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		<title>By: PapaHomer</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1972</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaHomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Iraqi children will thank you&quot;

The million that died under the sanctions, or the ones that are alive now? I thought of you and stuck &#039;better the devil you know&#039; on too. Mmmmm Kylie..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Iraqi children will thank you&#8221;</p>
<p>The million that died under the sanctions, or the ones that are alive now? I thought of you and stuck &#8216;better the devil you know&#8217; on too. Mmmmm Kylie..</p>
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		<title>By: Bijna</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1964</link>
		<dc:creator>Bijna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UK banks ban piggy banks


British banks are banning piggy banks because they may offend some Muslims.

Halifax and NatWest banks have led the move to scrap the time-honoured symbol of saving from being given to children or used in their advertising, the Daily Express/Daily Star group reports here....

Salim Mulla, secretary of the Lancashire Council of Mosques, backed the bank move.

&quot;This is a sensitive issue and I think the banks are simply being courteous to their customers,&quot; he said.

However, the move brought accusations of political correctness gone mad from critics.

&quot;The next thing we will be banning Christmas trees and cribs and the logical result of that process is a bland uniformity,&quot; the Dean of Blackburn, Reverend Christopher Armstrong, said.

&quot;We should learn to celebrate our difference, not be fearful of them.&quot;

Khalid Mahmoud, the Labour MP for a Birmingham seat and one of four Muslim MPs in Britain, also criticised the piggy-bank ban.

&quot;We live in a multicultural society and the traditions and symbols of one community should not be obliterated just to accommodate another,&quot; Mr Mahmoud said.

&quot;I doubt many Muslims would be seriously offended by piggy banks.&quot;

Well, I hope not. But banned they are nevertheless: this must have been done to please someone.


http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008691.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UK banks ban piggy banks</p>
<p>British banks are banning piggy banks because they may offend some Muslims.</p>
<p>Halifax and NatWest banks have led the move to scrap the time-honoured symbol of saving from being given to children or used in their advertising, the Daily Express/Daily Star group reports here&#8230;.</p>
<p>Salim Mulla, secretary of the Lancashire Council of Mosques, backed the bank move.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a sensitive issue and I think the banks are simply being courteous to their customers,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>However, the move brought accusations of political correctness gone mad from critics.</p>
<p>&#8220;The next thing we will be banning Christmas trees and cribs and the logical result of that process is a bland uniformity,&#8221; the Dean of Blackburn, Reverend Christopher Armstrong, said.</p>
<p>&#8220;We should learn to celebrate our difference, not be fearful of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Khalid Mahmoud, the Labour MP for a Birmingham seat and one of four Muslim MPs in Britain, also criticised the piggy-bank ban.</p>
<p>&#8220;We live in a multicultural society and the traditions and symbols of one community should not be obliterated just to accommodate another,&#8221; Mr Mahmoud said.</p>
<p>&#8220;I doubt many Muslims would be seriously offended by piggy banks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I hope not. But banned they are nevertheless: this must have been done to please someone.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008691.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008691.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kulvinder</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1960</link>
		<dc:creator>Kulvinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Arab world has received billions from the West in unearned oil revenue&lt;/i&gt;

?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Arab world has received billions from the West in unearned oil revenue</i></p>
<p>?</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget to put a penny in the old karaoke for a bit of &#039;We are the World, We are the children&#039; stylee. Iraqi children will thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget to put a penny in the old karaoke for a bit of &#8216;We are the World, We are the children&#8217; stylee. Iraqi children will thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaHomer</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1953</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaHomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Conservative&#039; moi? You shouldn&#039;t presume too much Sid. Meanwhile, i&#039;m off to Moe&#039;s for a couple of cold one&#039;s. It&#039;s been fun :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Conservative&#8217; moi? You shouldn&#8217;t presume too much Sid. Meanwhile, i&#8217;m off to Moe&#8217;s for a couple of cold one&#8217;s. It&#8217;s been fun <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1952</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha. Since when did Conservatives worry about the welfare of starving kids in 3rd World countries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha. Since when did Conservatives worry about the welfare of starving kids in 3rd World countries?</p>
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		<title>By: PapaHomer</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1951</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaHomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for Iraqis? Yes i&#039;m sure those starving kids got a real kick out of all the tanks and anti-aircraft guns saddam spent the money on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Iraqis? Yes i&#8217;m sure those starving kids got a real kick out of all the tanks and anti-aircraft guns saddam spent the money on.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, excuse a cheap shot response here, but the Oil for Food Programme, despite its abuses, looks like it was much better for Iraqis than this war has turned out to be. Hindsight is 20-20 I agree, but here I am considering US national security. Of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, excuse a cheap shot response here, but the Oil for Food Programme, despite its abuses, looks like it was much better for Iraqis than this war has turned out to be. Hindsight is 20-20 I agree, but here I am considering US national security. Of course.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaHomer</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1949</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaHomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Calumny and greasing dictatorial thugs are OK if called for under the pstronage of State and with the pretext of career diplomacy. &quot;

That isn&#039;t what i said at all. in the context of the cold war, we cosied up to Saddam. In hindsight that was regrettable but probably necessary at the time. That is not the &#039;pretext of career diplomacy&#039; as you call it. It&#039;s the pretext of national security. And again, Rumsfeld was a representative of the US Gov, while GG was simply lining his pockets under the pretext of giving a shit about iraqi children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Calumny and greasing dictatorial thugs are OK if called for under the pstronage of State and with the pretext of career diplomacy. &#8221;</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t what i said at all. in the context of the cold war, we cosied up to Saddam. In hindsight that was regrettable but probably necessary at the time. That is not the &#8216;pretext of career diplomacy&#8217; as you call it. It&#8217;s the pretext of national security. And again, Rumsfeld was a representative of the US Gov, while GG was simply lining his pockets under the pretext of giving a shit about iraqi children.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a little bit of a sleight of hand going on in your argument there PapaHomer, which could certainly be mistaken for either or all of the below
1) Hypocricy
2) Bias
3) Selective Ahistoricality

Calumny and greasing dictatorial thugs are OK if called for under the pstronage of State and with the pretext of career diplomacy. Either way, its shameful and well you know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a little bit of a sleight of hand going on in your argument there PapaHomer, which could certainly be mistaken for either or all of the below<br />
1) Hypocricy<br />
2) Bias<br />
3) Selective Ahistoricality</p>
<p>Calumny and greasing dictatorial thugs are OK if called for under the pstronage of State and with the pretext of career diplomacy. Either way, its shameful and well you know it.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaHomer</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1944</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaHomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t ever recall saying Rumsfelds diplomacy was honorable? He was doing a job he was paid for by the US government. Is implementing it&#039;s foreign policy by cosying up to dictators honorable? It would certainly stick in my throat. But, was the pact with Stalin honorable? There are a few thousand souls haunting the Katyn forest that would disagree (and millions more elsewhere i&#039;m sure). Galloway wasn&#039;t performing diplomacy. He was neither a British or Iraqi diplomat. He is a british MP, one that (thankfully) would never get a position in any cabinet. His job is to look after his constituency...not take food out of the mouths of iraqi children (who he claimed to speak for) by shilling for the dictator who was oppressing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t ever recall saying Rumsfelds diplomacy was honorable? He was doing a job he was paid for by the US government. Is implementing it&#8217;s foreign policy by cosying up to dictators honorable? It would certainly stick in my throat. But, was the pact with Stalin honorable? There are a few thousand souls haunting the Katyn forest that would disagree (and millions more elsewhere i&#8217;m sure). Galloway wasn&#8217;t performing diplomacy. He was neither a British or Iraqi diplomat. He is a british MP, one that (thankfully) would never get a position in any cabinet. His job is to look after his constituency&#8230;not take food out of the mouths of iraqi children (who he claimed to speak for) by shilling for the dictator who was oppressing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1943</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mind that oil slick Daffy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mind that oil slick Daffy.</p>
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		<title>By: PapaHomer</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>PapaHomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quack quack :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quack quack <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also why is Rumsfeld&#039;s diplomacy honourable and Galloways&#039;s treachorous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also why is Rumsfeld&#8217;s diplomacy honourable and Galloways&#8217;s treachorous?</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/101#comment-1939</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Next youâ€™ll be telling me weâ€™re there to steal the oil.. &lt;/i&gt;

Well if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Next youâ€™ll be telling me weâ€™re there to steal the oil.. </i></p>
<p>Well if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PapaHomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>PapaHomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. You&#039;re biased because you refuse to the see the obvious parallels between roosevelt meeting stalin and rumsfeld meeting saddam.  It was a marriage of convenience as we were in the middle of the cold war. All states practice that kind of diplomacy.  It might be an interesting bit of history but it has no bearing on current events.  Bringing up rumsfelds visit to saddam is &#039;weak&#039; Sid. Next you&#039;ll be telling me we&#039;re there to steal the oil..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. You&#8217;re biased because you refuse to the see the obvious parallels between roosevelt meeting stalin and rumsfeld meeting saddam.  It was a marriage of convenience as we were in the middle of the cold war. All states practice that kind of diplomacy.  It might be an interesting bit of history but it has no bearing on current events.  Bringing up rumsfelds visit to saddam is &#8216;weak&#8217; Sid. Next you&#8217;ll be telling me we&#8217;re there to steal the oil..</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bandar = monkey, usually in a playful manner.

PapaHomer - well al-qaeda is not a tight and well organised group, as we all very well know. Anyone who think its a strongly organised group is being naive.

So my point is, there have always been plenty of AQ supporters over the years. But like any terror organisation, it does not get support unless there is a conflict going on. Then it can convince people that in the &quot;war on terror&quot;, where you are either with GW Bush, or against him, that the people from AQ are doing something right.

What I&#039;m saying is, many more become brainwashed into believing that in this global conflict they should support AQ against the Americans. That is the problem. Without that, it would easier to isolate AQ, expose them for who they are, and pull the carpet from under their feet. 
In Algeria for example, a while back, the Islamists went overboard with their campaign and public support completely dissolved and the govt cracked down hard. The same is hard to do with AQ while they keep exploiting (and making worse) the conflict in Iraq. Not for the vast majority of Muslims, but the few who do get brainwashed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bandar = monkey, usually in a playful manner.</p>
<p>PapaHomer &#8211; well al-qaeda is not a tight and well organised group, as we all very well know. Anyone who think its a strongly organised group is being naive.</p>
<p>So my point is, there have always been plenty of AQ supporters over the years. But like any terror organisation, it does not get support unless there is a conflict going on. Then it can convince people that in the &#8220;war on terror&#8221;, where you are either with GW Bush, or against him, that the people from AQ are doing something right.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is, many more become brainwashed into believing that in this global conflict they should support AQ against the Americans. That is the problem. Without that, it would easier to isolate AQ, expose them for who they are, and pull the carpet from under their feet.<br />
In Algeria for example, a while back, the Islamists went overboard with their campaign and public support completely dissolved and the govt cracked down hard. The same is hard to do with AQ while they keep exploiting (and making worse) the conflict in Iraq. Not for the vast majority of Muslims, but the few who do get brainwashed.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drink soaked effeminate monkies?

Hey, I didn&#039;t say that Sunny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drink soaked effeminate monkies?</p>
<p>Hey, I didn&#8217;t say that Sunny!</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m biased because the history books don&#039;t follow your Roosevelt analogy? Thats a bit weak, excuse me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m biased because the history books don&#8217;t follow your Roosevelt analogy? Thats a bit weak, excuse me.</p>
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		<title>By: shihab</title>
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		<dc:creator>shihab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bandar is what muslims called efininate people

no, it&#039;s a monkey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bandar is what muslims called efininate people</p>
<p>no, it&#8217;s a monkey</p>
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