
    http://tinyurl.com/2brm59

  50. jailhouselawyer — on 21st April, 2007 at 1:18 pm  
  51. El Cid — on 21st April, 2007 at 2:25 pm  

    hmmm.. the decline of the nation state and the irregular march towards the star trek generation maybe something that we can work towards over the next couple of hundred years but your analysis is impractical, simplistic, and , I suspect, biased against your native land. Byeee

  52. sunray — on 21st April, 2007 at 5:48 pm  

    “Well, now we know that BBC television executives will sink to any depth to further their ratings.”
    “I will not tolerate people who abuse our comments policy.”

    “And kindly also accept you will have to maintain civil conversation here if you want to participate.”

    Sunny wrote all this?
    A new dawn on Pickled Politics.
    You’re not in hospital with a head injury are you? :)

  53. Kulvinder — on 22nd April, 2007 at 2:24 am  

    Research suggesting a relationship between race and caste has been reported in main stream media.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17022912.000-written-in-blood.html

    :thumbsup:
    Learn something everyday!

  54. G. Tingey — on 22nd April, 2007 at 11:36 am  

    Yes, you can’t be nasty about people’s RACE, but if you are a Dalit – well, foret it – wasn’t the word untermensch, or something like that?

  55. Ramiie — on 22nd April, 2007 at 4:44 pm  

    Afternoon Picklers!

    Apologies for being a little late with my response to El Cid’s puzzled ruminations ala liberalfascists – a concept that I have been advancing for some years now ( and for which I have been censored from the Guardian’s increasingly complacent and absurb Comment is Free site) I actually came up with this concept after deciding that it was what Joseph Conrad was struggling to define in his Novella Heart of Darkness – which dramatised the adventures of the English Colonialists in turn of the century Africa.

    Ideas about Britishness, decency, fair play, civilization have always been the battered figleaf used by the racist oppressors to hide their true intent and feelings. They spout on and on about live and let live, and all human beings are equal blah blah blah – but let a black man (figuratively) wolf whistle at the daughters and all hell breaks loose. Even Hollywood has examined this commonplace in films like Guess who is Coming to Dinner. In more recent times, I was intrigued to read that arch imperialist toady Sir VS Naipual has commented on the liberalfascist tendency.Describing (Shiva Naipual) his late borther’s left leaning principles, he commented (words to the effect) that “Shiva is always on about Africa this or that, but he would never go out with a black woman).

    In my view, Scratch many a liberal and you will find a racist; tug the conscience of a fascist and you may find a liberalfascist.

    This liberalfascist tendency enyoys an important place in the British class war.Many of you will agree that this war is interminable – the British having been conditioned to fear their royal family.In fact, I don’t believe that ordinary working or lower middle class whites with brains could love the monarchy. I accept that the white underlass is in awe of them and the upper, right leaning middle and aristos owe a lot to their existence. But there is no love. Buthow, I can hear you ask, does race fit in this diabolic mix? IMHO the upper middle and the working class rump have no need for Blacks..its just the left leaning middle class who do – they are the intelligentsia who understand the nature of the monarchy, its caste implications, and its they who feel keenly their own social inferiority. They would love a republic of course – not because they are particularly idealistic – their ambition is driven by self hate and social revenge. They see clearly, so they feel keenly.

    The condition of the black man is the ultimate weapon for that tenderhearted group to use (as a kind of blunderbuss) against the establishment and their boneheaded acolytes. But the black cause is totally expendable, and blacks are there to be used, not talk back or assert any sense of independent self in this class war. The tenderhearted middle class has already devised the role blacks must play, and for us to desist..well its an act of great treachery and betrayal. We must, after all, hate all the things they tenderhearted middle class hate..or we are just part of the problem. I could give so many examples of that phenomenon…just two years ago the Guardian newspaper was calling for the impeachement of Thabo Mbeki(he wouldn’t play ball); Look at how the French dealt with Thomas Sankara in Burkino Faso…look at the current demonisation of Mugabe, especialliy in liberal circles…need I go on?

  56. Chairwoman — on 22nd April, 2007 at 5:04 pm  

    Ramiie – I don’t intend to get into a long debate with anybody here today, but I must take issue with you on Mugabe.

    I am old enough to have been a supporter of Mugabe when he first came to power, but I find it impossible to see any good in a man who has allowed the life expectancy of the people he’s responsible for to fall so far, and who has a policy of destroying the poor shelters of the same people without giving them anything in their place.

    You have spoken of your African brothers, but surely supporting Mugabe can’t be helpful to them.

    There must be other Africans in Zimbabwe who can make a better life for the people who live there.

  57. ZinZin — on 22nd April, 2007 at 5:08 pm  

    Ramiie
    Your in no position to call anyone.
    And stop sending me those bastard emails.

  58. Ramiie — on 22nd April, 2007 at 5:12 pm  

    Chairwoman
    Like you – the only reports I hear about Mugabe’s so called dictatorship is what I get from the western press. You can believe it if you want..I am nobody’s sucker. It’s interesting to note that not even the Guardian has given Mugabe a right to reply. Surpised? Certainly not. Its a Liberal paper, after all.

  59. Chairwoman — on 22nd April, 2007 at 5:38 pm  

    Ramiie – I stopped taking The Guardian about 5 years ago, having taken it all my life as I discovered that reading it made me feel suicidal.

  60. Ramiie — on 22nd April, 2007 at 5:51 pm  

    Chairwoman – on this we are on the same wave lenght. I feel the Guardian ought to be denounced by Mandela, no less – for flaunting it’s hypocrisy with such a smirk…as if no one really cares, or matters.

  61. Rakhee — on 22nd April, 2007 at 11:09 pm  

    i was intrigued to hear what she had to say for herself in the immediate interview when she came out of the big brother house, but she simply wasn’t given hard questioning from Davina at all (don’t quote me but I believe its because they both had the same agent).

    This interview on BBC is going to be so pretentious. Jade will have been media trained to the hilt to answer all questions in such a way that will make her come out smelling of roses.

    Tsk.

  62. alan — on 22nd April, 2007 at 11:22 pm  

    Ramiee,

    Thirty years ago we referred to our teachers as ‘liberal fascists’.

    In the staff room they would read the Guardian, but in the classroom they would employ collective punishments if an offender could not be identified.

    I wish to defend this term from your encroachment.

  63. Robert — on 23rd April, 2007 at 12:54 am  

    You can believe it if you want..I am nobody’s sucker.

    Wrong. You are Mugabe’s sucker. Maybe his last.

    If you feel in need of a view of that country that has not been adulterated by the Guardian, try reading some independent Zimbabwean blogs. Then you will find that ordinary Zimbabweans are anti-Mugabe too.

  64. Ramiie — on 23rd April, 2007 at 7:46 am  

    Taking centre stage, the Ramster said his piece.

    Slowly, perceptibly, the room was suffused with the angry glow of a guilty silence.

  65. Ramiie — on 23rd April, 2007 at 7:57 am  

    alan..is smithee your second name, or are you seeking to perpetuate a fraud just for the hell of it?

    Robert..isn’t Zimbabwe a democracy? And if so shouldn’t it have a healthy,vocal,spiteful opposition?
    You ppl make me laff! You jump up and down for Zim to have democratic elections, and when it does, you call the popularly elected Govt a dictatorship… admit it, you just dont like who the people have chosen…but that is hardly new in the history of Europe’s baleful interference in modern Africa. Same thing is about to happen in South Africa. I am sure the liberalfascists who run the white left intelligensia have already put together a timetable to start (overtly) slandering the ANC. We will watch and see.

  66. Chairwoman — on 23rd April, 2007 at 8:10 am  

    You know Ramiie, not everything white is bad, evil, and manipulative. Similarly not everything black is the opposite.

    You appear to think that we all spend all our time thinking up ways to keep the black man down. I don’t think most people have the time to do that, let alone the inclination.

    As for Mugabe, while he most certainly was the people’s choice originally, I think that times have changed. Unfortunately so has he, and he doesn’t want to let anybody else play with his toys.

    You should take Robert’s advice and read the blogs he recommends. He is one of the most honest people on the blogosphere and will always support the oppressed.

  67. lithcol — on 23rd April, 2007 at 7:19 pm  

    Ramilie,
    We are about to see South Africa going the same way as Zimbabwe, towards a one party state. And no this whitey is not gloating, he his crying because Mandela’s dream and that of others is descending into criminal anarchy and corruption.

    The world cup in South Africa 2010, you are joking.

    I don’t depend on western sources for my views as to what is happening. Certainly not the Grauniad.

  68. Katy Newton — on 23rd April, 2007 at 8:10 pm  

    Taking centre stage, the Ramster said his piece.

    Slowly, perceptibly, the room was suffused with the angry glow of a guilty silence.

    Does the Ramster narrate his entire life in the third person? That must be irritating for the Ramster’s nearest and dearest.

  69. El Cid — on 24th April, 2007 at 9:58 am  

    Ramiie, I’m sorry bred’ren.
    It doesn’t work as a concept. It’s befuddled with inconsistency. It all sounds too much like option 3 in #45. I still think you’re twisted and need help. I also suspect that you have had it a lot easier than the bulk of the WWC. Granted, that’s speculation on my part. But I sense it.
    Sorry, I don’t think liberalfascist will go down in the annals of the history of philosphy much like, say, a Nietschean superman or a Platonic Ideal. Nah, I don’t think so.

    P.S. Have you actually read Heart of Darkness?

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