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		<title>By: Sunita Arora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunita Arora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

I was one of the investigators on Inside out. I asked for change for 20p for the phone. When I wore Indian clothes minus head scarf, I had a great response and people were lovely. As soon as I put on my chunni around my head, the reaction was like night and day. No eye contact, hands waved in my face to push me away, aggressive behaviour...scarf on..scarf off. Go figure! It took me aback and really upset me more than I thought, given that I knew it was a job. But many other issues came out of the programme. It tested all of our opinions and created a lot of passionate debate amongst ourselves. It also made the estate agents featured look at thier practices and that&#039;s a good thing surely.</description>
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<p>I was one of the investigators on Inside out. I asked for change for 20p for the phone. When I wore Indian clothes minus head scarf, I had a great response and people were lovely. As soon as I put on my chunni around my head, the reaction was like night and day. No eye contact, hands waved in my face to push me away, aggressive behaviour&#8230;scarf on..scarf off. Go figure! It took me aback and really upset me more than I thought, given that I knew it was a job. But many other issues came out of the programme. It tested all of our opinions and created a lot of passionate debate amongst ourselves. It also made the estate agents featured look at thier practices and that&#8217;s a good thing surely.</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-56154</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny,

&lt;b&gt; &quot;And until people like yourself and Amir, whose arrogance only confirms the hilarious attitudes that many still have on the right, understand the pain of the real people, then Iâ€™ll keep repeating it.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

I&#039;ve been racially abused on four occasions (thrice in Manchester, once in London); I know &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; too well what it feels like to have your humanity stripped bit-by-bit by a pack of skin-bigots or religious thugs. So don&#039;t you dare lecture me on &quot;understanding the pain&quot; of others. (Still, I&#039;m not going to wallow in the juices of my own self-pity... wouldn&#039;t want to imitate your journalistic style now would I?) For the sake of posterity, let me remind you and your loyal readers of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/967#comment-52040&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my&lt;/a&gt; response to the Jade Goody affair:

&lt;i&gt; The manner in which Jade and Co. have expressed their contempt for Shilpa Shetty is absolutely and unequivocally disgraceful.

Yes, it IS racist [*except* for the mimicking and caricaturing of her Indian accent, which would fall under the category of â€œcultural bigotry.â€]

But more importantly, it is a stark and sinister example of spitefulness and thuggish harrying. This, in my opinion, is more deserving of opprobrium than the hackneyed racist clichÃ©s. &lt;/i&gt;

Okay. So how did &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/966#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you&lt;/a&gt; respondâ€¦?

&lt;i&gt;[Shilpa Shetty] is also an actress who knows that crying on television, which she has to do every film, instantly brings you sympathy. Put two and two together people! Donâ€™t think there isnâ€™t an element of acting here. She has been paid over a Â£100 grand to star in the show. I think she can handle this.&lt;/i&gt;

Says it all really, doesnâ€™t it?

On this thread, in particular, none of you so-called â€œanti-racistsâ€ have answered my points directly. Instead, you choose to indulge in emotional blackmail and a stream of guttersnipe abuse and ad hominem insults. Typical. 

Iâ€™ve always believed in the cultivation and preservation of colour-blind institutions and I vehemently support the notion of a meritocratic economy. Anti-racist quangoes, in my opinion, have abandoned these principles; instead, they have begun to mirror the racial paranoia of white nationalists. 

To be totally honest Iâ€™m getting a little concerned about my own motives for reading your political blog; which, in my opinion, has reached the point of diminishing returns (no doubt itâ€™s the beautiful combo of Asian and Jewish women which keeps me here). Compared to the likes of &lt;a href=&quot;http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cranmer&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://timworstall.typepad.com/timworstall/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tim Worstall&lt;/a&gt;, and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://devilskitchen.me.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Devilâ€™s Kitchen&lt;/a&gt;, your intellect pales into insignificance (as does mine), and your views on race/culture/identity are out-of-touch with the majority of Britons. If you want any indication of where the Left (and Right) is headed in Britain and in Europe, I suggest you read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1682&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;. The last laugh is on you. ;-) 

Remember? I rejected multiculturalism when it was unfashionable to do so. Many of my closest comrades, at the time, thought it was a sure sign of kooky conspiracism, rampant xenophobia, and an unconscious fetish for Enoch Powell. Now it is YOU, not me, who looks increasingly deluded and out-of-touch with the British zeitgeist. On questions of race and national identity, I consider myself a â€œprogressiveâ€ and you a â€œreactionary.â€ ;-) 

[Note to Bannabrain: Thank you for the prescient advice. Iâ€™ll try to calm down.]  

Hugs and Kisses,
Amir</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny,</p>
<p><b> &#8220;And until people like yourself and Amir, whose arrogance only confirms the hilarious attitudes that many still have on the right, understand the pain of the real people, then Iâ€™ll keep repeating it.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been racially abused on four occasions (thrice in Manchester, once in London); I know <b>all</b> too well what it feels like to have your humanity stripped bit-by-bit by a pack of skin-bigots or religious thugs. So don&#8217;t you dare lecture me on &#8220;understanding the pain&#8221; of others. (Still, I&#8217;m not going to wallow in the juices of my own self-pity&#8230; wouldn&#8217;t want to imitate your journalistic style now would I?) For the sake of posterity, let me remind you and your loyal readers of <a href="http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/967#comment-52040" rel="nofollow">my</a> response to the Jade Goody affair:</p>
<p><i> The manner in which Jade and Co. have expressed their contempt for Shilpa Shetty is absolutely and unequivocally disgraceful.</p>
<p>Yes, it IS racist [*except* for the mimicking and caricaturing of her Indian accent, which would fall under the category of â€œcultural bigotry.â€]</p>
<p>But more importantly, it is a stark and sinister example of spitefulness and thuggish harrying. This, in my opinion, is more deserving of opprobrium than the hackneyed racist clichÃ©s. </i></p>
<p>Okay. So how did <a href="http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/966#comments" rel="nofollow">you</a> respondâ€¦?</p>
<p><i>[Shilpa Shetty] is also an actress who knows that crying on television, which she has to do every film, instantly brings you sympathy. Put two and two together people! Donâ€™t think there isnâ€™t an element of acting here. She has been paid over a Â£100 grand to star in the show. I think she can handle this.</i></p>
<p>Says it all really, doesnâ€™t it?</p>
<p>On this thread, in particular, none of you so-called â€œanti-racistsâ€ have answered my points directly. Instead, you choose to indulge in emotional blackmail and a stream of guttersnipe abuse and ad hominem insults. Typical. </p>
<p>Iâ€™ve always believed in the cultivation and preservation of colour-blind institutions and I vehemently support the notion of a meritocratic economy. Anti-racist quangoes, in my opinion, have abandoned these principles; instead, they have begun to mirror the racial paranoia of white nationalists. </p>
<p>To be totally honest Iâ€™m getting a little concerned about my own motives for reading your political blog; which, in my opinion, has reached the point of diminishing returns (no doubt itâ€™s the beautiful combo of Asian and Jewish women which keeps me here). Compared to the likes of <a href="http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Cranmer</a>, <a href="http://timworstall.typepad.com/timworstall/" rel="nofollow">Tim Worstall</a>, and the <a href="http://devilskitchen.me.uk/" rel="nofollow">Devilâ€™s Kitchen</a>, your intellect pales into insignificance (as does mine), and your views on race/culture/identity are out-of-touch with the majority of Britons. If you want any indication of where the Left (and Right) is headed in Britain and in Europe, I suggest you read <a href="http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1682" rel="nofollow">this</a>. The last laugh is on you. <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Remember? I rejected multiculturalism when it was unfashionable to do so. Many of my closest comrades, at the time, thought it was a sure sign of kooky conspiracism, rampant xenophobia, and an unconscious fetish for Enoch Powell. Now it is YOU, not me, who looks increasingly deluded and out-of-touch with the British zeitgeist. On questions of race and national identity, I consider myself a â€œprogressiveâ€ and you a â€œreactionary.â€ <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>[Note to Bannabrain: Thank you for the prescient advice. Iâ€™ll try to calm down.]  </p>
<p>Hugs and Kisses,<br />
Amir</p>
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		<title>By: Osama Saeed</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-56113</link>
		<dc:creator>Osama Saeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. My auntie actually took an estate agent in Glasgow to court and put them out of business because of their &quot;no Asians&quot; policy.

2. Well worth citing Dr Ludi Simpson&#039;s research at Manchester University about minorities moving into suburban &quot;white&quot; areas as soon as they are economically able.

3. Also worth noting that local authorities are still &quot;dumping&quot; new migrants in the same old areas. Would be interesting if they decided to branch out a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. My auntie actually took an estate agent in Glasgow to court and put them out of business because of their &#8220;no Asians&#8221; policy.</p>
<p>2. Well worth citing Dr Ludi Simpson&#8217;s research at Manchester University about minorities moving into suburban &#8220;white&#8221; areas as soon as they are economically able.</p>
<p>3. Also worth noting that local authorities are still &#8220;dumping&#8221; new migrants in the same old areas. Would be interesting if they decided to branch out a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not being testy, and apologies if it sounds like that. 

But I do get bemused when readers come here, like Amir, get all defensive when I point out white racism, but slap me on the back for pointing out brown racism. 

Both exist, I hate to point this out to everyone, and actually white racism is a bigger issue especially in institutions where people of other colours have no one willing to listen to their concerns.
Hence my annoyance at your &#039;why have you come IW all of a sudden&#039; reference. Islamophobia is a problem, as is anti-semitism, regardless of who other points it out. I cannot avoid talking about them.

&lt;i&gt;Sunny has a long way to go before he can call himself a true dinner party luvvie.&lt;/i&gt;

Bastid! And here I was eagerly awaiting my invitations :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not being testy, and apologies if it sounds like that. </p>
<p>But I do get bemused when readers come here, like Amir, get all defensive when I point out white racism, but slap me on the back for pointing out brown racism. </p>
<p>Both exist, I hate to point this out to everyone, and actually white racism is a bigger issue especially in institutions where people of other colours have no one willing to listen to their concerns.<br />
Hence my annoyance at your &#8216;why have you come IW all of a sudden&#8217; reference. Islamophobia is a problem, as is anti-semitism, regardless of who other points it out. I cannot avoid talking about them.</p>
<p><i>Sunny has a long way to go before he can call himself a true dinner party luvvie.</i></p>
<p>Bastid! And here I was eagerly awaiting my invitations <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny - I just don&#039;t get why you&#039;ve come over all... testy. But never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny &#8211; I just don&#8217;t get why you&#8217;ve come over all&#8230; testy. But never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Jagdeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jagdeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I am in 166% agreement with your observation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only 166%?  

&lt;blockquote&gt;but never mind. It would spoil the dinner party.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Too late for that Nick; the pheasent was awful today, and the quails eggs a little too tart for my taste. Sunny has a long way to go before he can call himself a true dinner party luvvie. 

Someone pass the brandy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I am in 166% agreement with your observation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only 166%?  </p>
<blockquote><p>but never mind. It would spoil the dinner party.</p></blockquote>
<p>Too late for that Nick; the pheasent was awful today, and the quails eggs a little too tart for my taste. Sunny has a long way to go before he can call himself a true dinner party luvvie. </p>
<p>Someone pass the brandy.</p>
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		<title>By: lithcol</title>
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		<dc:creator>lithcol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Sunny reveals his true mindset ( post  75 ).  I am sure that Kulvinder with his hardcore libertarian views will be mightily upset.
By the way I did not use the term â€œfuck offâ€ first, and I regarded it as mildly insulting when you told me to do so (post 26 ). Indeed I apologized for my use of the term â€œtosserâ€ in relation to Kulvinder (post 36 ).
 I should really have used the term â€œanarchistâ€ in relation to Kulvinders  world view.  He continuously uses the word statist, where I would  use the word society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Sunny reveals his true mindset ( post  75 ).  I am sure that Kulvinder with his hardcore libertarian views will be mightily upset.<br />
By the way I did not use the term â€œfuck offâ€ first, and I regarded it as mildly insulting when you told me to do so (post 26 ). Indeed I apologized for my use of the term â€œtosserâ€ in relation to Kulvinder (post 36 ).<br />
 I should really have used the term â€œanarchistâ€ in relation to Kulvinders  world view.  He continuously uses the word statist, where I would  use the word society.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;because I come here quite often, which was why I was surprised Sunny had come over all Islamophobia Watch all of a sudden - it seemed most out of character.&lt;/i&gt;

Why Nick, because you only expect me to bash fellow brown folk for their racism all the time? I&#039;m sorry if I gave you that mistaken impression but you really need to deal with it.

I&#039;m against any sort of bigotry and racism etc. Sometimes I highlight bigotry and stupidity amongst brown folks, sometimes within white folks. Sometimes with Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims and Jews, and sometimes with Christians.

I&#039;m not Islamophobia Watch but that doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t highlight instances of bigotry against Muslims. In other words I&#039;m not going to follow anyone else&#039;s agenda - only my own.

I hope that clarifies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>because I come here quite often, which was why I was surprised Sunny had come over all Islamophobia Watch all of a sudden &#8211; it seemed most out of character.</i></p>
<p>Why Nick, because you only expect me to bash fellow brown folk for their racism all the time? I&#8217;m sorry if I gave you that mistaken impression but you really need to deal with it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m against any sort of bigotry and racism etc. Sometimes I highlight bigotry and stupidity amongst brown folks, sometimes within white folks. Sometimes with Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims and Jews, and sometimes with Christians.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not Islamophobia Watch but that doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t highlight instances of bigotry against Muslims. In other words I&#8217;m not going to follow anyone else&#8217;s agenda &#8211; only my own.</p>
<p>I hope that clarifies.</p>
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		<title>By: Tasneem Khalil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasneem Khalil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;make tackling religious extremism, which is the real problem, even more difficult by demonising ordinary Muslims.&lt;/i&gt;

Exclusion and alienation. I am in 166% agreement with your observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>make tackling religious extremism, which is the real problem, even more difficult by demonising ordinary Muslims.</i></p>
<p>Exclusion and alienation. I am in 166% agreement with your observation.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Nick has a valid point in no. 75 which is often ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Nick has a valid point in no. 75 which is often ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bananabrain, I didn&#039;t bring up colour. That was the point of my original post - that &quot;whites&quot; had a right to feel agrieved too. Only here it seems that they are the only people without &quot;colour&quot; and therefore any right to feel anything. Which kind of reminds me of the snobbery that drives the white working class into the arms of REAL racists, but never mind. It would spoil the dinner party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bananabrain, I didn&#8217;t bring up colour. That was the point of my original post &#8211; that &#8220;whites&#8221; had a right to feel agrieved too. Only here it seems that they are the only people without &#8220;colour&#8221; and therefore any right to feel anything. Which kind of reminds me of the snobbery that drives the white working class into the arms of REAL racists, but never mind. It would spoil the dinner party.</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55982</link>
		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nick,

you said:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;What about the Jews for example, who have seen racist attacks rocket over the past few years - disproportionately out-weighing attacks on Muslims by far and increasingly carried out by non-whites. Or donâ€™t they count because they are white?&quot;

the syntax of your sentence suggests that you consider jews a &quot;white&quot; group. and just in the interests of clarity and plain english, could everyone please take note that since muslims can also be any colour, an attack on muslims or by muslims which is motivated by the fact that anyone concerned is muslim, is not a racist attack, but an attack motivated by *religious* prejudice - which is, of course, equally bad. NB: an anti-semitic attack can be characterised as either racist (as we are also an ethnic group) or motivated by religious prejudice - except, i suppose, technically, if it is a convert that is being attacked, but frankly i think that&#039;s why you need a special word for jews, i.e. anti-semitism. equally incidentally, we should also note that anti-semitism does not apply to &quot;semites&quot; in general, that being a linguistic fallacy manipulated for political ends.

b&#039;shalom

bananabrain&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nick,</p>
<p>you said:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;What about the Jews for example, who have seen racist attacks rocket over the past few years &#8211; disproportionately out-weighing attacks on Muslims by far and increasingly carried out by non-whites. Or donâ€™t they count because they are white?&#8221;</p>
<p>the syntax of your sentence suggests that you consider jews a &#8220;white&#8221; group. and just in the interests of clarity and plain english, could everyone please take note that since muslims can also be any colour, an attack on muslims or by muslims which is motivated by the fact that anyone concerned is muslim, is not a racist attack, but an attack motivated by *religious* prejudice &#8211; which is, of course, equally bad. NB: an anti-semitic attack can be characterised as either racist (as we are also an ethnic group) or motivated by religious prejudice &#8211; except, i suppose, technically, if it is a convert that is being attacked, but frankly i think that&#8217;s why you need a special word for jews, i.e. anti-semitism. equally incidentally, we should also note that anti-semitism does not apply to &#8220;semites&#8221; in general, that being a linguistic fallacy manipulated for political ends.</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
<p>bananabrain</i></p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas, was it not? Muslims meant to murder non-Muslims. If white (or black for that matter) youths beat a white Muslim to death because of identity, that is regarded as a racist/ religiously motivated crime. This hate crime was no different - and everyone here knows it, they just don&#039;t want to face it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas, was it not? Muslims meant to murder non-Muslims. If white (or black for that matter) youths beat a white Muslim to death because of identity, that is regarded as a racist/ religiously motivated crime. This hate crime was no different &#8211; and everyone here knows it, they just don&#8217;t want to face it.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55971</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

Either you are with us or against us. This was a silly remark:

&quot;Surely the ultimate racism was incinerating 52 Londoners on 7/7.&quot;

It was not racism, white people and brown people died. It was indiscriminate murder. It was a ridiculous act of nihlilism. It was stupid wee boys believing a fantasy. It was older people corrupting younger people. It was disgusting. Given the fact that they must have known that there were Muslims on that underground, it cannot be described as racism. Insanity, possibly.

I keep coming back to the fact that folk are willing to be led; it disgusts me. Muslims are not exempt from that criticism. They do seem to be easily led. Unto death. It is very, very stupid, and very, very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Either you are with us or against us. This was a silly remark:</p>
<p>&#8220;Surely the ultimate racism was incinerating 52 Londoners on 7/7.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was not racism, white people and brown people died. It was indiscriminate murder. It was a ridiculous act of nihlilism. It was stupid wee boys believing a fantasy. It was older people corrupting younger people. It was disgusting. Given the fact that they must have known that there were Muslims on that underground, it cannot be described as racism. Insanity, possibly.</p>
<p>I keep coming back to the fact that folk are willing to be led; it disgusts me. Muslims are not exempt from that criticism. They do seem to be easily led. Unto death. It is very, very stupid, and very, very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55921</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bananabrain - I&#039;M not the one who started the colour thing - that was my whole point, i thought it was pathetic. Personally i&#039;m olive-skinned, which could be due to my bit of Jewishness, or maybe the French bit. i don&#039;t care, but it seems that a lot of other people on this blog do... and what&#039;s there to calm down about? just because i&#039;ve critisised sunny doesn&#039;t justify the &quot;hysteric&quot; response of his defenders on this blog. In the space of an afternoon I&#039;ve been called an immature, hysteric, regressive twat by (i suspect) highly educated people for whom this passes as a kind of humour - enables them to let off steam maybe from their uptight real lives. it&#039;s quite sad really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bananabrain &#8211; I&#8217;M not the one who started the colour thing &#8211; that was my whole point, i thought it was pathetic. Personally i&#8217;m olive-skinned, which could be due to my bit of Jewishness, or maybe the French bit. i don&#8217;t care, but it seems that a lot of other people on this blog do&#8230; and what&#8217;s there to calm down about? just because i&#8217;ve critisised sunny doesn&#8217;t justify the &#8220;hysteric&#8221; response of his defenders on this blog. In the space of an afternoon I&#8217;ve been called an immature, hysteric, regressive twat by (i suspect) highly educated people for whom this passes as a kind of humour &#8211; enables them to let off steam maybe from their uptight real lives. it&#8217;s quite sad really.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55880</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>constantinople y sus constantinopolitanitos

bet you can say that! see ya later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>constantinople y sus constantinopolitanitos</p>
<p>bet you can say that! see ya later</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Preast</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55878</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert Preast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soy Benalmadenense.  Something even the natives can&#039;t pronounce when drunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soy Benalmadenense.  Something even the natives can&#8217;t pronounce when drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55877</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the almeria ripper?

i once had a goateee, but someone thought it would be funny to call me cunt face, so it came off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the almeria ripper?</p>
<p>i once had a goateee, but someone thought it would be funny to call me cunt face, so it came off</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55876</link>
		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds = sounding, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds = sounding, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Preast</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1014#comment-55875</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert Preast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any man here who doesn&#039;t wear a sinister goatee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any man here who doesn&#8217;t wear a sinister goatee?</p>
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