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    Islam Channel allows crackpots to make claims about rape; gets rapped


    by Sunny
    8th November, 2010 at 4:28 pm    

    The Guardian reports:

    In a programme first broadcast in April last year, Ofcom ruled that the Islam Channel host Nazreen Nawaz condoned marital rape when she said: “And really the idea that a woman cannot refuse her husband’s relations this is not strange to a Muslim because it is part of maintaining that strong marriage. But it shouldn’t be such a big problem where the man feels he has to force himself upon the woman.”

    The channel also broke the broadcasting code by encouraging violence against women, in a Q&A session on marital violence, and for labelling women who wore perfume “prostitutes”.

    If I remember correctly though, the presenter Nazreen Nawaz is a Hizb ut-Tahrir activist. I’m not surprised she makes the claim… it’s more worrying that the Islam Channel thinks its ok to make a Hizb ut-Tahrir activist a presenter.

    Well done to the Quilliam Foundation for making the complaint.
    Update: I incorrectly said they had been fined; have amended the headline now.


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    1. divideandrule — on 8th November, 2010 at 5:16 pm  

      The Quisling Foundation think ratting on other Muslims will save them from the Islamophobes… they are deluded.

    2. K.T. — on 8th November, 2010 at 6:32 pm  

      It is not “ratting” to make a complaint about incitement to commit rape or any other form of violence against women.

      Shame on you, divideandrule, for not speaking out agianst the practice of broadcasting approval for such vile acts.

      Men who rape should be locked up and the key thrown away.

    3. James B — on 8th November, 2010 at 6:50 pm  

      divideandrule - If it makes it easier for you to think about the issue, the Islam Channel presenters who have been busted by Ofcom were advocating the rape of Muslim women.

      How does that make you feel? Still reckon the ‘Quisling Foundation’ should have kept quiet about this one?

    4. Mark T — on 8th November, 2010 at 7:21 pm  

      The Quisling Foundation think ratting on other Muslims will save them from the Islamophobes

      If you are genuinely concerned about Islamophobia, may I suggest that you refrain in future from suggesting that Muslims should stick together to defend Muslims who advocate rape?

      A free tip.

    5. Ravi Naik — on 8th November, 2010 at 7:46 pm  

      Is Islam Channel a mainstream channel, or a Fox News like channel?

    6. Mark T — on 8th November, 2010 at 8:20 pm  

      Is Islam Channel a mainstream channel, or a Fox News like channel?

      The Islam Channel’s CEO is a convicted terrorist; it carried adverts for Al-Awlaki (and gave free downloads of his lectures!); it runs the “Global Peace and Unity” event, which notoriously invites crackpots and racists; and so on.

      Mainstream it is, then!

    7. joe90 — on 8th November, 2010 at 10:57 pm  

      So ofcom is doing its job fantastic move on.

    8. Sunny — on 9th November, 2010 at 1:14 am  

      As far as I’m aware - he is not a ‘convicted terrorist’ - unless you’re one of those nutjobs who takes the evidence and trumped-up charges of authoritarian regimes with lots of credence.

      The rest of the allegations I don’t know, other than that they organise the Global Peace & Unity event which does indeed feature crackpots.

      But then I happen to think Melanie Phillips is a crackpot, and she speaks quite freely in a lot of media. So, you know, swings and roundabouts.

    9. Andy H — on 9th November, 2010 at 6:59 am  

      I don’t care for Melanie Phillips either, but it’s hardly a fair comparison: for one thing - at least as far as I know - she’s never been hunted by Interpol…

    10. cjcjc — on 9th November, 2010 at 7:51 am  

      She’s hunted by Sunnypol though!

    11. Mark T — on 9th November, 2010 at 9:38 am  

      But then I happen to think Melanie Phillips is a crackpot, and she speaks quite freely in a lot of media. So, you know, swings and roundabouts.

      Pathetic.

      I don’t like Melanie Phillips at all - but as Andy points out, she is simply not in the same league as the Islam Channel and many of its presenters, who argue that women should not be allowed out of the house without their husbands, that if they wear perfume, they are prostitutes, and that they should work in gender-segregated environments.

      Is this really the equivalence you want to be making? Ali Harrath is a documented anti-semite and bigot, wanted by Interpol. And he was a leader of TIF, which - regardless of the brutality of the Tunisian authorities - is, and was, a violent jihadist organisation whose members have ties with al-Qaeda.

      And finally, I couldn’t find any lectures by one of the world’s most wanted men available for free download on Mad Mel’s website.

      Funny that.

    12. sofia — on 9th November, 2010 at 12:16 pm  

      Ravi in response to your question, I think IC us a channel a lot of families including mine watch on and off, moreso during Ramadan for its coverage of prayers in Mecca and during their coverage of Hajj.

    13. africana — on 9th November, 2010 at 4:16 pm  

      i would hazard a guess that the vast majority of people watching islam channel are not radical feminist separatists but, wait for it… muslims, for whom the views espoused are in accordance with their faith. i would say that a majority of muslim women agrre, albeit reluctantly in some cases, that, unless sexual congress would cause harm, either psychologically or physically, then needs must.
      i don’t think this view is entirely alien to wider society, either.

    14. earwicga — on 9th November, 2010 at 4:25 pm  

      africana - one doesn’t have to be a ‘radical feminist separatist’ to know rape is wrong. Please don’t pretend Muslims don’t have morals and aren’t feminists.

    15. earwicga — on 9th November, 2010 at 4:32 pm  

      Or indeed, lesbians.

    16. shamim — on 9th November, 2010 at 5:06 pm  

      11 markT

      melanie phillips is complete looney and in a league of her very own. She stated barak obama is a secret muslim, that the palestinians are a terrorist nation is that someone who is rational i don’t think so.

      As for islam channels Ali Harrath doing a quick google search on him suggest he already presented himself to authorities. The so called interpol red notice is 20 years old. When challenged in court the courts made following statement

      “the Magistrate at the court in Kempton Park today notified Mr Harrath that there are no grounds on which he should be held either now or in the future in relation to the (interpol)notice.”

      to generalize everyone on islam channel as a woman beater or terrorist is as shoddy as melanie phillips articles!

    17. Sarah AB — on 9th November, 2010 at 5:09 pm  

      I agree with earwicga - obviously there may be a need for compromise in this as in other aspects of marriage/life - but *rape* is a criminal offence, whether it’s in a marriage or not. It is most certainly not only radical feminist separatists who recognize that fact - otherwise the (comparatively recent) change to the law would never have got through the House of Lords.

    18. africana — on 9th November, 2010 at 6:54 pm  

      but i can’t imagine many muslim women subscribing to the view that, on those occasions where they were less than enthusisatic about sex, or felt emotionally brow beaten into it, that it equalled rape. i think it would have to be a rather more nasty an experience for a muslim woman to lodge a compalint of rape…and even then, you have the rampant mysoginy of the cps to contend with.

    19. Mark T — on 10th November, 2010 at 1:06 am  

      melanie phillips is complete looney

      She has some strange and unsubstantiated opinions certainly.

      and in a league of her very own.

      Nope. She has not been a member of a violent revolutionary group, Islamist or otherwise, nor has she propagated the material of hate preachers.

      Try again.

    20. joe90 — on 10th November, 2010 at 11:32 am  

      post #19

      defending Melanie phillps lol

    21. Mark T — on 11th November, 2010 at 10:40 am  

      You have strange and unsubstantiated opinions, Joe, and I don’t like you at all.

      But don’t get hostile, I’m just defending you.

      (See what I did there?)

    22. joe90 — on 11th November, 2010 at 1:48 pm  

      post #21

      no problem i think your totally weird but that’s your right also!

    23. Larry — on 13th November, 2010 at 5:46 pm  

      How on earth is Melanie Philips a looney for pointing out Obama’s dubious past?

      Has anyone actually seen his birth certificate yet?

    24. don — on 14th November, 2010 at 2:45 am  

      Larry
      “How on earth is Melanie Philips a looney for pointing out Obama’s dubious past?

      Has anyone actually seen his birth certificate yet?”

      Wow so possibly being a Muslim = dubious past

      and you call others loonies…..



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