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    Guido Fawkes’ pathetic attempt to smear Sadiq Khan


    by Sunny
    8th October, 2010 at 9:30 am    

    This is more an observation that needed to be written down somewhere. A couple of days ago right-wing loon Guido Fawkes said this in a blog-post about Sadiq Khan:

    With the rise of Red Ed, his most loyal follower looks set to be rewarded. His extremist views rule him out of the FCO, and quite extraordinarily, Labour are talking about putting another expenses cheat in the Home Office brief.

    Extremist views? So I actually bothered to follow the link. It said:

    Khan’s outspoken foreign policy views rule him out of the FCO or defence. In a message to Ed Miliband supporters during the campaign Khan said Britain needed to support “a more independent foreign policy”, the subtext of which is in line with his rant last year that the UK’s relationship with the US was “poison”.

    The “rant” turned out to be him pointing out that drone attacks on civilians in Pakistan was turning people against the US military. Shock horror! God forbid the UK might have its own foreign policy objectives independent of the US. Clearly the words of an extreeeeeemist! He’s brown, he’s Muslim: the E-word comes easy to smear merchants like P Staines.

    I only point this out because some of these things have a bad habit of becoming received wisdom without anyone know how it originated and from where. Now that Sadiq is elected to the shadow cabinet, I hope he gets a strong shadow portfolio like Home Affairs, Justice or even the FCO. Results our later today. The Labour Uncut site have tipped him as one to potentially replacing Ed as potential leader of the party. I’ll drink to that.

    Update: Sadiq Khan is rewarded with the post of shadow Lord Chancellor and justice secretary. He will also be responsible for shadowing Nick Clegg over his constitutional and political reform programme. Excellent stuff.


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    1. MaidMarian — on 8th October, 2010 at 9:34 am  

      I’m not a particular Ed Milliband fan, but this ‘Red Ed’ thing is pretty desperate. It is the sort of thing that might get traction in the media bubble but nowhere else.

      Fawkes tends not to realise that life exists outside of the bubble.

    2. Emily — on 8th October, 2010 at 10:16 am  

      The ‘fraud investigation’ stuff is nonsense too. I’m not sure Guido’s pets at the Sunlights Centre for Open Politics writing to the police constitutes an ‘investigation’.

      Interesting that there’s been nothing more said on this in the mainstream press since the initial report back in April, which in itself was a bit of a put-up job.

      Makes one wonder if it’s all just a load of bollocks and another smear attempt. Harry and Guido certainly seem to have an unusually personal dislike of Khan.

    3. Matey — on 8th October, 2010 at 10:17 am  

      I notice you don’t query his being an expenses cheat.

    4. Bluepaul — on 8th October, 2010 at 10:32 am  

      I do hope your right about Khan replacing Red Ed in 2015. He would easily beat Michael Foot’s record :)

    5. Sean — on 8th October, 2010 at 10:53 am  

      You cannot have a man who has said our relationship with America is ‘poision’ as a potential Foreign Secretary.

    6. BenSix — on 8th October, 2010 at 11:47 am  

      Yes, he might do something terrible like not help to cover up its torture…

    7. Roger — on 8th October, 2010 at 12:14 pm  

      God forbid the UK might have its own foreign policy objectives independent of the US.

      What an incredibly stupid comment. You mean Sadiq Khan’s own views, not UK foreign policy.

      Mr Khan was later forced to clarify that he believed Britain needed to “stand shoulder to shoulder with those who are fighting terrorism” including both the US and Pakistan.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/5145244/UK-should-distance-itself-from-US-drone-attacks-in-Pakistan-says-minister.html

    8. Sunny — on 8th October, 2010 at 2:05 pm  

      rather than mindlessly regurgitate his shit, why don’t some of you numpties actually try reading.

      Here’s what he said:

      “The anger and frustration at the drone attacks was huge,” Khan said. “The view they [the students] had was that the UK was somehow responsible for this. They haven’t understood this was purely a US matter. They lumped us together with the US, which to me is a poison. It demonstrates to me we have a big problem.”

      Let me know which bit you disagree with

    9. Kamal — on 8th October, 2010 at 2:36 pm  

      Anyone who doesn’t follow the extreme right zio-con agenda is an “extremist”

    10. boyo — on 8th October, 2010 at 2:43 pm  

      Thankfully, and rapidly, Yvette Cooper has come in to the frame as an alternative to Ed. Not that I particularly want one (despite voting for David) but because it’s good to know there’s a credible number two, if required.

    11. Sarah AB — on 8th October, 2010 at 3:12 pm  

      Sunny @8 - I find the word ‘poison’ a bit strong. The word ‘extremist’ also sems too strong though - at least if that link is the only evidence - and it seems reasonable to speculate that his religion makes him more likely to be described in that way.

    12. BenSix — on 8th October, 2010 at 3:57 pm  

      I find the word ‘poison’ a bit strong.

      Why? It is poisonous for us to be seen as inseparable from the United States. Partly ‘cos it’s a denial of national sovereignty and partly as it implicates us in the nasty stuff its government does. (That by and large the UK-U.S. have been inseparable just makes this rather worse!) Doesn’t mean it’s not a lovely country with fantastic people (and, of course, brilliant cable shows).

    13. Roger — on 8th October, 2010 at 4:20 pm  

      They haven’t understood this was purely a US matter.

      Ludicrous. The UK and the US are fighting together in Afghanistan. Intelligence information about threats emanating from Pakistan is routinely shared.

      Khan instead thinks foreign policy should be set according to the views of angry Pakistani students. People are plotting to attack the UK from Pakistan? Leave them alone! Yes, a very sensible policy.

      I love this:

      He’s brown, he’s Muslim: the E-word comes easy

      The trademark cheap, low, nasty and unsubstantiated smear from Sunny Hundal, the Asian Lee Jasper, with even less subtlety.

    14. BenSix — on 8th October, 2010 at 4:32 pm  

      I don’t think that a charge of bigotry should be thrown out sans proof, and none of us bear the key to Guido’s heart. (Or care enough to inquire.) It’s not improbable that Khan gets dubbed an “extremist” because he’s a Muslim, though. DMil chuntered - right or wrong - that terrorism could be justified and, yet, he’s never tarred with “extremist views“.

      Still, a quiet stroll through Guido’s comment section reveals that Khan should “strap a bomb to himself like his mates do“; “should be anywhere but here“; “is Taliban“; is “anti-British“; is “a security risk“…I think we should thank Guido for keeping these odd people off the streets.

    15. Iman Qureshi — on 8th October, 2010 at 6:10 pm  

      Surely Khan’s is exactly the kind of debate that should be going on - he seems to understand why there is such a backlash to US/UK foreign policy. It would be completely detrimental to marginalise such insight and label it “extremist”.

      If Guido Fawkes disagrees with Khan, then he should debate with a rational rebuttal, not inane jibes. I simply don’t understand how people can value the unfounded myths of such a scaremonger - is it prejudice? Ignorance? Dogmatism? “Noise”? All of the above?

    16. BenSix — on 8th October, 2010 at 6:20 pm  

      Iman -

      Typing YOU’RE AN EXTREMIST takes a coupl’a seconds. Saying “You’re wrong, because…” might be more effort. And he may be right!

    17. Stephen — on 8th October, 2010 at 6:52 pm  

      BenSix, you’re wrong because: Guido has a record of getting at politicians of red, yellow and blue hue, where there is perceived dishonesty and hypocrisy (not too hard really, unfortunately). Check out his past stuff on Hague, Spelman, Handcock etc. So is Mr Khan untouchable because he is “brown and muslim”? that would reinforce certain bigot’s views. He certainly seems to bend the rules on MP’s expenses and it would seem the security services have had an eye on him from time to time - so maybe it is not just smear?

    18. earwicga — on 8th October, 2010 at 7:06 pm  

      Stephen

      and it would seem the security services have had an eye on him [Khan] from time to time

      Evidence with link please.

    19. Ravi Naik — on 8th October, 2010 at 7:09 pm  

      Sunny - did you notice that in Guido’s post, Khan appears next to a poster which reads “X-Tream”? It can’t be a coincidence.

    20. BenSix — on 8th October, 2010 at 7:18 pm  

      Stephen -

      Of course he’s not untouchable and, no, I specifically said I didn’t know why Guido criticised him.

    21. earwicga — on 8th October, 2010 at 8:11 pm  

      Damn Ravi, you made me click into Guido’s post. Very clever to get a photo of Khan standing next to an X-Men poster saying ‘X-TREME’. Or was it photoshopped?

      What next - Khan is an X-Man shocker!

    22. earwicga — on 8th October, 2010 at 8:19 pm  

      Seems that that photo is a standard one which Guido uses on every Sadiq Khan post.

      There is a follow up post tonight with 5 ‘facts’ and some choice images:

      Sadiq Khan has somewhat controversially been made the Shadow Justice Secretary by Red Ed. He was also put in charge of constitutional and political reform, which is ironic. A relative unknown before his promotion there are all sorts of mysteries about the man that Guido feels need some light shedding on them…

      * Did you know that Khan has been exposed THREE times for fiddling his expenses, even after the public outcry last year? Using a thief to catch thief?
      * Did you know that five members of Khan’s family and various clients belonged to fundamentalist group Hizb ut-Tahrir? Something he called “irrelevant” and “trivial” Well they must be proud of his line of work…
      * Did you know Khan got the bent copper Ali Dizaei off the hook. He was later jailed in Wandsworth Prison, in Khan’s own constituency.
      * Did you know Khan tried to join the defence team of Zacarias Moussaoui, the only person convicted of the 9/11 attacks. The US government refused him clearance. As they did over a Guantanamo suspect’s trial. What do the Americans know about Khan?
      * Did you know Khan voted for post office closures at 7pm in Parliament and spoke out against closures at 8pm in a public meeting in his constituency? What was that about two faced lies…

      Come back next week for five more facts that raise serious questions about the new Labour leader’s judgement…

    23. blanco — on 9th October, 2010 at 5:34 pm  

      SK does bear a bit of resemblance to Cyclops, although in terms of height he’s closer to Wolverine. Those are big compliments!

    24. Shamit — on 10th October, 2010 at 1:04 pm  

      I don’t get Guido’s post. Its stupid and shows nothing but worst kind of stereotyping.

      But Sadiq Khan is wrong about foreign policy. Two days ago, former President of Pakistan acknowledged on international TV that Pakistan establishment helped establish terrorist organisations to work against India - including the LeT etc etc. He also admitted that Kargil was his doing and it was the right thing.

      Now, drones killed people who were contemplating Mumbai style attacks in Europe. I am not going to cry for them losing their lives. And they were plotting attacks in Germany and France - none of them have a big role in Afghanistan and none had a role in Iraq.

      And, lets be clear neither Obama or Cameron or anyone in any position of responsibility wants any civilian deaths - if Sadiq Khan has a problem with that he should not be in politics.

      I have seen some commentators here talking about change in foreign policy - fine. I accept that what should be our foreign policy folks?

      We are one of the largest provider of international aid - thanks to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown which is being carried on by David Cameron. We build more schools and hospitals and provide food to people who are hungry. We have been the only country in the world that keeps its word on international development. Unlike the Chinese whose aid is directly linked to their own benefits, UK aid is often unconditional except for better governance.

      Sadiq Khan is wrong about foreign policy so is Ed Miliband, in my opinion - infact the labour shadow cabinet is clearly divided over it. But that does not make anyone of them extremist - they have a different view and that is part of the political process.

      Sadiq khan was also an excellent civil rights lawyer so calling him names just makes Guido stupid. And as far some members of his family doing XYZ - why should he be held responsible?

    25. Shamit — on 10th October, 2010 at 1:53 pm  

      Excerpts from Sadiq Khan’s speech at the Fabian Society in 2006:

      “As the white working class felt a decline in status, the British National Party were able to exploit their discontent and distrust of authority ? in particular, the councils they see as being unwilling to respond to the community’s needs. The BNP are good at talking to the white community, sympathising with their problems and preying on their fears. Everything is blamed on the newcomers, and the BNP offer a solution ? to get rid of the people who are supposedly causing the problem. For them Britishness has nothing to do with residency and everything to do with roots.

      Some of these patterns are mirrored in poor Asian communities ? a profound unhappiness with mainstream political processes and disengagement with society. The disaffected young men who failed at school are now out of work. There are far too many young Muslims, disillusioned with British life, who feel that they are not given the chances of white British citizens ? that their own country has rejected them. But of course there are people who will listen and sympathise. HT and other offshoots talk about the decadence of Britain and how their version of Islam answers the problems. Using selective teachings of the prophet as a tool, they groom these young men to fight against Britishness in the name of Islam.

      Let me be quite clear. H-T quite deliberately have the same effect on race relations as their mirror image the BNP. They encourage hatred and their preaching is used by the BNP to foster fear of Islam.

      Just as the disadvantages are mirrored in both the host and minority communities ? so the answer is the same: serious policies to promote community adhesion within and between communities.

      We need a mission to unite our communities and to campaign for positive change”.

      —————-

      How can anyone call this guy extremist unless you are a nutter?

    26. John77 — on 10th October, 2010 at 5:51 pm  

      Is this about Paul Staines or about Sadiq Khan and Ed Miliband’s unwise decision to give Baroness Scotland the role of Shadow Attorney-General and Sadiq Khan the role of Shadow Justice Secretary?
      The decision to make Alan Johnson rather than one of the Ballses Shadow Chancellor was clearly intelligent (GO cannot blame AJ personally for the economic mess) but, while Sadiq Khan is under investigation for a criminal offence, to couple him with Baroness Scotland, who has been convicted, seems to hand the “Law and Order” flag over to the Tories, just after Cameron dropped that baton by making the very laid-back Ken Clarke Minister of Justice.

    27. John77 — on 10th October, 2010 at 6:02 pm  

      @ 25 Shamit
      Are Indians and Chinese not Asians?
      These two groups significantly outperform whites and other racial groups* in education and post-education economic performance. I believe that Jewish children also do so but ONS choose not to produce that data.
      *except Jews for which data is hidden

    28. Shamit — on 10th October, 2010 at 9:25 pm  

      John77

      Sadiq Khan said the following:

      “Some of these patterns are mirrored in poor Asian communities”

      Some poor Asian communities - not all Asian communities.

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