Why some America right-wingers are idiotic


by Sunny
20th April, 2007 at 11:16 am    


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  1. Kismet Hardy — on 20th April, 2007 at 11:38 am  

    Isn’t it tragic that whenever something horrific happens in America, the first thing you look for in the papers is to see whether the person responsible is Asian. My heart did skip when I read an Asian twat killed those kids and I’m ashamed to say I breathed a sigh of relief to see it was Chines Asian and not my kind. I have no excuses for this

  2. Chairwoman — on 20th April, 2007 at 11:55 am  

    Yeah, it’s the same here. You hope just hope that the twat with the vaguely Jewish sounding name isn’t.

    And breathe the sigh of relief.

  3. sonia — on 20th April, 2007 at 12:33 pm  

    “Isn’t it tragic that whenever something horrific happens in America, the first thing you look for in the papers is to see whether the person responsible is Asian”

    yeah – it’s pretty tragic to be that race-obsessed. my thought was how could any human do this sort of thing. i have to say it appears from the reporting/blogging on the incident that most of the people on the scene are so shocked that anyone could do soemthing like that, they are hardly focusing on ethnicity.

  4. Kismet Hardy — on 20th April, 2007 at 12:38 pm  

    I know Sonia. Thank god he wasn’t muslin I s’pose. It’s just that the dude (above) got me thinking

  5. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:12 pm  

    What a great bit of video, nice to see the commentators get so animated.

    I don’t think that it is fair to brand all american right wingers are idiotic because of this video any more than it is to say all Imam’s are after watching undercover Mosque.

    People are funny about ‘foreigners’ whereever you go in the world. When I was in Bali I was suprised to be told that should I be involved in any car / bike accident it would be my fault simply done to the logic: “it wouldn’t have happened if you weren’t here, because you are here it is your fault”.

    Does that mean that the entire population there is idiotic? I don’t think so, just a bit strange to me and my culture …

    TFI

  6. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:31 pm  

    his video any more than it is to say all Imam’s are after watching undercover Mosque.

    Except Bill O Reilly is no unknown commentator without any real reach… is he?

  7. Naxal 1849 — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:35 pm  

    Well, we don’t know what kind of ‘reach’ these Imams have.

    In any case, what do you expect from right-wing Americans Sunny?

    This is hardly anything new.

    One suspects that this was a slow news day for you.

  8. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:39 pm  

    That’s completely irrelavent Sunny, you cannot damn an entire group of people because of what one single person within that group says or does.

    Surely you must know this?

    TFI

  9. jailhouselawyer — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:43 pm  

    Very entertaining Sunny. It would certainly liven up our TV if we had ding dong battles like this.

  10. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:47 pm  

    One suspects that this was a slow news day for you.

    I disagree, I found it an interesting bit of video and I’m pleased that Sunny has bought it to my attention.

    I think that key point in it was when he started to shout: “ITS A SIN! A SIN!”

    Had Sunny entitled it: “Why America religious right-wingers are idiotic”

    I would have posted: “What you except from people that believe that DNA evidence should be used in court, but insist that we aren’t descended from Monkeys?”

    Its the religious nut job that wind me up, irrespective of what religion that they support.

    TFI

  11. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:50 pm  

    you cannot damn an entire group of people because of what one single person within that group says or does.

    I’m not sure you follow your own advice?

    However I’m not damning an entire nation, merely the cream of America’s rabid rightwingers. Bill O Reilly is near the top of the chain of America’s rightwing establishment, along with other demagogues like Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Horowitz (FrontpageMagazine) William Kristol etc etc.

    Well, we don’t know what kind of ‘reach’ these Imams have.

    But we know O’ Reilly has around 8 million or so listeners a week/month.

  12. Naxal 1849 — on 20th April, 2007 at 1:56 pm  

    “But we know O’ Reilly has around 8 million or so listeners a week/month.”

    Out of a population of 300 million.

  13. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 3:08 pm  

    However I’m not damning an entire nation, merely the cream of America’s rabid rightwingers.

    That’s not what it says on the tin of this post.

    Bill O Reilly is near the top of the chain of America’s rightwing establishment, along with other demagogues like Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Horowitz (FrontpageMagazine) William Kristol etc etc.

    I’ve no idea who these commentators are that you mention; after all I’m not an American living in America and I’m sure that should I become informed of their views, I would some of what they think objectionable.

    I’m not sure you follow your own advice?

    I do, it’s a matter of labels. I damn the group “Fundamentalist Christians” because they reject dinosaurs. I damn the group “Islamists” because they believe in barbaric capital punishments.

    So do you damn all American right-wingers, or do did you mess up on the title of this post?

    TFI

  14. Kismet Hardy — on 20th April, 2007 at 3:42 pm  

    All right-wingers are idiots because they believe what’s right for them has to be right for people they don’t know

  15. Naxal 1849 — on 20th April, 2007 at 3:48 pm  

    “All right-wingers are idiots because they believe what’s right for them has to be right for people they don’t know.”

    This way of thinking is not at all exclusive to right-wingers.

    In fact, your comment is a pretty stupid one.

  16. Robert — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:14 pm  

    Sunny: “But we know O’ Reilly has around 8 million or so listeners a week/month.”

    Naxal 1849: Out of a population of 300 million.

    Enough to swing a Presidential election, I’ll wager. Certainly enough to swing the vote on gun crime legislation.

  17. tfi — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:42 pm  

    kismit, what group doesn’t feel this way? you could argue that leftist politics think this way more than the right.

    Robert, was that a flippent comment for is there a point of you trying to make?

    TFI

  18. Clive Davis — on 20th April, 2007 at 4:52 pm  

    Your headline is a bit OTT, Sunny. Bill O’Reilly belongs to the windbag/bullying tendency – the polar opposite of someone like, say, George Will. And William Kristol is not many people’s idea of a demagogue either.

  19. William — on 20th April, 2007 at 5:01 pm  

    How is it that some people in the modern world still can’t understand the psychology of biased selectivity. Imputing cause onto that which is not a cause.

    Maybe O Reilly and others can’t differentiate between conditions and causes. OK if the guy wasn’t in the country there would not have been the incident (conditions). But that is still different from cause.
    Maybe then the confusion of causes and conditions enables the issue to by pass someones edge of awareness and it then connects with an inner prejudice of the foreigner. Bingo! unconscous racism which can be denied by a rationalisation.

  20. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 5:46 pm  

    Oh c’mon, a brother can’t even write a tabloidy headline these days?

    Clive, I take your point that Bill O’Reilly belongs to the windbag crew, but other than Andrew Sullivan, I struggle to find many huge American conservatives who draw attention in the way that O Reilly, Coulter, Malkin and David Horowitz do.

  21. inders — on 20th April, 2007 at 5:52 pm  

    i want my daughter knocked down by a good ol american drunk driver… not no stinkin’ ilegal immigrant drunk driver.

    Nice one bill.

  22. Sunny — on 20th April, 2007 at 6:08 pm  

    “I want the law enforced and you don’t” – Bill.

    This guy is pure parody. I wanna dig up that faux-ad in GTA San Andreas about immigration.

  23. The iLL Man — on 20th April, 2007 at 6:10 pm  

    Excellent clip. Maybe someone should do a youtube mock up of the two of them knocking the shit out of each other outside the studio…;D

    It’s good that Kismet makes the point he does. The left are just as guilty of shoving their ideals down peoples throats as the right are. As for the topic at hand, I lean towards Mr Geraldo’s position, O’Reilly’s logic is too simplistic and fallacious for me to take seriously.

  24. TheFriendlyInfidel — on 20th April, 2007 at 7:25 pm  

    “Law enforcement Bill”

    That’s a tabloidy headline.

    TFI

  25. Gibs — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:02 pm  

    I wonder what Bill O’Reilly’s reaction would have been to a “Muslim apostate illegal alien drunk driver” ?

    Would he praise him for apostasy or damn him for illegallity ???

  26. William — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:24 pm  

    inders

    “i want my daughter knocked down by a good ol american drunk driver… not no stinkin’ ilegal immigrant drunk driver.”

    Thanks for explaining in a much better way than I can #19. It makes me wonder why can’t I put it such simple terms. I worry about myself!!!

  27. Vikrant — on 20th April, 2007 at 9:25 pm  

    A nice post i found on the net:
    http://curiousgawker.blogspot.com/2007/04/perspectives.html

    The American Conservative Train:

    Hmm. could it be a terrorist attack? I wonder if the shooter was Muslim. Did the shooter selectively kill only Americans?

    They say he was Asian. Well, he could still be Islamic.

    So now the shooter was Korean. Do they have Muslims in Korea?

    Okay, so the shooter wasn’t a Muslim. But I am sure this episode showed the Islamic terrorists how easy it is to kill Americans.

    They say the killer was an immigrant student on an F-1 visa. Just like those terrorists on 9/11. Why are we letting these students into our country again?

    It’s now clear that he was not on an F-1 visa and actually grew up in the US. It still doesn’t invalidate the original point that we shouldn’t be letting these foreigners into our country.

    Hey, how about the Ismail Ax thing on his arm? Maybe we should continue to explore the Muslim angle.

    You know, the fundamental problem with this country is that more people do not own guns. If everyone were allowed to shoot everyone else, maybe less innocent people would be killed.

    The American Liberal Train :

    You know, the fundamental problem with this country is all those guns.

    Yes, this is a tragedy. But nothing compared to what’s happening in Iraq right now.

    I am sure Bush won’t waste a minute in running to the scene and giving a speech.

    Look look, there he goes.

    I wonder if he’s gonna somehow find a way to link the shooting with 9/11.

    The Indian Train :

    Hmm. It happened in a university. A place where there are many Indians. I wonder if any Indians died in the shooting.

    They say the shooter was Asian. Could he be…..Indian? I hope not.

    It appears that he was on an F1 visa. I bet the anti-immigration lobby seizes this opportunity to badmouth immigration and immigrants.

    So he was Korean. Are Americans smart enough to know the difference between India and Korea?

    I wonder how that Chinese-looking guy in my gym feels about all this. I wonder if people look at him differently wherever he goes now. God, I am sure glad the shooter wasn’t Indian.

    I really feel sad for all the Indians who died.

    The American Neocon Train:

    The Israeli professor who was killed in the shooting, threw himself at the gunman to save his students’ lives. On the other hand, the Palestinian student who filmed the killings on camera didn’t save any lives and compared the tragedy to the violence in the occupied territories. Just goes to show.

    The Chinese Train:

    You people like your guns way too much.

    The Rest of the World Train:

    Basically what the Chinese said. And also, such things would never happen in our country. Hunger, poverty, riots, crime yes. School shootings no.
    =======================================================

    Sorry to say this but Indian perzpective was exactly how I felt!

  28. pug hugs — on 21st April, 2007 at 12:54 am  

    i’m not sure that asian immediatly come to mind when i hear that something went wrong. i have found the only people with race issues are the ones within that race

  29. Nyrone — on 21st April, 2007 at 9:08 pm  

    Oh Bill, how I love to see you froth….
    I thought he was going to karate chop Geraldo’s head off…

    Sunny, here is another right-wing nut-case psycho to add to the list of crazies: Michael Reagan.

    here’s why…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz7SWm-xWo

    not sure if you’ve seen this already.

  30. G. Tingey — on 22nd April, 2007 at 11:44 am  

    Wait until the 2016 US elections – after 2 terms of Hilary C.

    The christian wingnuts will put up a rethuglican candidate, who will “win” as convincingly as the Shrub did in 2000 – it will be disputed, and there will be a convenient emergency.
    Styate of emergency, suspension of constitution and … “Gilead” (“The Handmaid’s Tale”))

    A delightful prospect, is it not?

  31. viet*namita — on 26th April, 2007 at 5:51 pm  

    Sunny,

    A few words from a (friendly – promise!) American lurker…

    O’Reilly is definitely more popular than any of the other right wing commentators you listed simply because he is a) on television and not solely in print and b) because he regularly makes controversial statements, he gets more press.

    But this sort of thing happens everywhere – but when it’s white vs. brown/black/yellow it becomes racial. What if an undocumented Bangladeshi immigrant committed a crime in West Bengal?

    The sad thing is that this particular crime hasn’t been widely publicized here in the States, maybe because of the VA Tech tragedy.

  32. Buria q — on 28th April, 2007 at 10:01 am  

    Um, yeah, thanks for “defending” folks me, TFI. O’Reilly doesn’t represent me in the slightest and Sunny did not imply that.

    ~Burs from NY

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